Is there a droid noise at the end of the bodega scene? The same droids from empire strikes back on hoth?
How involved is Lucas? Is there any reason to fear the dialogue and story will be just as awful as the prequels? Because that teaser trailer actually looked pretty good. As in it looked like something from an actual movie.
How involved is Lucas? Is there any reason to fear the dialogue and story will be just as awful as the prequels? Because that teaser trailer actually looked pretty good. As in it looked like something from an actual movie.
how could you even begin to assume any of this without actually seeing the movie. wtf?
It could easily be about some rogue sith dickhead that doesnt follow any of the Jedi ideals and tries to modify a saber to how he wants it.
Most likely this, yes. Even if they are from different scenes. Everything in this trailer is VERY early and it's practically guaranteed that the final versions of every shot in this trailer will be noticeably different.Unfinished 3d model for cgi shot.
How involved is Lucas? Is there any reason to fear the dialogue and story will be just as awful as the prequels? Because that teaser trailer actually looked pretty good. As in it looked like something from an actual movie.
My argument is basically that everything wrong with Revenge of the Sith is due to either lack of vision on Lucas's part (Grievous vs. Kenobi) or having to follow the other two films (the actors, in particular). That being said, the story is still of a very high quality, especially when compared to the two prior films, and I'd argue it comes pretty darn close to matching the Original Trilogy. I think the dialogue is actually pretty stellar on the whole, which is surprising. Also, the actors end up bringing their A game, even if they're not all my ideal choices for some of those roles. I just don't think there's all that much wrong with the movie, and it has the unfortunate status of being a part of the Prequel Trilogy, which keeps people from realizing just how good it is.
Why are people comparing the Ball Droid to JarJar.
It's the new R2D2.
Also, Star Wars fan are a hella tough crowd. No wonder George just said, "Fuck it, I'm selling this".
For people who know about the canon, what happened to the clone idea for stormtroopers? Are some of them clones and some of them real people? Were the clones in Episode 2 a different kind of soldier/army than the future stormtroopers? I remember them having different armor/helmets etc.
Or just at different points in the movie.
well dude sending the tweets is dumb af, and clearly doesnt know Star Wars lore. the Clone DNA broke down during the years between ep. III and ep. IV, so the Empire started recruiting HUMAN volunteers and forcing others into the storm trooper forces. so there is next to no actual clone troopers left by ep. IV which is why the storm troopers have different voices and heights are inconsistent.
For people who know about the canon, what happened to the clone idea for stormtroopers? Are some of them clones and some of them real people? Are were the clones in Episode 2 a different kind of soldier/army than the future stormtroopers? I remember them having different armor/helmets etc.
I think it is 3 small edits away from being a classic and those are simply within Padme and Anakin scenes. The one where she is on the balcony is obviously a reshoot and is completely unnecessary to the film and the edit without it would work better.
Ironically Phantom Menace needs a few lines cut back in to fix a few plot holes (like why there is only one droid control ship) but it too could lose a simple scene or two for pacing (like when Anakin goes to see Padme to say goodbye in Corusant)
For people who know about the canon, what happened to the clone idea for stormtroopers? Are some of them clones and some of them real people? Were the clones in Episode 2 a different kind of soldier/army than the future stormtroopers? I remember them having different armor/helmets etc.
I really don't blame him either.
Yeah but people on twitter and youtube are sub-human anyway so I wasn't too concerned about what was said there.And most who have realized and pointed it out have done it for the wrong reasons (see twitter/yt comments)
I think it is 3 small edits away from being a classic and those are simply within Padme and Anakin scenes. The one where she is on the balcony is obviously a reshoot and is completely unnecessary to the film and the edit without it would work better.
Ironically Phantom Menace needs a few lines cut back in to fix a few plot holes (like why there is only one droid control ship) but it too could lose a simple scene or two for pacing (like when Anakin goes to see Padme to say goodbye in Corusant)
My argument is basically that everything wrong with Revenge of the Sith is due to either lack of vision on Lucas's part (Grievous vs. Kenobi) or having to follow the other two films (the actors, in particular). That being said, the story is still of a very high quality, especially when compared to the two prior films, and I'd argue it comes pretty darn close to matching the Original Trilogy. I think the dialogue is actually pretty stellar on the whole, which is surprising. Also, the actors end up bringing their A game, even if they're not all my ideal choices for some of those roles. I just don't think there's all that much wrong with the movie, and it has the unfortunate status of being a part of the Prequel Trilogy, which keeps people from realizing just how good it is.
I agree that the burden of the other two movies is evident but the movie has problems of it's own.
Dialogue might not be as bad as Attack of the Clones but it isn't good. They still don't sound like real people and when they try to be dramatic it falls flat most of the time. The whole Anakin turn to the dark side is done way to fast, he goes from being a caring husband to killing children and choking is wife in the span of a few scenes and characters are still paper thin when it comes to personality.
It's the better directed movie out of the three but apart from a view scenes it still feels like Lucas is shooting every dialogue scene the same way and it still lacks variety.
Also, the duel between Anakin and Obi Wan still drags on for too long and it's too cartoony and ectic. It doesn't feel as tense as the ones on the original trilogy because they just flail their ligthsabers at each other for 40 minutes while doing acrobatics and cartoony jumps.
It's better than the other two and it doesn't improve on some things (mostly the story structure and pacing) but it's not a masterpiece and I don't think it's even that great. It's a decent movie with some cool ideas and the backing of an amazing universe and a 30 year backstory.
Thought the exact same thing.I thought the teaser was pretty average. The first few scenes looked fan-filmy.
Clones are real people too!
Was the whole idea that the stormtroopers in the original trilogy were still clones?
Because didn't they redub them with Temuera Morrison? Or was that just boba fett? I thought the "close the blast doors" was redubbed but maybe not.
Or they were just people by then?
I'm not racist, but that trailer was definitely intended to get people excited for the upcoming Star Wars film.
That's a bit sexist.I'm not racist, but that trailer was definitely intended to get people excited for the upcoming Star Wars film.
I'm not racist, but that trailer was definitely intended to get people excited for the upcoming Star Wars film.
...I grew up on the original trilogy thank you. Fuck off with assumptions.
To me, Phantom Menace's biggest issue is that it flies in the face of a lot of what A New Hope implied. I really think that Anakin and Obi-Wan should've met in the prelude to the Clone Wars, the former as a Padawan who had just finished his training and also happened to be a skilled pilot. Focusing on Anakin at such a young age was a huge mistake, and it makes everything seem a little odd with regards to a lot of interactions in the Prequel Trilogy and also with regards to Obi-Wan in A New Hope.
I just thought, at the end of Jedi the dish on the Falcon gets smashed off. Hence the new one!
I agree that the burden of the other two movies is evident but the movie has problems of it's own.
Dialogue might not be as bad as Attack of the Clones but it isn't good. They still don't sound like real people and when they try to be dramatic it falls flat most of the time. The whole Anakin turn to the dark side is done way to fast, he goes from being a caring husband to killing children and choking is wife in the span of a few scenes and characters are still paper thin when it comes to personality.
I think all three prequels are a few strategic edits/reshoots away from being "okay" movies, but 2 or 3 more drafts from being classics. There are just fundamental problems with all three - though the basic concepts are good and with more time in development (plus a stronger writer and director) they could've been great.
That's definitely not his voice.Was that Von Sydow's voice in the trailer?
I still think he's some ancient Sith lord, or at least someone familiar with the dark side of the force, that corrupts some young Vader acolyte (Driver).
Clones are real people too!
Was the whole idea that the stormtroopers in the original trilogy were still clones?
Because didn't they redub them with Temuera Morrison? Or was that just boba fett? I thought the "close the blast doors" was redubbed but maybe not.
Or they were just people by then?