Jesus, lol"Ok, let's pass the initial setup and then I can go anywhere."
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PSVR Review Thread
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InaudibleWhispa
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He was sitting, according to Dan, 7-8 feet away. That's within Sony's recommendations (9.8 feet max). That may very well be the issue, but they didn't set it up wrong. It obviously has a tighter range for "good tracking" than Sony is recommending.
Nikodemos
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Then again, a lot of people have a lot of shitty over-bright lighting in their homes as well, like those fuck-awful halogen floodlamps as spot illumination.
Remember that visual noise (bright lights, bright colours) considerably decrease the camera's tracking range.
Jeff was too far away form the camera obviously. Brad had it right later when he was closer, it worked very well. This is a grounded opinion.
No, Brad had problems too.
If anything it makes more sense to review them on a 100 point scale because there is very little subjectivity involved. At least less than software.
EDIT: On topic, the thing is looking a lot better than I had anticipated.
fixed for accuracy
Jeff was too far away form the camera obviously. Brad had it right later when he was closer, it worked very well. This is a grounded opinion.
Obviously. It's not as if they are setting this up for the first time and getting used to it or anything. Or perhaps the thing just has issues. That would just make too much sense, you know? Unless you have your hands on one and know better!
Also, I just tuned in again to see them laughing their asses off. So jaded.
bananafactory
Banned
Nice to hear a favourable comparison to Oculus, 'fractionally' better. PSVR is pretty much half the price of it here so this makes me feel better about compromising due to cost
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
True. For those that don't already have a PC I would say wait 5-10 years for the SNES era of VR to start. We are in C64 era right now.
The tracking looks vomit inducing. We will see how it goes when it is out in the wild, but I predict a lot of "Why is PSVR making me sick?" threads that come down to the camera not being up to snuff compared to Oculus and HTC/Valve.
Reading through the RoadToVR review they seem very positive about it.
What is criticized is the worse tracking quality than Rift or Vive and the bad camera alignment instructions.
What is criticized is the worse tracking quality than Rift or Vive and the bad camera alignment instructions.
No he didn't not on th stream, the only issue he seemed to have was his batman belt being crazy high as he was sitting down.
boredandlazy
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Confirmation Bias - The Thread.
Gipsy Danger
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However they are also being paid by "INSERT CORPORATION HERE" when they are talking about the console I don't own.
zackmorris
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But at his home he said he had a ton of problems with games being unplayable
RichiRamjag
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I honestly didn't see anything out of the ordinary when he was using it outside of the belt thing. Please note I missed the Jeff segment.
I wasn't planning on buying straight away, so I guess I'll wait to see how things pan out.
Blackleg-sanji1
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You know what this sums it up nicelyConfirmation Bias - The Thread.
bananafactory
Banned
Confirmation Bias - The Thread.
Yep. It's a review thread alright. Same shit every time, people will hear what they want to
FarFromAnyGame
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Not sure if serious.
GitarooMan
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I really want to see Battlezone. That's one of the games people have mentioned as being nausea-inducing.
Yes he did, he literally said that it was going okay, and then when he said that it went wrong. He commented on that.
bananafactory
Banned
Sorry if this is a dumb question but what's the difference between positional and rotational tracking?
panda-zebra
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OléGunner;219134321 said:
Looking at the image of GB's setup with the greenscreen and the simulated version posted by the GAFer above, they don't seem to have taken the time and care to set up correctly.
The PSVR FAQ states "with the user in VR sitting about 5 feet in front of the PlayStation Camera / TV" - compare the images, I'd estimate the difference between the two images of Jeff to be -more- than the distance to the camera.
I think rather than take the time to set up correctly it looks more like they've gone for what worked for them before using Vive or whatever - a room-scale VR device. They also re-checked the manual and quoted the "9.8 feet" thing - that is in fact the very limit of the PSVR play area when sat 5 feet from the camera, not a limit of where you can plonk yourself and expect it to work well.
"9.8ft max" is incorrect - 5 feet is ideal and 9.8ft is the absolute limit of the play area when you're sat 5ft away.
Sony space recommendation is confusing. They say the play space can 9.8ft, but the player must be at 5ft distance
On that stream? Hmmm I didn't hear him say that and everything he did seemed to track very well.
Looks fine. It's just determining the best color light to use in the room.
OrbitalBeard
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Confirmation Bias - The Thread.
So basically Every Review Thread: The Thread
Krisprolls
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People get so personal about GB. It's like they have cult followers. I'm sorry I don't worship them as much.
There are dozens of positive reviews 8+ and 9+. Am I supposed to ignore them because GB said so ? Okay, I guess.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
What is a joke about what I said? In 5-10 years VR will have matured and found its killer apps. The prices of the headsets on PC will have come down to affordable levels and the quality will have jumped pretty high. Look at all of my past comments on VR.
I have consistently said that mainstream VR is ~10 years away. I think it will also be a google daydream like device as well (wireless).
Leafhopper
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Not sure what you expected. Not like because it was on the Playstation, the games wouldn't be any less experimental experiences and what not. Especially not this early.
Also not sure why people are getting so mad at Giant Bomb when they are just trying out hardware.
get2sammyb
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I haven't watched the Giant Bomb video -- I'm sure they're not talking through their arses. But they do seem to be a bit of an outlier.
All I can say is that I've used this thing for a week and I've been very impressed with it. It's definitely not perfect, but I've used worse first-generation products than this.
I linked it earlier, but I'll link it again. My full impressions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTJSaViuPc
Also some unedited gameplay I've just uploaded...
Batman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wJo9zzVuBU
Headmaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nroWc43r-ZY
All I can say is that I've used this thing for a week and I've been very impressed with it. It's definitely not perfect, but I've used worse first-generation products than this.
I linked it earlier, but I'll link it again. My full impressions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTJSaViuPc
Also some unedited gameplay I've just uploaded...
Batman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wJo9zzVuBU
Headmaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nroWc43r-ZY
Positional tracking is the position in absolute space. When you move your head or controller up or lean left, right or forward for example.
Rotational tracking is the position of the tracked device on its own axis. Turning your head to look left or turning the controller in your wrist like unlocking a lock.
It's just amusing when all of the 8+ or 9+ reviews aren't ignored, but GB (one of the most well respect game critics according to GAF) criticizes it so they must be jaded or doing it wrong.
He said when leaning forward and backward the whole world was sliding around.
Gipsy Danger
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No but calling GB assholes because they don't agree with your pre-conceived opinion seems a tad overreacting.
boredandlazy
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Yeah, but this seems even more predictable than usual to me for some reason.
bananafactory
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Thanks for the impressions. What's your favourite game so far? I probably won't jump on this until Resident Evil 7 is out but I'm curious what the standouts are for now
They said they both had these issues at home. The stream looked AWFUL.
Primethius
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God, the GB fans vs. non-GB fan wank war is probably worse then the review war thread shit.
TheMan
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Yeah I guess you're right. Might hold off on that purchase indefinitely
Then I guess you weren't listening.
Yautja_Warrior
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Problem with reviewing tech like this, is there are so many variables with things like lighting, position of the camera and even how good the game is. So any problems some have had, are not always going to be the hardware's fault, plus if the hardware was really bad, all the reviewers would be having issues with it, no just a few of them.
Basically PSVR is not perfect but when setup correctly, it offers a pretty decent VR experience, especially for the price and most of the games seem decent so far, even if there is no true killer app right now, overall it seems mostly pretty positive though.
Basically PSVR is not perfect but when setup correctly, it offers a pretty decent VR experience, especially for the price and most of the games seem decent so far, even if there is no true killer app right now, overall it seems mostly pretty positive though.
I believe they are referring to the Move and headset. Rotational is when you look around in the world. Positional is where you are and your actions - like grabbing something with the Move.
I mean, when they have video proof, you don't have to ignore it. They're not LYING about the jitter.
And it's kinda ironic they'd be the cultish ones considering they get death threats from Sony fans when they aren't 100% positive with their products.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I didn't know who giant bomb was until today. Seeing the absolute trust and protection vs the haha jaded assholes crowd is interesting at the same time incredibly sad