R3TRODYCE
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Rumor: Entire party system on XB1 being replaced, "may take up to a year
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Oh snap.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I don't know what the problem is with the party system? I can go into a party with my brother from BF4, switch to any app and then switch to Killer Instinct and go back to BF4 while in the same party.
So what is wrong or broken with it?
So what is wrong or broken with it?
BronsonLee
Member
I see the usual suspects are in here attempting to discredit/defend...
Come on, guys.
Sad it's busted, happy it's getting a complete overhaul. Microsoft may have taken it on the chin, but they're on the ball way quicker than Sony was in the early PS3 days
Come on, guys.
Sad it's busted, happy it's getting a complete overhaul. Microsoft may have taken it on the chin, but they're on the ball way quicker than Sony was in the early PS3 days
You do construe it as bad news though by stating that Destiny and Titanfall will "require party systems for teamwork." Uh no.
Backfoggen
Banned
Major Nelson already confirmed they're working on it. No need for more of this GAF insider rodeo.
I thought he was verified? He should be anyways.
If a mod has a problem with the thread or the sources, they'll close it.
Seriously mods lock this thread
The originator of the information has been shown to have been wrong on everything to do with this issue...he wasn't allowed to post the original information on neogaf for a reason because its hearsay's hearsay and there is no corroborating information
Lock it
The originator of the information has been shown to have been wrong on everything to do with this issue...he wasn't allowed to post the original information on neogaf for a reason because its hearsay's hearsay and there is no corroborating information
Lock it
Dreams-Visions
Member
well that sucks, but at least it's going to be addressed. it's a marathon, not a sprint. Do what you have to do to fix it as soon as possible and the next 5-7 years will be better.
oconnomiyaki
Member
The party system isn't that bad and the amount of whinging about it is actually kind of tragic.
Oh no, you join a party and have to push an extra button to be able to talk to people. The sky is falling.
Oh no, you join a party and have to push an extra button to be able to talk to people. The sky is falling.
rokkerkory
Member
So let's take what worked well and mess it up. Sure sounds like some geniuses at work there.
BruiserBear
Banned
Yeah, that sounds a bit extreme. I would think Microsoft might be targeting a date like March 11th for a lot of this stuff, as that's when Titanfall arrives.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
It begins.
Neuromancer
Member
And people accuse Famous Mortimer of never having positive Xbox One news!
Titanfall will be a major game for them, so I wouldn't be suprised if thier aim is to roll out the party chat system in time. Just a hunch though.
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Deleted member 47027
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This thread is going places
I cannot hold all of these quality comments
It's also what happened with Windows 8, and why I still use Windows 7 on my PC instead.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Some people have had more issues than others, but most people I know who use it coupled with the general impressions and posts of people who are using it on this forum regularly don't seem to indicate that everyone is having serious issues with it other than the inconvenience of occasional spottiness with party chat turning itself off/refusing to turn on/preventing seamless party migration from game to game every time. Those are the biggest issues with party chat, but it's really not broken so much as it is buggy depending on game and scenario. I've had instances of it turning off party chat or making jumping from game to game, keeping the party of friends together, a bit stop-start and in one case, preventing matching though that may be limited to the third party game I was playing at the time instead. Most of the time I've personally used it had no problems, though. Issues need to be addressed and improved, certainly, but far from busted, IME.
Did I miss something where mortimer was banned from posting info? (That's an actual question, not being snarky here.)
Prince Vultan
Banned
Ha ha! Backseat modded! ;D
Probs for the best.
Nope. I think he just tends to run stuff by the mods before posting it now(I think).
SEGAvangelist
Member
You co-signed everything they said as being legitimate and basically the same stuff you were hearing from your sources:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88177595&postcount=812
I'm not doubting what you're saying here because it not only sounds plausible, because as you said, it's the right move to make - but if you're going to play this insider game - you really need to take your lumps when you're wrong. It's not the end of the world, just roll with the punches and move on. People will respect you more for it.
Oh snap.
Ricerocket
Member
Nice thread whining and backseat modding. He wasn't wrong on everything, the party system is game by game basis like said and IPv6 is having issues for sure.
Captain Tuttle
Member
What a debacle
I doubt it would take a year though
I doubt it would take a year though
looks like we are using skype LOL
famousmortimer
Banned
You co-signed everything they said as being legitimate and basically the same stuff you were hearing from your sources:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88177595&postcount=812
I'm not doubting what you're saying here because it not only sounds plausible, but as you said, the right move to make - but if you're going to play this insider game - you really need to take your lumps when you're wrong. It's not the end of the world, just roll with the punches and move on. People will respect you more for it.
For fuck's sake how many times do I have to explain this.
Thuway makes a bunch of tweets with info he got in a PM from CBoaT. I know this because I got the EXACT same PM from CBoaT.
Now let's break down my tweet:
"For the record... everything @thuway is tweeting right now is what I heard as well."
TRUE! Because I got the PMs from CBoaT.
"So either verification... or we have the same sources."
We have the same source. It's CBoaT. SO THAT MEANS IM NOT VERIFYING IT. It's verification ***OR*** we have the same sources. It was the latter.
I did pass on, in that thread - which, mind you, was after it was proven that snap was NOT broken, i said that I had heard it was but never posted it because it didn't seem like a big deal to me.
I've been wrong about multiple things this year if you guys want to nail me on something.... it's there. But this isn't one of them.
Fuck I need some sleep.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
The salt floweth.
Can Crusher
Banned
What a weird step back.
How do game developers even work on software that utilizes this functionality in the meantime? I mean, even if they have this change out before Titanfall wouldn't they need to have an appropriate API in hand soon, if not now, for this to be properly coded into the game?
If the VoIP implementation is currently handled by the game itself, do the devs take a leap of faith and not work on their own implementation relying on MS to have all of this done in time to not impact the game's release schedule - or do they expend resources on their own solution that may turn out to be wasted effort if MS does get it done in time?
If the VoIP implementation is currently handled by the game itself, do the devs take a leap of faith and not work on their own implementation relying on MS to have all of this done in time to not impact the game's release schedule - or do they expend resources on their own solution that may turn out to be wasted effort if MS does get it done in time?
Yeah, let's get all our MS info just from Major Nelson.
WolfForager
Member
Christ, the amount of salt from certain individuals in here is hilarious.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
probably him pulling something out of his ass
hahah
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Somehow I think I've seen this movie before.
More like this was a rushed OS and this was the plan all along. This wasn't high on Microsoft's Honey Do List prior to launch.
Neuromancer
Member
Nope and we probably never will. Bish said cboat didn't have enough sources on it and thought that whatever it was could be fixed by launch.
OMG !!! That is horrible.
Glorified G
Member
Can you point all "all kinds of shit" that turned out not to be true. Add some substance to your post. It's easy to point out all the stuff he got wrong without actually backing it up.
Multiple sources have to verify or the poster will be banned. Again, show how everything to do with this issue has been wrong on Mort's port. Seems like you're desperately white knighting and trying to backseat mod instead of providing substance to your accusations
Backfoggen
Banned
Yeah let's twist what I said weirdly to make some sort of point.
The voip implementation is not handled by the game...but it is game knowing (party is based around a game, knows the name of the game, and what game inside the game the person is in)...they can just swap in a different version If you have used the xboxone software you know that everything is designed to be updated independently so they don't have the issues that the 360 had where large parts of the system are permanent and unable to be changed
You co-signed everything they said as being legitimate and basically the same stuff you were hearing from your sources:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88177595&postcount=812
I'm not doubting what you're saying here because it not only sounds plausible, because as you said, it's the right move to make - but if you're going to play this insider game - you really need to take your lumps when you're wrong. It's not the end of the world, just roll with the punches and move on. People will respect you more for it.
Oh dear
I thought I remembered him saying that snap was an issue, but couldn't remember the exact quotes. While I enjoy ps4s ui a little better for ease of use at the moment, I have had zero issues with snap since I gotthe system day 1.
Then why do you continue to post shit when you know it's entirely possible that you could be getting bad info?
famousmortimer
Banned
Nope, just another person not understanding the info.
When i wrote my original article I talked to Bish to verify some of the info because, as im sure you guys know, Bish knows stuff (hence all of his talk about going into the bunker). After that conversation, which will remain private (but I assure you it went just fine) I asked if I should post it here or on my site just in case he didn't want to deal with the shitstorm. He had signed off for the night so out of respect I put it on my blog instead of posting it here.
If Bish was mad about this im 99999999% certain he would have told me and banned me. He did neither.
Calvinpewpewpew
Neo Member
I think it is crucial to quote this post, because nearly every single thing you (mortimer), thuway, and CBOAT passed off as immutable fact was either vastly overblown or simply factually untrue.
What you posted today sounds a. legitimate, b. reasonable, and c. necessary. But by and large the party system works (albeit its not user friendly) without a hitch. It almost never crashes. You can switch games seamlessly. Snapping is nearly flawless on my box. The voice commands are by and large solid. The unit is cool, quiet, and no immediate hardware issues as hinted at. The online infrastructure for COD and BF4 (the only games I have played on both) is vastly more stable on the X1.
So yeah, I am quoting this post because while Microsoft has done all kinds of stupid things with the X1, and in many ways the UI is a model of how to overcomplicate the simple for no goddamn reason, the group of insiders was wrong or misinformed about nearly every "ass-storm" "bish is going to crawl into a hole and die" and other ridiculous controversies.
What you posted today sounds a. legitimate, b. reasonable, and c. necessary. But by and large the party system works (albeit its not user friendly) without a hitch. It almost never crashes. You can switch games seamlessly. Snapping is nearly flawless on my box. The voice commands are by and large solid. The unit is cool, quiet, and no immediate hardware issues as hinted at. The online infrastructure for COD and BF4 (the only games I have played on both) is vastly more stable on the X1.
So yeah, I am quoting this post because while Microsoft has done all kinds of stupid things with the X1, and in many ways the UI is a model of how to overcomplicate the simple for no goddamn reason, the group of insiders was wrong or misinformed about nearly every "ass-storm" "bish is going to crawl into a hole and die" and other ridiculous controversies.
You co-signed everything they said as being legitimate and basically the same stuff you were hearing from your sources:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88177595&postcount=812
I'm not doubting what you're saying here because it not only sounds plausible, because as you said, it's the right move to make - but if you're going to play this insider game - you really need to take your lumps when you're wrong. It's not the end of the world, just roll with the punches and move on. People will respect you more for it.
KillerDark
Member
If thats true that is an insane amount of time to fix it.
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