SEGAvangelist
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Considering it's a big issue for them, I'd imagine they wouldn't wait for the other changes to implement this.
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Rumor: Entire party system on XB1 being replaced, "may take up to a year
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Considering it's a big issue for them, I'd imagine they wouldn't wait for the other changes to implement this.
Uncle Rupee
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They should also make it so Kinect doesn't think a standing lamp is a person.
famousmortimer
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I actually haven't received a single hate-tweet since the day after the xbox one was released... when everyone realized I didn't make that shit up.
Or they fixed it?
-They've got a ton of other fixes to do that actively interferes with the system itself that takes priority.
-To do a system level OS feature like this, while games are coming out, is going to take a lot of work. A LOT of work. Imagine working on a party system where the game will invite players via the OS, just like the 360, and working on it before the console is released. That way you don't have to worry about backwards compatibility, because the games aren't out yet.
Now imagine the games are out, and more games will be coming out. You not only have to implement a system wide OS feature that works with all past and present games, but strip out a party system that's already implemented without breaking said games.
This is not a bandaid patch. This is serious stuff that needs to be done. And at the moment it probably won't take priority until they finish some major other bugs that need to be addressed first.
FunkyPajamas
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Holy fucking shit. Wow. This is honestly PS3-launch levels of WTF.
Dude your original article had all kinds of Shit it in it that turned out to not be true. You really should consider stopping posting info you can't verify yourself as you admittedly have no idea whether it's true or not. I mean really what's the point?
polyh3dron
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this is but one component of the
ASS STORM
ASS STORM
Being large doesn't mean you work fast. If anything it often means the opposite.
As a ray of sunshine, I'll just mention Julie Larson-Green announced the end of stack ranking, which should make things more harmonious. I don't know how long it will take to undo the damage that that system did to the culture of that company though.
I'd like to see a female CEO at MS.
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Deleted member 47027
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There is no such thing as an ass storm.
SomethingInTheSea
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Don't forget as well that MS has traditionally believed in big updates infrequently rather than sony's release new features as they're ready one at a time. They'll probably call it a dashboard update, and I don't believe they've ever released more than two a year of those.
Bungie has built their own party systems into their games since Halo 2. Destiny will be a non issue since the Destiny UI will be doing all of the party/invite work.
Alx
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I'm not a big user of the party system (actually I never use it), but I don't see how this is a big deal. The current system may be a flawed placeholder, but as far as I know it's functional. People are acting like Xbox owners will have to wait one year to party chat... Or maybe I am missing something ?
What was right? I stopped following all that so I dunno. lol
Such as? The vast majority of it was true, and FamousMortimer actually has the best accuracy level of all our insiders. But I suppose when you don't like what he has to say, you'd automatically not want him to say anything at all, despite the vast majority of it being accurate.
FunkyPajamas
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Ass Hurricane? Ass Tornado? Ass Tsunami?
KernelPanic
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Sounds like Xbox One Service Pack 1
Really? Keep this shit out of here.
Only the first sentence of that paragraph is about the party system; the rest is complaining about lack of detail in the friends list. I'm not sure what online notifications (something missing on ps4 too) has to do with the party system being broken either
The party system is a step back from the 360 in many ways, but it's a stretch to call it broken. A future replacement is both obvious and a good thing; I don't know why anyone would construe this as bad news
Up to a year, and possibly that just means it depends on when it's finished relative to the next scheduled update.
That it was even a problem in the first place, after it worked the way most seemed perfectly happy with on the 360, speaks to the fundamental disconnect in design and architecture that is probably what contributes to the lengthy estimates. They're essentially going back to the drawing board.
You mean how the party feature crashes when switching from game to game and the whole snapping feature is crashy...really? 100% untrue
Not having feature parity with the 360 may be true but that is a whole different thing...but whatever; you were right
maquiladora
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COD Ghosts 720p on XBO.
Dee Dah Dave
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I would love Albert and his gang to explain why we have this new party system in the first place, it's crap.
Still it seems they are going to do something about it. I can't see it taking a year though, although perhaps retro fitting the new system with already released games might be an issue.
Still it seems they are going to do something about it. I can't see it taking a year though, although perhaps retro fitting the new system with already released games might be an issue.
Thank you. A bit of common sense. It's like Mortimer, Vulcan, and Nib did not play COD on PS3 last gen. Was activision completely worried that a party system wasn't in place prior to release. No, not at all.
Vicetrailia
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It's pretty amazing to see that MS doesn't understand the point of nailing these things the first time around. Maybe it's the rush, but now they get to spend tons of money doing all of this work. Amazing, amazing, amazing.
And yet part of the uproar was him saying the problems would last months after release. Reporting rumors about bugs in beta is just dumb, imo. The whole point of betas is to squash bugs.
Yeah your right, asked a mod to change it to RUMOR instead of his name.
RamzaIsCool
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How do you know that?
famousmortimer
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To be clear, I don't construe it as bad news and, in fact, end my article praising the move.
Sorry, I meant some of the posts in this thread not your article. The only bad news IMO is it might take a long time for a fix
While it would be nice to point to stack ranking as the cause of the massive drop-off in quality between Xbox 360 and Xbone, my gut feeling is that it can't be entirely responsible for how poor a product Xbone is.
It really is bullshit
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The party feature is fine, it's just a completely different thing from what parties were on 360. Different definition. You join a party, it works with what you're playing with your friends to get you gaming together. It's a lot quieter, it's not a direct communication. The way I use it is, say, with BF4 - I join up with my buddy and if we're both playing (but don't want to put on mics and talk) we just match up in games and we're there, casual-like. It's just different. They shouldn't have called it a party.
SEGAvangelist
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famousmortimer
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Holy shit with the snap stuff.
Please pull the quote from the article where I talked about Snap. I'd love to read it.
I don't expect people to just take everything i say at face value but atleast make sure you know what I wrote and what I didn't before you go accusing me (or, more importantly to me, my source) of being wrong.
Yeah, and now he insists he was right. smh
So you deny replying to Thuway's rumors about snap being broken and saying, "Yeah, I heard those things too"?
GAF doesn't usually allow promotion of one's own website and blog. So someone else has to do it.
It also doesn't allow posting unverified rumours as an insider, which is the point. When he can't verify something to GAF standards, he just posts it there and someone else posts it here. It's a backdoor past the rules. If he believes it, why not back it up instead of doing an end around?
You co-signed everything they said as being legitimate and basically the same stuff you were hearing from your sources:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88177595&postcount=812
I'm not doubting what you're saying here because it not only sounds plausible, because as you said, it's the right move to make - but if you're going to play this insider game - you really need to take your lumps when you're wrong. It's not the end of the world, just roll with the punches and move on. People will respect you more for it.
Gorki247
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Or maybe they were too busy playing their games instead. Did you miss the attention and is this why you decided to publish another story?
Like it or not, but the party system is working exactly as they designed it. Was the old system better? Yes, but that doesn't mean the current implementation is broken. That would indicate technical failures, which isn't the case.
Quality comment.
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Gonna go with Mort on this one. Not only does this sound like something MS would do, but...dammit Mort prophecized Parappa 3 being a thing. Bless that man.
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