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Should Halo 6 keep or remove sprinting?
- Thread starter SOR5
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AW mindset, More of a run in and shoot em up mindset?
That wouldn't be successful in high onyx play.
I can run around like a chicken with my head cut off when i'm playing people less skilled than me. but it's still very much halo and will punish people who {can't shoot, and who don't work together.}
I want old Halo back in that regard. The ads and sights need to go.
Halo 6 needs trimmed and simplified. Keep it clean.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Thrust + crouch
What?
GringoSuave89
Banned
Without the distance you slide being incredibly broken, there's no way sliding would be anything more than cosmetic.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Leave my sprint alone damn it!
Complicated
Banned
Any changes of this magnitude to Halo 5's formula would probably kill it for me. It's incredibly good already. Don't mess it up. Keep doing what works and make the game its own thing.
Qft, Halo 5 was the most halo I played since 2 or 3.
Halo 6 multiplayer should just be new maps for Halo 5. Maybe tweek some weapons, but the movement was perfect.
They really need to work on their campaign though.
I Want Your Cat
Member
I dont like sprinting but i hate halos slow movement speed. Maybe increase the speed so we can strafe properly.
I don't have strong feelings about sprint anymore, and I was always fervently anti-sprint before Halo 5. I think they balanced it really well. They made me a believer!
My bigger concerns are clamber and motion tracker. Neither one of them are necessary, and neither add to competitive gameplay. Take'em out.
My bigger concerns are clamber and motion tracker. Neither one of them are necessary, and neither add to competitive gameplay. Take'em out.
Iced Arcade
Member
keep it, why ruin a good thing.
"The gunplay is great but the maps suck."
What if the maps suck because the gunplay puts awkward constraints on map design?
Halo 4 was especially terrible about this. Not just because of sprint; the extreme ease of wrecking stuff even at long range with the spawn weapons ("that feel so good to use!") meant that non-messy line-of-sight design would tend to cause map movement to bog down (see: Ragnarok).
Halo 5's sprint is "good" insofar as it doesn't blatantly break moment-to-moment gun battles like it did in the last game, but it still seems like it's having problematic effects on map design (i.e. movement scale is awkwardly large for gunplay scale) with no obvious actual benefit. It probably won't be removed, but I think it should be.
(I also think Halo just plain feels better without it. Always felt more actively engaged IMO; positioning was more committal, and the ability to look and shoot while moving around meant that you were able to constantly participate in recon and whatnot.)
What if the maps suck because the gunplay puts awkward constraints on map design?
Halo 4 was especially terrible about this. Not just because of sprint; the extreme ease of wrecking stuff even at long range with the spawn weapons ("that feel so good to use!") meant that non-messy line-of-sight design would tend to cause map movement to bog down (see: Ragnarok).
Halo 5's sprint is "good" insofar as it doesn't blatantly break moment-to-moment gun battles like it did in the last game, but it still seems like it's having problematic effects on map design (i.e. movement scale is awkwardly large for gunplay scale) with no obvious actual benefit. It probably won't be removed, but I think it should be.
(I also think Halo just plain feels better without it. Always felt more actively engaged IMO; positioning was more committal, and the ability to look and shoot while moving around meant that you were able to constantly participate in recon and whatnot.)
Oh god, please, no. Not in Halo.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
I don't understand what you mean lol, explain?
Radar isn't necessary for casual play either imo. It's too bad how dependent some Halo fans have become on those little red dots.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Tbh it won't affect me that much either way since I play the campaigns and don't touch the multiplayer.
I much prefer Halo without sprint, but Halo 5's movement and gunplay are pretty well balanced so sprint is not much of an issue this time around. Compare this to Reach's fat ass spartans and inaccurate bloom weapons, for example, where sprint becomes glaringly detrimental.
What really needs to go is radar.
What really needs to go is radar.
The British Hick
Neo Member
What Halo 6 should do is keep the movement and abilities the same as H5.
This franchise needs some consistency for once, we haven't had a sequel with similar movement as the game prior since H2>3.
This isn't to say I think sprint is great or any of the other abilities, it's just that having something so core to the game continually changed from one iteration to the next doesn't bode well IMO.
However I do prefer no sprint and always have, I just think to the average player or newcomer that there needs to be some familiarities from one game to the next.
This franchise needs some consistency for once, we haven't had a sequel with similar movement as the game prior since H2>3.
This isn't to say I think sprint is great or any of the other abilities, it's just that having something so core to the game continually changed from one iteration to the next doesn't bode well IMO.
However I do prefer no sprint and always have, I just think to the average player or newcomer that there needs to be some familiarities from one game to the next.
Yangshouwen
Banned
Halo 5 MP is fine the way it is.
Halo evolved, it needed Sprint! Those that don't like it, are stuck in the old times.
Halo evolved, it needed Sprint! Those that don't like it, are stuck in the old times.
Good explanation. I feel that I'm concentrating less on the what's going on and just running about to action. It's like a blur until you arrive. Map design is definitely affected, you just run everywhere so it has to be stretched out. Clamber probably doesn't help either, have random cubes to clamber but I do like the mechanic.
And yet people couldn't seem to understand that Halo and CoD are designed very differently and that Halo never needed sprint or aiming down sights or instant respawns and loadouts but that is where we went, no? Halo 4 was what 343 thought fans of CoD wanted Halo to be. They didn't care about what Halo fans thought because we are suckers who would buy Halo regardless. But that is why they tried to strike a balance with H5.
Like I said, however, Sprint has not and continues to not work in Halo games. Even with their anti-shield recharge mechanic, sprint has never been more popular because they also added the offensive spartan charge move. An instant kill from the back, full shield take off from the front. It is more reward vs risk, people whiff on spartan charge very few times compared to hits and the magnetism and range is ridiculous. Halo 5 has unlimited sprint in arena too because they needed unlimited sprint for Warzone since people have to run through giant ass maps with far away respawns. Going forward, I would keep thrust, I would keep clamber, I would even the stablization hover, but sprint, and possibly ground pound need to go. As for motion tracker, make it rank based. Low level ranks have it. But anything beyond diamond and it is gone. Or change the way it works. Have people who have heavy power weapons like rockets as primary moving around, those thrusting, those in line of sight, or those actively firing guns show up in your motion tracker. Let's see what they do with H6.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Loadouts in Halo?
Leave the gameplay mechanics from Halo 5 untouched. It should be the standard moving forward.
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Collateral22
Member
That's the thing, I could never get that far even if I played a traditional Halo style, because everyone would leave when shit hit the fan. Maybe I'd enjoy it more running with a team but the only person I know who plays Halo still plays it exclusively for eSports for his team so doesn't have time for hours of pubs
How would your recharge your shield with auto-sprint?
No auto sprint. The shield recharge is tied to not sprinting, auto spring means they have to bring in a way for the shields to charge at all times which breaks the balance they have.
hanspampel
Banned
not sure, if you could go back.
stay without sprint is easier than go back to no sprint
stay without sprint is easier than go back to no sprint
Jaguar Victory
Member
I think before commenting on this folks should tell us how much time they logged in Halo 5 MP. Personally I've done a good bit as level 99 and I think sprint and clamber are great.
Overwatch doesn't have sprint for every character but has characters that enable sprint like Lucio. Also characters that allow teleport and revives. Soldier and Sombra outright have sprint while you can leap with Winston, pull yourself forward with Widow, teleport with Reaper, etc. Overwatch had lots of mobility pieces.
Halo would be boring without sprint and clamber.
IMO - obviously.
Overwatch doesn't have sprint for every character but has characters that enable sprint like Lucio. Also characters that allow teleport and revives. Soldier and Sombra outright have sprint while you can leap with Winston, pull yourself forward with Widow, teleport with Reaper, etc. Overwatch had lots of mobility pieces.
Halo would be boring without sprint and clamber.
IMO - obviously.
Black Mantis
Member
Definitely a keeper for me. I'm currently playing through MCC again and I miss it.
Definitely so, It's stressful and annoying to have unreliable teammates who shit the bed then quit on you (while being the worst on the team) it's frustrating and makes the game not fun to play. Social has eased this a lot so it's not as serious.
Monocle
Member
It's more Halo than the last two Halos.
The gameplay is as good as it's ever been. 343 achieved what Bungie couldn't by finding the sweet spot between old and new. Familiar mechanics with useful, intuitive extensions of those mechanics. No tacked-on additions like dual wielding or armor abilities. They did a damn good job.
Zeus The Dino
Member
Isn't that what fans said after Halo Reach ?
Isn't that what fans said after Halo 4?
Isn't that what fans said after MCC?
Don't keep your hopes up, 343 will always find something to fuck up.
Monocle
Member
They solved just about all of Halo 4's problems, so really the only way to maintain that position is to flat out ignore the many specific flaws they addressed in every important area.
Isn't that what fans said after Halo Reach ?
Isn't that what fans said after Halo 4?
Isn't that what fans said after MCC?
Don't keep your hopes up, 343 will always find something to fuck up.
Nice gif though.
If they are gonna keep it, they need to nerf it so that it doesn't impact map design so much. Give it a 3 second warm up, and make it so that taking any damage or changing direction knocks you out of sprint.
Also, make it tied to how long you push forward instead of wasting a button on it. H5s controls are too convoluted.
Also, make it tied to how long you push forward instead of wasting a button on it. H5s controls are too convoluted.
Zeus The Dino
Member
Sure they resolved most of its problems, but as a result Halo 5 was released unfinished with many missing features. Which caused many to stop playing the game.
It took a few months to get the carnage report lmao, pathetic.