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Shocking News: Phil Spencer suggests Scorpio will not cost more than $599
- Thread starter MilkyJoe
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You are talking about component prices from 6-8 months from now. The consoles still have to be built for a Holiday launch a little over a year from now. Prices are not going to drop anywhere near that. Two years out, three years out? sure. 6-8 months prices? not a chance.
ClarkZuckerberg
Neo Member
$399
They have to. They just HAVE to. They're losing by far vs PS4 in terms of public perception and in numbers (even though they've been making up good ground recently). They CAN NOT price this more than PS4 Pro and PS4 Pro will be $349 next Christmas,. Even if PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio aren't anywhere near as powerful as each other, it will seem close enough to the public because PS4 Pro is an "upgraded/better PS4" and the Xbox One to Scorpio jump will be viewed the same.
They have to. They just HAVE to. They're losing by far vs PS4 in terms of public perception and in numbers (even though they've been making up good ground recently). They CAN NOT price this more than PS4 Pro and PS4 Pro will be $349 next Christmas,. Even if PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio aren't anywhere near as powerful as each other, it will seem close enough to the public because PS4 Pro is an "upgraded/better PS4" and the Xbox One to Scorpio jump will be viewed the same.
Ban Puncher
Member
Yeah, so it will be dead on arrival in Euro countries.
ClarkZuckerberg
Neo Member
it's 715$ in today's terms so I don't know why people are freaking out about 599$ ?
$715 TODAY vs 1 year from now. Also is $715 for the parts to build a PC? If so then it would be quite a bit less, more like $500-600 (maybe even less) for M$ to manufacture millions of these.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Considering their target market, and the AMD innards of the thing, I don't know how it could even be more than $500 without having a ridiculous profit margin or be plated in gold.
Bits N Pieces
Member
That's a Pound not a Dollar im using their.
So the Pro will go up in price? Wut. It'll be more expensive, bank on it. Every component is more expensive.
edit: you mean $449 for the Scorpio, not Pro?
Transistor
Banned
Oh, I know, and it's still in your dreams
ClarkZuckerberg
Neo Member
Lol. I stupid. Was thinking Canadian prices (even then, I'm wrong lol). I think $399 is still necessary, but Pro will be $349 next Christmas, maybe still $399 (RRSP).
Aceofspades
Banned
It will be $399, rumored specs doesn't suggest higher than that especially given the late 2017 release.
TBiddy
Member
The PS4 launched at 399 and did just great in Europe. It's a fine price.
Key words, for PS.
crazy monkey
Banned
My guess Is same.
johancruijff
Banned
499 for the 500GB version
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Haha. Perfect title update.
I'll probobobly but regardless. They had better include the fucking UHD arrive though, as that's the only reason I bought the XBO S even though I already had a D1E.
Also, give us at least 2 gigs, if not 3.
I'll probobobly but regardless. They had better include the fucking UHD arrive though, as that's the only reason I bought the XBO S even though I already had a D1E.
Also, give us at least 2 gigs, if not 3.
IgotElbows
Member
Sounds like 499 to me.
399 maybe but they would def be selling at a loss.
399 maybe but they would def be selling at a loss.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
$499 is a lock with 1 game.
User 479360
Banned
Please don't be more than $500-$550 CAD.
Haha perfect. Wapple you are deluded
brokenbeans
Banned
1tb needs to be the new internal storage standard.
Bits N Pieces
Member
I see the knives are out again. Maybe if we change the title to Sony and Shu we can start hyping up that year of Dreams Mk III and everyone jumps on the happy positive train? Then again maybe not, lol
Just seen that IGN posted an hour interview with Phil as well though I cant watch it right now, probably going over similar ground here.
http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2016/09/30/ign-happy-hour-phil-spencer-special
Just seen that IGN posted an hour interview with Phil as well though I cant watch it right now, probably going over similar ground here.
http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2016/09/30/ign-happy-hour-phil-spencer-special
Yeah, but this is an Xbox. They have to sell their system at a significantly lower price than the PS4 to even have a chance. In Germany, the Xbox One hasn't even outsold the Wii U yet despite being much cheaper and the Wii U being pretty much dead.
cheezcake
Member
A PS4 equivalent gpu at ps4 launch cost $180, the PS4 pro GPU has no direct equivalent but it's a little less powerful than a $180 GPU this year. A Scorpio equivalent GPU is $230 and will fall a bit by release next year. CPU is unknown so can't really comment on that but it really doesn't seem like there's a chance it's over $499, it's not really that powerful a machine for 2017, its basically a little better than what the current consoles were when they were released, relatively speaking.
unapersson
Member
It may depend on our exchange rate at the time.
Corleth the Fey
Member
If there isn't a model at 399 then Xbox 1.5 is doomed to a bad start. This is reality, and Microsoft have to fall in line and they will. Save this post and shame me next year if it suits you.
I'm pretty sure that Microsoft and Sony like to feed this narrative. It works to their advantage. "Technobabble + fancy presentation = super powerful console" - has to be expensive right? Price is announced. Consumer reaction - "Oh that's a lot less then I expected what a bargain. Reaches for wallet"
Learn from history. Realize the price that the market can sustain is the price that Microsoft has to hit. Sony didn't put a bloody 4K optical drive in their 4K console because they knew they had to hit 399. And this is the team that is way out in front.
GankzyMcfly
Member
I don't understand how this is shocking...several people on gaf and online have been suggesting the scorpio would likely be in the price range of 399.99-599.99 anybody who thinks its going to be any higher then that is crazy imo.
I think it'll have a launch price that's higher than the Pro this year.
But like the thread change says, we won't have a "get a second job" situation either of course. I'm banking on $450 for the 1Tb version and maybe $520 for 2Tb.
It's a premium SKU so expect something a little pricey, especially with all the tech MS seemingly want to put in Scorpio.
Oculus VR on this will require powerful innards for a good experience.
Really? Thread seems quite civil to me so far.
But like the thread change says, we won't have a "get a second job" situation either of course. I'm banking on $450 for the 1Tb version and maybe $520 for 2Tb.
It's a premium SKU so expect something a little pricey, especially with all the tech MS seemingly want to put in Scorpio.
Oculus VR on this will require powerful innards for a good experience.
Really? Thread seems quite civil to me so far.
People need to look st the whole picture.
When Scorpio launches, MS will still be selling xb1s and making a profit on ever Xb1s sold. The xb1s is the mass market device and it will be priced accordingly.
I think MS has a lot of wiggle room with the Scorpio- and they there's a chance they'll utilize all of it:
$400 for the entry level Scorpio. $500 for the elite version.
I'm not so sure MS will be totally opposed to losing money on early Scorpio sales. Initially, I don't think they expect to sell it at a high enough volume to make that an issue. Given their comments about wanting to end "hardstops" between generations, I think the Scorpio is MS' Trojan horse into Gen 9. When xb2s and PS5s launch, Scorpio will take the xb1s' place as the min spec, mass market priced hardware, and MS will already have an installed base capable of playing gen 9 games.
When Scorpio launches, MS will still be selling xb1s and making a profit on ever Xb1s sold. The xb1s is the mass market device and it will be priced accordingly.
I think MS has a lot of wiggle room with the Scorpio- and they there's a chance they'll utilize all of it:
$400 for the entry level Scorpio. $500 for the elite version.
I'm not so sure MS will be totally opposed to losing money on early Scorpio sales. Initially, I don't think they expect to sell it at a high enough volume to make that an issue. Given their comments about wanting to end "hardstops" between generations, I think the Scorpio is MS' Trojan horse into Gen 9. When xb2s and PS5s launch, Scorpio will take the xb1s' place as the min spec, mass market priced hardware, and MS will already have an installed base capable of playing gen 9 games.
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
Junior Member
OH wow. NO. If microsoft is pricematching Sony, it's either going to be a lot shittier specs wise, or it's going to be a huge financial loss for Microsoft. Which shareholders don't want. Hell they don't even want the Xbox anymore. I'm estimating at least 499. Most likely 599 if they keep their promises and wait for new architecture. But this is gon be one hell of a fight. Can't wait to see what that Scorpion is gonna have under that hood.
The Bookerman
Member
are you Mr Cafeine?
MilkyJoe
Member
wapplew
Member
Base on how closely MS follow PS4 success playbook, like PS4, Scorpio will be stronger and cheaper, at launch.
$299-$349 MSRP and will come with 2-3 games within a month, just like OneS.
Xbox was not something shareholders want before, but Xbox is the major Windows 10 ecosystem pusher now., it fit their internal goal, I think they are willing to sell at cost or take a lost to play the long game, just like free windows 10 upgrade.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
It'll be $399
SensibleSucker
Member
There's no way MS would fall into the $599 hole. That price is simply poison to console gamers.
The Xbone launched at $499, with Kinect and didn't do well. However, that was also in part because the cheaper competitor was more powerful. MS may feel more confident charging more because Scorpio will be the strongest piece of kit.
My head says it'll launch at $499, because it is being promoted as premium, but they really need to move away from that Xbone launch price. It;s just another way of showing they learned from teh OGBone launch debacle.
$449/£399.
If they really wanted to capture mind-share. $399. I genuinely think that losing $50 on the unit at launch will bag them millions of extra sales.
The Xbone launched at $499, with Kinect and didn't do well. However, that was also in part because the cheaper competitor was more powerful. MS may feel more confident charging more because Scorpio will be the strongest piece of kit.
My head says it'll launch at $499, because it is being promoted as premium, but they really need to move away from that Xbone launch price. It;s just another way of showing they learned from teh OGBone launch debacle.
$449/£399.
If they really wanted to capture mind-share. $399. I genuinely think that losing $50 on the unit at launch will bag them millions of extra sales.
Personally don't care about it cause i'm fine with my fat Xbox One and powerful PC, though I think Scorpio won't cost more than 450$ at launch in fall 2017, really those 6TF will be achievable with a custom version of a GPU like the AMD RX480, which costs 200$ to the customer right now, so in about one year from now will be much cheaper, especially for Microsoft, also they know price is important so they'll do everything to keep it as low as possible, to me it'll be 400$ and at most 450$
Bingo.
399 would be fine really, I'm not banking on it though.
Oh god, the overreaction here.
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