Ancel is a liar if he puts it on such weaksauce hardware.
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Rumor: BG&E2: Odyssey is a Switch timed exclusive (12 months, then PS4/XB1/PC)
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Ancel is a liar if he puts it on such weaksauce hardware.
RubberJohnny
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Don't Ubi have like 10,000 staff that constantly rotate between projects? Good luck finding a leaker within that.
I disagree. If this were true the Wii, Wii U, Kinect, PlayStation Move, and now VR would have been massive successes for emergent types of game design. They weren't. Yes, a few games showed unique ideas or worked well in spite of their platform, but it didn't lead to new types of games.
The reason we don't see games with new vision happens for one reason and one reason only: risk aversion. Making a game in 2016 is risky business whether you are Ubisoft or a lone indie developer. With a shrinking market, extremely long development cycles, and the ever increasing demand for bigger, louder, more impressive games, it works best to develop something that already has an audience that will keep you in business. OR something that has already been proven to be successful in terms of design in order to save precious resources making your own design systems, physics, lighting, art direction, etc.
It has nothing to do with developers lacking options. It has everything to do with them wanting to stay in business. (and it still sucks)
Meanwhilst Street Fighter V did wonders for the PS4 and saved Capcom.
Edit: Also you know... No one is begrudgingly Sony for Shenmue 3.
Diablohead
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12 months from now I would expect more delayed releases to not have a retail box, it sucks but I expect that kind of thing now.
wild wild rice
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Exactly.
Really? Because Ubisoft is probably the leakiest company I can think of.
They asked for it to be closed because it was a tweet with no blog link.
I believe the poster is saying it's hard to pin who is leaking info.
Chobel
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Either it's low budget title (unlike what Ancel claims) or some people at Ubisoft and/or Nintendo made a huge mistake lol
Even more reason why this deal is dumb, no?
Even more reason why this deal is dumb, no?
She has multiple sources, at least one at Nintendo too.
AquaWateria
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I'm happy this game is actually happening. I'll definitely get it on Switch.
As for the people complaining well suck it up. You should be happy its even coming out
As for the people complaining well suck it up. You should be happy its even coming out
Depending on the source and the relevance, that's not necessarily an issue.
This thread is also still open as it presents major information from a credible source:
http://neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1319055&page=1
JonnyDBrit
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And spread across the planet. Unless there are rules against in-house studios and other staff talking to each other, her sources could be anywhere from Singapore to Montreal.
Cyborg
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It did not! You are right. Sony (PS4) didnt need a win to be honest. Nintendo needs succes with this and I doubt BGE2 will do anything for the console
Soulblighter31
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Sure, the risk aversion is valid and the most important point. But my point remains - even if they would want to take risks, traditional consoles, since those are the ones you mentioned, would be the last place where you'd find game changers in gameplay. Because of the traditional sticks that only allow this much.
Cardon
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Gotcha. I guess that makes sense in the end. Here's hoping the game is solid, and that it doesn't end up DOA when it arrives on the PS4/X1 similar to what occurred with Rise of The Tomb Raider.
Eolz
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Leaker is a job now?
The timed exclusivity too? My bad then.
Oh no, I agree that people at Ubisoft are way too careless in the first place. Already creating problems for Ubisoft.
But there is a difference when it goes public.
I work in the games industry. I can assure you this is not something as breaking as you might think.
Games being leaked is sadly nothing new, but business deals is another problem and usually problematic both for companies and employees until the real message is out. I can assure you the guy talking about the exclusivity deal in the first place never worked on this.
Really??
People hoping for the Switch to have a good reveal event so it's not a flop, and others hoping for leaks to not cause issues when it's about business deals.
But yeah, I guess I should probably do some basic reaction like everyone and leave this thread.
SFV was on PC day 1 and Shenmue 3 will be too. Also, there were plenty of people disappointed that SFV did not come to the bone.
The Bayonetta 2 deal was made before the Wii U was released and made Bayonetta 2, which otherwise would have never happened, possible.
Not that confusing if you read.
Aah, right!
Why let it release on the other platform at all then? Was is that difficult for Nintendo to secure Ubisoft support they had to take such a deal? I don't know.
I just hope the game ends up being good. On Switch it should do alright. On the other platforms it will have to compete with bigger competition though.
I imagine it'd be more like Rise of the Tomb Raider where there are 5000 people every thread who are very interested in posting how they're totally excited for buying this game on (Platform X) 12 months later.
docyoe
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A game being a low budget title doesn't mean it'sgonna be shit....see Recore or Talos Principle. The term AA does exist.
Paying a third party company to make a game a timed exclusive for your system? Nintendo do some dumb moves from time to time but this one is among the smart ones.
And for Ubisoft to receive cash for a game that has a high chance to bomb? Yeah that's smart too.
A fiasco created by Ubisoft, maybe they won't repeat the same mistake?
Castef
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Mmmh... not very comparable. SFV is not a timed exclusive.
More like a Rise of the Tomb Raider situation here.
lol, come on man...have some faith.
I'm uh... sorry? Those other consoles you love don't really tend to get many exclusive titles in 2016 either, particularly from 3rd parties and especially from Ubisoft.
Also, why are we buying Zelda on Wii U now? I thought that was supposed to be the inferior version?
Yes. This thing that happens all the time in 2016 on every other console and works just fine. What a dumb move.
Poooor Nintendo
Primethius
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BGE2 is happening? Sounds good to me.
I don't mind waiting a year to play unless Switch turns out to be far more enticing then it currently sounds.
I don't mind waiting a year to play unless Switch turns out to be far more enticing then it currently sounds.
UnemployedVillain
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A game being digital only doesn't mean it's low budget
DriftingSpirit
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The only people who would consider the event a flop because of leaks are a vocal minority on Gaf. The majority outside of Gaf will have no clue about these leaks.
funkystudent
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Can't remember the last time a 3rd party exclusive deal worked out well for anyone.
DriftingSpirit
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lol
Mass_Pincup
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The fact that this rule has been enforced recently is so dumb. It's a rule that is ignorant of how useful of a source twitter can be. Verified sources leak information and break stories on twitter all the time. This isn't even exclusive to video games. In the sports world some of the best insiders, like Adam Schefter, break stories on twitter. It would be very ironic for a site like neogaf, which is known for having its own insiders post leaks and info in threads, to close a thread just because it doesn't have a "real website" as a source. Obviously there needs to be a line for what kind of tweet is thread worthy but a tweet from a pretty well known leaker who has some history with the subject should be good.
What's next. No more threads about YouTube videos? Did you guys know that anyone can make a YouTube video?
Also the meltdowns in this thread are kind of hilarious. It's Bayonetta 2 all over again. We should just be glad that BGE2 is happening. I wonder if Nintendo has any involvement with making the game happen at all
This is me with every Rockstar game, where the hell is RDR!
Glad Nintendo is keeping up with partnering with 3rd parties, I really want to see Bayonetta 3 and this gives me some hope that it will happen.
Cyborg
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I agree.
I feel this is just a waste of resources (for Nintendo) and money (for Ubi) to make such a deal. I fear this will do nothing for mainstream gamers, BG&E isnt a game a lot of people know.
What exactly is the criteria for a 3rd party exclusive? There have been plenty of games made by third parties that are exclusive to a single platform that have performed well.
Nintendo has shown that they don't really care about their 3rd party deals to work well. Just look at W101, Bayo 2, FF and Devil's Third. They care more about trying to provide an image of diversity in portfolio.
Why?
Just for the numberwang listing of "exclusives" to "justify" buying said console?
Really imo - as a nintendo fan for over two decades - this kind of thinking is nonsensical to me. I think games should be in as many places as possible when concerning third parties and even "2nd parties" simply to reach as many people as possible and benefit the fans / devs / publishers and even increase the return possible from projects. The development of these games are so high at this point that it isn't remotely feasible to have full exclusivity to such titles indefinitely anymore bar a minority. That minority is almost always no where near enough to justify me buying any system, let alone a Nintendo one. A game being on another platform has absolutely no bearing on whether I buy a system or not.
What sells Nintendo systems to me, is Nintendo games and the system itself, its features, capabilities and usefulness as well as how that can change gameplay to be more fun and interesting. Wonderful101, Bayonetta and even all the Nintendo games was not enough to get me to buy a WiiU (someone who has bought every other system since NES, bar 3DS and WiiU). Nintendo's feature set has been outmatched by other platforms and I'd rather play games that are on said other platform for better features and longevity and often in turn better gameplay because of it. A handful of paid for third party exclusives will not be enough.
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