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[SEGAvangelist]

How would MS even respond to a PS4 price cut so close to the holidays?

They already have Halo 5, but I'm guessing a $299 XB1 will happen this year.

 

[Chobel]

It honestly has little to do with any of that. These conferences aren't just about announcing new games, but promoting your platform. Gamescom is just poorly positioned this year unfortunately. From the end of November until January, you have the biggest period of the year in terms of sales. This media briefing is the answer to that age old question, "What does Sony have for the holidays?" It turns out they have words.

At least you know what people are going to look forward to now if TLG isn't shown at E3.

Edit:

Oh wait. I forgot. There's that one show called, TGS. But no one really expects TLG there, ever.

Edit 2:

It's not that I forgot, but that TGS sucks.

Oh, you bastard.

 

[TheRealTalker]

I just want to see more of the game WiLD

 

[The Last One]

Halo 5 Bundle + $299.

No way Sony can top that.

But would MS actually bundle a new Halo game?

MS don't intend to make profits with the Xbox One in holiday not once in this generation?

 

[autoduelist]

Its pretty obvious. Gamescom this year is closer to E3.
Even if Sony held a conference, there would be nothing new to announce from the E3, since they're really close. Its better not to hold a conference if its obviously going to be "meh" because of no new stuff announced.

So they moved their conference to Paris so they have more time to get new stuff to announce.

Sounds quite logical to me. Its not like Sony's suddenly not taking the Germany market seriously, like some people are saying.
And I also think we can expect Sony's intending to go all in at E3 and not intentionally save stuff for conferences afterwards.

Regarding the bolded, it's more that they want to space out announcements so they can keep a nice tide of hype going. They probably know most of the announcements for both already. That is, they aren't using the time to 'get new stuff'... they already have the stuff, they just want to time the announcements better for us.

 

[orochi91]

They already said Halo 5 is getting a custom bundle.

So basically an expensive bundle with all the Halo bling-bling.

Can't see that Halo bundle moving the needle at all if it isn't at $299.

PS4 + MGS 5 @ $299

PS4 + Star Wars: Battlefront @ $299

PS4 + Sony IP @ $299

The possibilities are endless, but Sony needs to hit that crucial $299 price point.

MS don't intend to make profits with the Xbox One in holiday not once in this generation?

I think MS desperately wants to maintain its market share, at the expense of profits during the holidays.

They probably intend to recoup costs through subscriptions/services/software :/

 

[2thepoint]

It honestly has little to do with any of that. These conferences aren't just about announcing new games, but promoting your platform. Gamescom is just poorly positioned this year unfortunately. From the end of November until January, you have the biggest period of the year in terms of sales. This media briefing is the answer to that age old question, "What does Sony have for the holidays?" It turns out they have words.

At least you know what people are going to look forward to now if TLG isn't shown at E3.

Edit:

Oh wait. I forgot. There's that one show called, TGS. But no one really expects TLG there, ever.

Edit 2:

It's not that I forgot, but that TGS sucks.

Edit 3:

Okay. Maybe I did forget.

Edit 4:

This is probably a sign of Alzheimer's.

Verendus, just say TLG is dead and we can all move on.

The pain is too much.

I don't want to be old, wrinkly, and tired when this game is finally announced / killed.

 

[wapplew]

PS4 slim 299!

 

[Nightengale]

Can't see that Halo bundle moving the needle at all if it isn't at $299.

Limited edition bundles of hot properties often sell like hotcakes.

 

[The Last One]

Can't see that Halo bundle moving the needle at all if it isn't at $299.

PS4 + MGS 5 @ $299

PS4 + Star Wars: Battlefront @ $299

PS4 + Sony IP @ $299

The possibilities are endless, but Sony needs to hit that crucial $299 price point.

If Sony indeed announce a price cut in their conference I really can't see the bundles with so low prices. Maybe bundles for $350?

 

[le-seb]

And I also think we can expect Sony's intending to go all in at E3 and not intentionally save stuff for conferences afterwards.

They'll want to save something for the press conference at PGW, though.
So, it probably won't change much.

 

[orochi91]

Limited edition bundles of hot properties often sell like hotcakes.

Not unless there's a Star Wars + PS4 combo to combat that Halo bundle :3

If Sony indeed announce a price cut in their conference I really can't see the bundles with so los prices. Maybe bundle for $350?

~$350 seems high even with bundled games, but I could see that happening.

Sony loves profits, even if they could have potentially increased market share during holidays :/

 

[Soultaker0220]

Disappointing in the sense that it's always good to have hype trains going (even if they often derail), but I can understand that a 6 week delay between E3 and Gamescom isn't much... And that will make E3 that much more important imo.

It all comes down to E3 then, if E3 does not deliver then not having a Gamescom conference is a bad choice. I was at psx last year and I would love to see them repeat that but, right now I don't know if the conference (psx) will happen and even if it does I'm not sure it will be as good as last year. Sony have TGS too. Will be fun to see what they are going to show during these different events.

 

[AmuroChan]

Can't see that Halo bundle moving the needle at all if it isn't at $299.

PS4 + MGS 5 @ $299

PS4 + Star Wars: Battlefront @ $299

PS4 + Sony IP @ $299

The possibilities are endless, but Sony needs to hit that crucial $299 price point.

I don't know what the Sony execs may be thinking, but it's crazy to think that there's a possibility that they feel the need to drop the price of the PS4 by $100 AND include a free game, even though it's still selling at a historic rate.

 

[BadWolf]

If Sony indeed announce a price cut in their conference I really can't see the bundles with so low prices. Maybe bundles for $350?

If the console's price drops to $299 then a console+game bundle for $350 really isn't much of a deal.

 

[ZarKryn7]

So we should see more of WiLD from wild sheep studios and whatever Quantic Dream's new IP is since they're both France studios.

 

[orochi91]

I don't know what the Sony execs may be thinking, but it's crazy to think that there's a possibility that they feel the need to drop the price of the PS4 by $100 AND include a free game, even though it's still selling at a historic rate.

I was under the impression PS4 sales momentum was slowing down, given the sizable decrease in sales in March NPD.

Despite Bloodborne releasing, PS4 sales declined YoY.

If not a bundle at $299, then at least the stand alone version should be at that price.

If the console's price drops to $299 then a console+game bundle for $350 really isn't much of a deal.

That's true.

 

[Chobel]

I don't know what the Sony execs may be thinking, but it's crazy to think that there's a possibility that they feel the need to drop the price of the PS4 by $100 AND include a free game, even though it's still selling at a historic rate.

PS2 was selling better.

 

[Nightengale]

It all comes down to E3 then, if E3 does not deliver then not having a Gamescom conference is a bad choice. I was at psx last year and I would love to see them repeat that but, right now I don't know if the conference (psx) will happen and even if it does I'm not sure it will be as good as last year. Sony have TGS too. Will be fun to see what they are going to show during these different events.

 

[orochi91]

Lol

 

[Dragonborn]

Not unless there's a Star Wars + PS4 combo to combat that Halo bundle :3



~$350 seems high even with bundled games, but I could see that happening.

Sony loves profits, even if they could have potentially increased market share during holidays :/

They will increase their market share significantly during the holidays anyways. MS may close the gap a bit in the US again, but they'll go right back to making it larger again after the holidays.

A $349 Battlefront bundle would be more than enough to counteract a $299 X1.

If both hit $299, then MS will have to go lower because Halo 5 or not, the X1 will not do well at the same price. We've already seen this before.

 

[Kölsch Bloot]

I see some people calling the gamescom's executives choice to hold gamescom only six weeks after E3 is done "stupid". But it is all about maximizing profits. North Rhine-Westphalia's vacations end on August 12.

Thus said: gamescom 2016 will be on from August 17-21

 

[anexanhume]

They already said Halo 5 is getting a custom bundle.

So basically an expensive bundle with all the Halo bling-bling.

The Halo 4 Xbox 360 bundle was the same price as the premium 360 SKU, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was just the normal cost with Halo 5 bundled.

 

[AmuroChan]

I was under the impression PS4 sales momentum was slowing down, given the sizable decrease in sales in March NPD.

Despite Bloodborne releasing, PS4 sales declined YoY.

Still has beaten their primary competition every month in NPD so far this year if I remember correctly. I'm not saying $299 won't happen. I just feel like given Sony's track record and current financial situation, a $100 price drop seems a little too soon.

 

[orochi91]

They will increase their market share significantly during the holidays anyways. MS may close the gap a bit in the US again, but they'll go right back to making it larger again after the holidays.

Good points, especially this part.

It's really odd though, because I can't help but feel that Sony could have dealt MS a debilitating blow in NA several times by now.

They refuse to do it.

I'm not saying $299 won't happen. I just feel like given Sony's track record and current financial situation, a $100 price drop seems a little too soon.

Oh shit, I had completely forgotten about the overall financial health of the company XD

 

[Nightengale]

The Halo 4 Xbox 360 bundle was the same price as the premium 360 SKU, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was just the normal cost with Halo 5 bundled.

Maybe, but I expect them to repeat last year's successful bundle strategy... because well, successful.

Premier Custom Bundle : Halo 5 Bundle (Base Price + $50/60)
Mainstream 2 Game Bundle : Lara Croft Cries & Rise Bundle (Base Price)
White Console Bundle : ... Third-Party Marketing Game Bundle. (Division, or whatever) (Base Price)

 

[The Mad Draklor]

This is interesting considering Paris Games Week is when Halo 5 comes out. I guess this means Sony is going to do a price cut to combat the Halo effect?

 

[Shin-Ra]

I just want to see more of the game WiLD

Michel Ancel représenter!

 

[ZarKryn7]

I too wanna see more WiLD.

 

[Cereal Enthusiast]

PS4 slim 299!

PS4 Slim is next year with Gran Turismo 7.

 

[Cereal Enthusiast]

This is interesting considering Paris Games Week is when Halo 5 comes out. I guess this means Sony is going to do a price cut to combat the Halo effect?

In France they don't need to do anything, nobody gives a shit about Halo.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

 

[TomShoe]

So...

E3

TGS

Paris

PSX

 

[Nightengale]

Speaking of Wild, I find it somewhat funny two of Ubisoft's superstar devs (one former) are both making prehistoric games.

Michel Ancel : Wild
Patrice Desilets : Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey

And both also has games stuck in development hell. (1666 because fuck Ubisoft and BGaE2... also because fuck Ubisoft)

 

[AmuroChan]

I just want to see more of the game WiLD

Seems like the perfect game to showcase at PGW since Michel Ancel is French. Same thing applies for Quantic Dream's new game.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

No, because E3 and gamescom are only six weeks apart this year. They moved the conference to the Paris Games Week (which takes place in October).

Yeah, makes sense.

 

[Gskyace]

Concerns:
PGW doesn't even have an english website, as far as I search on google and their French site.
gamescom is too close to Chinajoy.

 

[Acquiescence]

So...

E3

TGS

Paris

PSX

Yep. Not much of a gap between the latter two either, assuming PSX is on the same time as last year.

 

[gizio]

Sonys official statement: es tut mir Leid!

 

[TheStruggler]

Whoa, that's big... Are they just going to go crazy at E3?

that or I am worried they just dont have anything to show, hope it because they are going all out though :/

No, because E3 and gamescom are only six weeks apart this year. They moved the conference to the Paris Games Week (which takes place in October).

Never mind

 

[KAL2006]

That means no PSX as well right?. If they have Paris conference at October isn't that close to PSX which is on the fall.

 

[le-seb]

Seems like the perfect game to showcase at PGW since Michel Ancel is French. Same thing applies for Quantic Dream's new game.

Well, Ubisoft and Thrustmaster (both held by some of the Guillemot brothers) are also French.
Does this mean we'll hear from them at the conference, too?

 

[TomShoe]

snip

Damn man. If you're going to post a pepe, at least post a rare one.

 

[Ensirius]

I think Sony's E3 could be something spectacular this year.

Announce 25 mil sold.
Price drop.
Last Guardian.

Spoiler

please?

 

[anexanhume]

Maybe, but I expect them to repeat last year's successful bundle strategy... because well, successful.

Premier Custom Bundle : Halo 5 Bundle (Base Price + $50/60)
Mainstream 2 Game Bundle : Lara Croft Cries & Rise Bundle (Base Price)
White Console Bundle : ... Third-Party Marketing Game Bundle. (Division, or whatever) (Base Price)

Maybe. It depends what their goals are, their margins, and what they think Sony will do. If Sony does a full $100 instead of $50 price drop, they'll have to be more aggressive.

Personally, I'm skeptical that Sony can make a profit on a $300 MSRP. We'll see.

 

[Philippo]

E3 for Fall to next Spring games, PGW/PSX for next year ones.

Seems legit.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Kinda funny considering people were saying gamescom was bigger than e3. Attendence maybe overral e3 is still the main event.

 

[Ushay]

Literally too good for Gamescom. Shame really.

I'm guessing they have some big announcements lined up, just not in time for Gamescom, in that context I can understand.

 

[DieH@rd]

As long they don't bork the Paris show, I'm not mad for this change.

Wonder what this means for the argument some people were having recently about which conference held more weight, E3 or Gamescom?

Btw, they probably did this because PlayStation Meeting is yearly now.

Playstation Meeting is a rare event where they announce new hardware [they did it for NGP and PS4]. In december Sony has PlayStation Experience.

 

[mrklaw]

No Gamescom press conference? Instead they're doing some separate thing in Paris? Are they inseine?

 

[janoDX]

Sonys in Paris