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[DrWong]

I was was so certain that whatever they were cooking up with this thing, it would trounce the PS4 in power. I guess I was wrong.

But not for the reasons you think ;]

Edit: this thread is like a Splatoon sessions where the other team guys are all respawning on the last of their mates still alive and the your team is just waiting in the ink and shooting them in the order of respawn.

 

[Oersted]

Who commissions these marketing surveys? I'd assume Nintendo would benefit from seeing the results so I don't think it's fair to definitively say Nintendo is not involved.

Often enough the marketing companies to have something to sell.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I guess I'm sorry for using the word leak. Mistake on my part.

No apology necessary. It's water under the 900p.

 

[Mpl90]

mpl pls... i thought you don't skip posts

The poster who said that clarified a few pages ago that they were joking.

Sorry then, must have missed it somehow. My bad!

 

[jmizzal]

So Emily Rogers just posted te rest of the survey

https://twitter.com/Emi1yRogers/status/689873482855817218

Pretty neat survey it gives a lot of console options and would give Nintendo a lot of good feed back

 

[MrV4ltor]

Updated the OP, sorry that I didn't do it earlier, but I wasn't at my computer for the last hour or so.

 

[georly]

Who commissions these marketing surveys? I'd assume Nintendo would benefit from seeing the results so I don't think it's fair to definitively say Nintendo is not involved.

Investment firms would also commission the survey if they want to know if nintendo is worth buying shares for or if it's worth reporting that it's worth buying buying shares for.

 

[dyergram]

what I gathered from this is that the handheld is separate to the console not a gamepad that turns into a handheld.

 

[BY2K]

Who commissions these marketing surveys? I'd assume Nintendo would benefit from seeing the results so I don't think it's fair to definitively say Nintendo is not involved.

Gotta be some kind of third-party.

 

[NDP_Mulcair]

Who commissions these marketing surveys? I'd assume Nintendo would benefit from seeing the results so I don't think it's fair to definitively say Nintendo is not involved.

GfK conducts a bunch of surveys on its own accord, aggregates them, and then sells the market research data to any potentially-interested parties.

It doesn't have to be instigated by a third party.

 

[crooked spin]

GfK conducts a bunch of surveys on its own accord, aggregates them, and then sells the market research data to any potentially-interested parties.

It doesn't have to be instigated by a third party.

Gotcha.

 

[cartographer]

Speculation aside, I do find it interesting how laughable 900p/60 fps when there are games on consoles already released that struggle to hit that sort of resolution and framerate combination, or have to make significant sacrifices to do so.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

It honestly wouldn't even make sense to settle for a lower resolution than what the Wii U was able to handle. Smash Bros U for example was 1080p, wasn't it? I would absolutely love it if it can handle 1080p and 60fps for most games or even 4K. Directly competing or actually beating the competition in that regard. I don't see that happening though. I don't know what to expect to be honest.

 

[Kodaman]

But not for the reasons you think ;]

Edit: this thread is like a Splatoon sessions where the other team guys are all respawning on the last of their mates still alive and the your team is just waiting in the ink and shooting them in the order of respawn.

lol at the analogy

 

[Mark5130]

Nintendo needs to distance themselves from the WII U as far as they can go and mention of a sensor bar isn't reassuring.

 

[Kodaman]

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...please add to the op.. someone.. quickly

 

[FloorEssence]

People complaining about 900p/60fps when aren't most ps4/xbo games 900-1080p and only 30fps? Only a few exceptions afaik

 

[Oersted]

Nintendo needs to distance themselves from the WII U as far as they can go and mention of a sensor bar isn't reassuring.

Did you read the OP?

 

[krazen]

Nintendo needs to distance themselves from the WII U as far as they can go and mention of a sensor bar isn't reassuring.

This late in the game its GOTTA be backwards compatible.

While its become a dirty word for other manufacturers, completely restarting so deep into this gen without that option would hurt.

 

[whitehawk]

The handheld will have 900p/60

The console sure'll have 1080p/60

I suspect a new Nintendo handheld would be 540p at the most, like the Vita. Possibly even 480p.

 

[wheeplash]

DOA, if true.

Except for the amibo folks. They'll buy anything

Yep, nothing to see here.
Diehard fans will buy it like always, the rest of the world will turn a blind eye.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Targeting 900p/60fps.

Megaroffles

 

[SalvaPot]

Yep, nothing to see here.
Diehard fans will buy it like always, the rest of the world will turn a blind eye.

The survey has be proven baseless, all the information in the OP is just speculation.

 

[Oeufcoque]

Could it be that the 900p/60fps is actually for the handheld and not what the console outputs?

 

[Hip Hop]

900p? Damn NXbox, why you do this to me.

They got their priorities straight it seems.

I'd rather have fluid gameplay than Xbox or PS4 pushing for 1080p/30fps.

 

[ShadowFox08]

Plot twist. Its 900p the hand held device.

 

[Mory Dunz]

Could it be that the 900p/60fps is actually for the handheld and not what the console outputs?

or it's nothing because this whole thing is nothing.

maybe time for a thread lock lol

 

[StreetsAhead]

Why anyone is assuming that the console would be in some way limited to 900p60fps is beyond me.

Like, if a lay person asked me the Wii U's "resolution" I'd probably say '720p60fps, but it displays at 1080p' because that's what a bulk of (at least 1st party) games render at or around.

 

[doop_]

Someone look for patents. Better than this "rumour"

 

[Mory Dunz]

Why anyone is assuming that the console would be in some way limited to 900p60fps is beyond me.

With how many resolutions threads GAF has, I thought it'd be known how it works...

 

[I'm Spartacus]

Again, just for curiosity, I want to know from those who have access to the survey if this tidbit was actually cropped out of the first, leaked page



I'd really love to know that. If anyone can ask to Emily herself (can't do that now), it'd be fantastic.

Hi, I have to apologise because I got it wrong - what the cropped section really said was:-

"Of the above, which of these will thoroughly rustle the jimmies of many Neogaf members and cause a 25+ page thread to appear?"

 

[UV-6]

I don't understand why people are angry at the 900p thing.

Even the PS4 releases games at 900p/60fps. Battlefront looks amazing graphically and that is 900p/60fps as well!

 

[Anth0ny]

I don't understand why people are angry at the 900p thing.

Even the PS4 releases games at 900p/60fps. Battlefront looks amazing graphically and that is 900p/60fps as well!

PS4 is a 2013 console. This is a 2016 or possibly 2017 console.

Why anyone is assuming that the console would be in some way limited to 900p60fps is beyond me.

Like, if a lay person asked me the Wii U's "resolution" I'd probably say '720p60fps, but it displays at 1080p' because that's what a bulk of (at least 1st party) games render at or around.

Doesn't only Smash and Wind Waker HD display at 1080p?

 

[Trago]

PS4 is a 2013 console. This is a 2016 or possibly 2017 console.



Doesn't only Smash and Wind Waker HD display at 1080p?

So you'll assume that Nintendo will make 900p a requirement for game developers systemwide? Even though devs could choose what resolution they want to render at right now?

 

[RubberJohnny]

Why are people saying this is debunked or speculation? Nintendo is a client of GfK, this is them looking to do market testing on price points compared to the competition, plus discussion about online services.

The stuff about the actual device in here is fully in line with their patents and all the rumours we've had so far from the supply chain. It's pretty far along, and although they might tweak stuff like hard drive sizes, it's pretty clear something very close to this is what we'll get.

 

[Coffee Dog]

PS4 is a 2013 console. This is a 2016 or possibly 2017 console.

It's a 2013 console made by a company with a lot more money than Nintendo.

 

[Trago]

Let's see, my company is already struggling to get support from publishers, I'm developing a new console. Know what I can do to make my console less appealing to develop for? Limit the fucking resolution to an arbitrary number instead of giving them the choice!

See how stupid that sounds?

 

[iMax]

Why are people saying this is debunked or speculation? Nintendo is a client of GfK, this is them looking to do market testing on price points compared to the competition, plus discussion about online services.

The stuff about the actual device in here is fully in line with their patents and all the rumours we've had so far from the supply chain. It's pretty far along, and although they might tweak stuff like hard drive sizes, it's pretty clear something very close to this is what we'll get.

Source?

 

[Kimawolf]

Let's see, my company is already struggling to get support from publishers, I'm developing a new console. Know what I can do to make my console less appealing to develop for? Limit the fucking resolution to an arbitrary number instead of giving them the choice!

See how stupid that sounds?

Unless that's your handheld screen resolution. then like every handheld ever, thats the max resolution you can go up to for it.

 

[beril]

Why are people saying this is debunked or speculation? Nintendo is a client of GfK, this is them looking to do market testing on price points compared to the competition, plus discussion about online services.

The stuff about the actual device in here is fully in line with their patents and all the rumours we've had so far from the supply chain. It's pretty far along, and although they might tweak stuff like hard drive sizes, it's pretty clear something very close to this is what we'll get.

It's clear from the survey we'll get a console in the $199-$550 price range with or without an optical drive that will come with an HDMI cable.

the whole thing is stupid. 900p/60fps is not a spec, it's not something that anyone with any details of the platform would say, it's not something anyone with any general technical knowledge would say about an unreleased platform, it's certainly not something anyone in PR would say. There's just no realistic possibility that the first piece of info about hardware power we get from Nintendo, even as a second hand source, is 900p/60 fps.

 

[Trago]

Unless that's your handheld screen resolution. then like every handheld ever, thats the max resolution you can go up to for it.

There's no way in hell the handheld screen resolution is that high.

 

[RubberJohnny]

It's clear from the survey we'll get a console in the $199-$550 price range with or without an optical drive that will come with an HDMI cable.

the whole thing is stupid. 900p/60fps is not a spec, it's not something that anyone with any details of the platform would say, it's not something anyone with any general technical knowledge would say about an unreleased platform, it's certainly not something anyone in PR would say.

900p/60fps is a spec if the patents about the handheld having a screen are true.

 

[Oersted]

PS4 is a 2013 console. This is a 2016 or possibly 2017 console.



Doesn't only Smash and Wind Waker HD display at 1080p?

Doesn't the very fact that there are a variety of framerates and resolutions already on WiiU tell you how fucking dumb the 900p/60fps part is?

900p/60fps is a spec if the patents about the handheld having a screen are true.

No, it is not a spec. Framerates are not specs.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Anybody want to laugh at 900/60
fps yall got it twisted.

 

[Ansatz]

Doesn't the very fact that there are a variety of framerates and resolutions already on WiiU tell you how fucking dumb the 900p/60fps part is?

It's not about what the console will be capable of producing.

What if the majority of Nintendo's 1st party output run at 900p60fps? This little fact would cause meltdowns all over the internet. Like, if Mario Kart 9 is 900p native.

 

[th4tguy]

Anybody want to laugh at 900/60
fps yall got it twisted.

Pretty sure that is the resolution and refresh rate of the handheld screen

 

[Oersted]

It's not about what the console will be capable of producing.

What if the majority of Nintendo's 1st party output run at 900p60fps? This little fact would cause meltdowns all over the internet. Like, if Mario Kart 9 is 900p native.

What if NX is a toaster? A toaster that can run Crysis 1-3 simultaneosly? What if?

Pretty sure that is the resolution and refresh rate of the handheld screen

Pls be trolling

 

[RubberJohnny]

No, it is not a spec. Framerates are not specs.

It's a refresh rate of a screen.

 

[pasta_fire]

If you really think the NX is going to have the graphical capabilities of PS4 or Xbox One you are sorely mistaken.

 

[Starfish Hero]

If you really think the NX is going to have the graphical capabilities of PS4 or Xbox One you are sorely mistaken.

That's not a very high bar tbh