Sony would be insane not to properly sandbox the emulator. No additional risk involved. If they won't allow DVD playback than you can be sure that hackers will use it as an excuse to hack the console and allow it.
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Sony confirms PS2 emulation coming to PS4
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thatJohann
Member
It will be cross-buy if you bought the digital version on the PS Sotre, but they won't allow you to just put in your PSX or PS2 disc and get free access to the digital emulated copy. It wouldn't make sense from a business perspective. The goal is to make money and if they start releasing batches of Playstation Classics in waves on the PS Store, you know people will buy them. Profit.
BoBoThunder
Member
Oh I know. But they need a reason to make PlayStation Now relevant. I am all for the disc-based emulation. Call it playing a poor devil's advocate.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Freedom Fighters... Mercenaries... Ack please support disc-based emulation!
That literally a one time use product (if you had the OG PS3).
Anyways, I hope this (emulation) happens.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
You're right on that, but they could have something like pay 19,99 for this PS1/2 emulator which let's you play physical discs. But I guess there won't be something like that.
Edit: Or they implement disc support just for the positive PR they would get.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
PS Now is relevant to reaching the maximum number of people because you don't need a powerful local-machine to stream video.
Local emulation is relevant to enthusiasts for the image quality and latency advantages.
Zephyrettes
Member
My thoughts exactly, and would have been a pretty good thing to announce at such a PlayStation focused event.
Remember the patent for this:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2013/0073551.html
It talks about "disk", never "disc".
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2013/0073551.html
It talks about "disk", never "disc".
Emperor Bohe
Member
You can use it on pc too =D
thatJohann
Member
Don't think like a gamer, think like a Sony stakeholder. To get the budget approved to develop this emulation functionality, they had to back it up with a business plan that shows Sony making a clear profit. So, get your wallets ready.
Goodacre0081
Member
I really don't like the idea or re-buying stuff but maybe they can roll BC into PS+ somehow. maybe require you to have a sub to take advantage of the feature. it's not totally free but it also not as off putting as the PSnow pricing model.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I am okay with that. I just want a big library.
I'll gladly pay 10-15 bucks for PS2 games and also there were pretty good sales on classics.
FranXico
Member
What if they tied PS2 emulation from disc to PS+? Would you find that acceptable?
(I personally wouldn't).
There was no leak, these Star Wars games officially released this week as part of the Battlefront PS4 bundle.
Same - cost and library are key.
privitsan02
Member
I would personally make it so that if you have the discs, you can play PS1 and PS2 games through emulation. If you buy them digitally, you get the upscaling to 1080p and trophies. If you've already bought the games, just redownload them as there aren't patch support for the classics or you can have an upgrade feature where you can pay a small fee to get the updated edition.
They will gain a lot of goodwill asset through this. But of course, that's like a fans dream. They will never do all of that when they can charge you for those same games again. Just the sad reality of this industry. Don't see them pulling a Microsoft this past E3.
Best wishes.
They will gain a lot of goodwill asset through this. But of course, that's like a fans dream. They will never do all of that when they can charge you for those same games again. Just the sad reality of this industry. Don't see them pulling a Microsoft this past E3.
Best wishes.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Can people who claim "nobody cares" about BC now be quiet for once?
Clearly Sony and Microsoft disagree.
Clearly Sony and Microsoft disagree.
Goodacre0081
Member
im remembering an article a while ago that quoted a Sony exec and he talked about only implementing things on the console that can make them money. I think it was in regards to customer wallpapers or something similar. this seems like a good reason why we don't have that simple feature yet.
of course we want disc based BC but it doesn't rule out selling those games on the storefront either.
unrealistic expectations.
We have to accept this will never happen.
Iorv3th
Member
My ps3 does.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
XAMOEL_ART
Banned
Cool, theres some Crash bandicoot games on PS2 
The Elite
BOSS
Microsoft isn't and I don't think Sony will either.
Your PS3 has PS2 parts.
2blackcats
Member
That means the HDD. The system is looking for when certain values are assigned to a variable.
i. e. When level = 10, release bronze trophy 10
Goodacre0081
Member
why can't it go that same route XB1 went? it doesn't have disc based emulation either but old discs can be used to verify you own it.
So? Its still a PS3 that has disc BC. That person was replying to someone who was saying the PS3 didn't have it at all when it did. And later models didn't have the PS2 parts and still did PS2 disc BC.
Danlord
Member
It won't be looking at the HDD, it would be looking at the game's memory, which has no bearings whether it's reading the game from a HDD or a DVD.
FranXico
Member
That would be reasonable. Let's hope Sony follows Microsoft's example on that.
All PS3s do disc emulation of PS1 games.
All PS3s have PS1 disc emulation.
ALL PS3s support PS1 CDs
Early PS3s support PS2 DVDs
ALL hacked PS3s support PS2 DVDs - Sony continued to improve the PS3's PS2 emulator through firmware updates, those PS2 classics on the store are nothing more than dumped .isos. Hack your PS3 and it can play PS2 games. The only reason Sony locks the emulator away is because they want to sell you Classics on the store and there isn't 100% compatibility with all games.
See above.
2blackcats
Member
" it would be looking at the game's memory,"
The games memory? The RAM you mean? Or have you gone back to cartridges?
The HDD is used as virtual memory.
The games memory? The RAM you mean? Or have you gone back to cartridges?
The HDD is used as virtual memory.
The Elite
BOSS
Please
I might finally get around to playing this game if I can buy it off the Japanese store.
Also,
Fire Pro Returns.
KenzinFive
Member
I would be perfectly happy if this just meant that the PS2 digital releases transfer over to PS4. That would mean God Hand, SMT Nocturne, Odin Sphere, and a whole bunch of other games immediately available for me.
Sony adding disc-based emulation would just be a cherry on top.
Sony adding disc-based emulation would just be a cherry on top.
D
Deleted member 126221
Unconfirmed Member
WHAT?! I really need to look into this, especially if PS4 doesn't support discs (and I know it's gonna happen).
EDIT: Looks like there's nothing I can do if my PS3 is up-to-date. Meh.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
What models are you referring to ? I only know that the fat 60GB PS3 had disc BC.