I thought there was more too that, or at least another talk where he might have brought it up?
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I thought there was more too that, or at least another talk where he might have brought it up?
Pokemaniac
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Why are you even bringing Intel into this discussion? They haven't shown any signs of becoming more agreeable to console style license terms.
You mean the same Nintendo that provided full BC (including digital) for free on Wii U, 3DS, Wii, DS, and GBA?
Fourth Storm
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Hmm, so are we thinking Puma+ perhaps or betting the farm on Zen?
Well, they did with the Wiiu...
You could just put your old Wii disc....
... or you could buy em (some of em) on the eshop
Davey Cakes
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Meanwhile I completely fucking forgot about those patents.Guys, idea: the "Supplementary" processing units from the patent will actually come next gen, as an upgrade to keep NX parity with PS5/XB2
I wonder if NX will utilize "supplementary processing units" in the end.
They did for Wii discs in Wii U, and Gamecube discs in Wii, and DS carts in 3DS, and GBA carts in DS...
I've said already what my beef was and looking at some threads/post on the net not just here is why I laid that nugget of info. Where else should I put this considering how active the subject is? I even said sorry for how that generalization came off a few posts back.
Most nintendo supporters here I'm sure are happy, that's good morale will be need for E3. Yet I can see other camps just doing what they did on WiiU.
I don't agree with indiechick at all on the SDK/Ports. Then again as I'm telling you no one knows, Anyone with a very up to date SDK knows not to talk. When you can have the disparity that nintendo causes then you can have rumor variations like this. When a big company talks or makes a real effort I will go back on my expectations but I'm agnostic as a gamer and want companies to perform good instead of like ass.
cartographer
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Nintendo threads never fail to deliver.
I think LCgeek wants Nintendo to take it a bit further and up the anti a bit more before release.
If we're better the farm, let's just throw up our hands on Zen+Polaris.
Oh I have no problem. You are just delivering to use more info than we'd expected and its... more than what we expected. A lot of us have, for the longest time, been operating under the assumption that the NX was going to be in between the X1 and PS4 in all ways and the CPU was a bit ??? expected to be lower clocked than you seem to indicate. If its also not a cat family microarch, then we have even more info to digest in terms of expectations.
This also seems to line up with the indiegamergirl rumor at least in terms of specs. As for E3... we'll see what comes of that.
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cyberheater
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Maybe. It depends on how long Nintendo plans to have the NX out and if they plan to roll iterative systems every 3-4 years. If they make good on a plan to have a family of devices with quicker hardware releases like iPads and such, then it's a good thing. if they plan to sell this thing at $400 and want it to last 5+ years then... no.
The same Nintendo that lets you put Wii games into your Wii U and play them for free? The same Nintendo that let you put your Gamecube games into your Wii and play them for free? The same Nintendo that let you put your DS carts into your 3DS and play them for free?
Shut the fuck up with your drivel.
You're trying to sound negative but I'm actually loving what I'm hearing. I don't think you should be mad that Nintendo isn't putting out a mid ranged PC since those are $600+. What I want to ask you is, do you think Nintendo is putting in as much power as possible at $399 and breaking even?
And the jump from 3DS to n3DS was far bigger than what anyone expected on the CPU front.
darkinstinct
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Yes, but WiiU was also rumoured to be faster than 360 and easy to port to and we know how that turned out.
I was thinking about that, the PS4K keeps Sony from releasing a new console for a while but from what I've read Microsoft isn't too into the idea of an XB1.5. An Xbox 2 could easily come out in the next 2 years, i'm sure Microsoft want to do something sooner than 4 years and the hype from that console can possibly fuck Nintendo over with a huge leap in graphics and new console hype. Just something I've been worried about.
This could equally screw Microsoft.
* Worlds of possibilities open up if it's that's true. Would go along the rumor saying that AMD would be making chips for a big corp.
* Cloud saves? I say YES!
* This makes me think of Wii U Gamepad compatibility...
* A part of me earlier imagined that PS4 and XB1 would work on NX but that's not the case LOL. I'm so dumby sometimes. Anyway, Having an easy to get 3rd party on-baord for cheap would be good for NX.
* Pretty much don't care bout this except for my account's security.
* That was a given. Really.
With a bit of hesitation when Thomas Mahler went and said that he was thinking/heard it would be much less powerful than XB1.
Best thing they did was have playing software unlock points they can use to purchase more software. That is a no-brainer. They should do that for all games, Sony and Microsoft.
Would be a huge win for the industry. More games played, more new games purchased, more interaction with the digital store, etc. It doesn't even have to be much money, and they could throw in avatars, etc. Seriously. How this hasn't been done yet is insane.
Would be a huge win for the industry. More games played, more new games purchased, more interaction with the digital store, etc. It doesn't even have to be much money, and they could throw in avatars, etc. Seriously. How this hasn't been done yet is insane.
AcademicSaucer
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The additional gamecubes come with the duct tape required.
That's true. 2x more cores 4x more CPU speed than any other iteration they've ever done before. I never at all expected it. I just imagined it would have been something much lighter.
wild wild rice
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If this thing is as strong as PS4 then that far surpasses my expectations.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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I think a big issue is the price of software. When a new console launches, the price of the games usually stays closer to RRP for longer, and when releasing mid-gen that price disparity seems even worse. I recall several ports I hadn't yet played that I considered picking up on the Wii U, but the price was always higher than on other systems. The ports didn't sell and support dried up.
At some point I also think the pricing of first party titles needs to be addressed too.
Gotdatmoney
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I think his point is no devs are gonna look at the NX specs and feel compelled to put effort in there. That's an issue given 3 years later hardware wise you would think they would be excited for something new.
Personally its nintendo so I expected it would be awful and 1/2 between a 360 and an X1 because they dont give a shit. But it shouldnt be hard to outpace the PS4/X1 using bog standard of the shelf parts.
He also said it was going to be a handheld no? In that case, well...it's obvious it's much less powerful than Xbox One.
Points well taken. I was rather ignorant, and I apologise.
I assumed that should they be posting on English speaking forums, they'd be from English speaking backgrounds. Leaks have come from non-English speaking countries before, and we've been tasked with translating.
Pokemaniac
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I'm still thinking A72 or some other ARM chip. I'm not particularly convinced of the guy in the OP, especially after one of the people vouching for them started claiming the WSJ was wrong.
It takes time for me to type on my phone. Though, fun fact, it's actually generally speculated that the SNES was originally intended to be BC with the NES due to their fairly similar CPUs.
Christ gaffers I'm neutral bros, you see polairty I see chaos, comprende.
This is wrong and I'm one of the few here that put there 3570 setup originally together for 534$. That's me if nintendo can't figure out how to do half of that power 2 years later with much better tech access that's pathetic if they are going to charge 350-450$ for NX.
I don't see zen being affordable by this holiday for Nintendo. Puma+ was always my theory.
But in both those cases, the old hardware was apart of the new hardware. If the x86 cpu thing is true, then no HW BC this time. It could certainly show up later as software BC.
Duct Tape? Pffft. It's proprietary ToadTape® at 3x the cost and you will like it.
The cost of purchasing, assembling, and marketing hardware for a company isn't really the same as someone from home though? It's almost like asking why a government runs a deficit when a home budget is balanced.
no. you were mistaken - should have feared me more.
You're not taking into account the new innovative donut screen controller concept that will make $400 sound like a bargain
Zen and Polaris are much more feasible for Nintendo, of all people, because they are not mid-gen (upgrading GCN generations would be a nightmare) and have potentially low demand on their hands. Of course I don't expect this but I also don't think Puma+ is where they'd go.
That 800 MHz Polaris DX11 part from the PS4k rumors threads might be making more sense now...
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