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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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MiguelMexMIstery
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Ouch D: That kills the dream of Chrom DLC.
Anyways, huge thanks for the translation!
Hahaha, beat me to the punch.
Conceptually, I don't think it sounds terrible. However, Ridley, Mewtwo, or K. Rool as playable bosses sound absolutely terrible; I'm REALLY hoping it's not a thing just because those 3 are amongst most wanted, with Ridley & K. Rool literally being #1 & #4 respectively. Please don't take Ridley away from me!
Mr. Smiley
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Masahiro-Sakurai said:
shut down by sakurai gotdamn
Shadow Hog
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Okay, I might be being a bit nitpicky here, but there's supposed to be a pixel's width between the background and the shadow.How's this? Totally let me know if you want a different color. Really only takes a minute to do.
If it helps any, this Twitter image has all of them aligned correctly at 1x scale.
(Also, that's not Robin's background color; it's supposed to be purple.)
It hurts even more now, because Anna would've been: an FE staple, a woman, a unique fighter. Lucina is just scraps.
OricWindstar
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Thanks for the translation! Very interesting stuff. Interesting that he did indeed consider her for an alternate costume and it sounds like, aside from that small change, she basically is. At least for those that aren't fond of her inclusion, she probably didn't take up much development time.So, I managed to get my hands on a copy of this week's edition of Sakurai's "Think About the Video Games" column (thanks, Ryce!). Enjoy!
I can only hope. One of my fav Brawl characters and reps my favorite game of all time, I will be crushed if he's not in the game.
that leak is mega ultra super gamefaqs 12 year old wrote it fake but i presume he means dixie is a diddy clone
I think it's more that he was intending for Robin and no Lucina, but then decided to make Lucina anyways.
Glad to hear that the thing about her being in only because a different character got cut was fake! Might mean more clones are on the way
.Good read, thanks!So, I managed to get my hands on a copy of this week's edition of Sakurai's "Think About the Video Games" column (thanks, Ryce!). Enjoy!
I sure as hell hope so!
Chrom has the right idea, off to sleep for me!
At least her omnipresent nature will mean she's a likely choice for future Smash games.
MiguelMexMIstery
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If you guys had to decide between Roy or Lucina for Marth's clone in the game, who would you choose?
Sigh. Yeah, she'd have been perfect. I'm fine with Lucina as a compromise, though, assuming that we really couldn't have had another unique fighter.
This isn't even a question. Lucina ten times out of ten.
Mr. Smiley
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lol
Yeah that's something that makes me scratch my head. Why not have Chrom be a Marth clone, but have the sword be balanced?
OricWindstar
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The color was Moonlight's choice, but as for the pixel shadow spacing...how DARE you critique my work. You think you're so cool? Well, you're not! I hate you!!!
I'm nit picky too. Going to go fix it. Thanks!
Freezie KO
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I was just thinking about the level Smash will have to operate at. For example, players trying to assemble local tourneys, building community hype, etc., I'm not sure if Chess is spectator-friendly in that sense. But fair point. It may be a bad example.
JB-the-Hunter said:
That's fair. I just meant that it is indeed exciting and thrilling to watch. If they got rid of wave-dashing (which really causes some of that jerky motion), I'd be fine with that. Dash dancing causes a bit of it, but that mechanic is important for mind games as well as movement. Cancelling moves in general also causes "jerky" animation, but it's pretty important in fighters.
Lucina. I was hoping for her anyway, and I actually played her game. Also... she decides her fate.
Lord_Byron28
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Yeah I love that Lucina was included but the differences between her and Marth are ridiculously small. I wish they would've had slightly different stats like Lucina being lighter, faster and more airborne to go a long with the uniform damage window.
It seems like she is literally just a casual version of Marth for players to eventually graduate from her to Marth.
kuroneko0509
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So, I managed to get my hands on a copy of this week's edition of Sakurai's "Think About the Video Games" column (thanks, Ryce!). Enjoy!
Again, thanks for the translation again. So Chrom was cut because it's really similar to others lol
Karsticles
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Development time.
The Great Gonzales
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Because it makes more sense for Chrom to be in Robin's FS than Lucina.
That's strange: I would have thought Marth's tip would be more powerful than anything Lucina has - that Lucina's power is midway between Marth's tip and the rest of his sword - but this quote seems to indicate otherwise. Could it be an unclear translation? I know that's kind of a lame excuse, but it doesn't make sense to me that Lucina would have Marth's maximum power all along her blade.
SenorArdilla
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Chrom wasn't the one that was going to get put in as a Marth alt until the Sak changed his mind.
sorakirosaki
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well he did say almost similar by how much remains to be seen really
I was thinking Lucina might be faster than Marth so she wouldn't be objectively worse for skilled players.
Given what Sakurai said though, it sounds like she will be worse unless a slightly small hitbox helps. Less knockback near Marth means better combo and better kill potential, and Lucina will have neither? Or am I missing something? *edit* I see someone asking just before me if she is better. I think the argument is that Marth would be better since he can choose between knockback/kill and combo potential, and Lucina cannot choose.
It seems a little odd if a fighter is specifically designed to be easy but worse, but I suppose it's not the end of the world.
Given what Sakurai said though, it sounds like she will be worse unless a slightly small hitbox helps. Less knockback near Marth means better combo and better kill potential, and Lucina will have neither? Or am I missing something? *edit* I see someone asking just before me if she is better. I think the argument is that Marth would be better since he can choose between knockback/kill and combo potential, and Lucina cannot choose.
It seems a little odd if a fighter is specifically designed to be easy but worse, but I suppose it's not the end of the world.
Freezie KO
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Maybe Lucina does electrical damage to herself when she does attacks.
Mr. Smiley
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Easier for less experienced players, but not better.
I'm clearly not understanding the difference between the two of them.
The way I'm interpreting this is that Lucina will do the same amount of damage that Marth would do with the tip of his sword across the entire length of her blade...and with a smaller hitbox as well. That would make her better.
But then again, Ken already said he wants to play Lucina.
I think it'll be a case of a character like Shen from KoF XIII who is easy to play with for beginners, but expert players also use him.
Wavedashing is a fun mechanic. Why should looks be prioritized over fun? I thought Nintendo fans always argued against that.
Great Puma
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Lucina! My favorite character from FE:A. Loved her story.
I would look at it like this
Marth's tip does the most damage, then all of lucina's blade, then the rest of Marth's blade. So if his tip is a 10 and the rest is a 5, Lucina would be a 7 or so across the board. But it's hard to look at it without knockback values and stuff.
Mr. Smiley
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Marth's tip does greater damage than all of Lucina's blade.
OricWindstar
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Haha, well played.
Lucina.
Poor Chrom. ):
Marth should do more damage than Lucina when players hit with the tip of the sword.
Lucina should do more damage than Marth when players hit with the other sections of the sword (more length).
So Lucina is better for beginners.
At least that's how I read it.
Marth should do more damage than Lucina when players hit with the tip of the sword.
Lucina should do more damage than Marth when players hit with the other sections of the sword (more length).
So Lucina is better for beginners.
At least that's how I read it.
I think when Sakurai is talking about 'unique characteristics', there's more to think about than just mechanical differences. Chrom wouldn't have had much in that regard - he's another blue haired sword-wielding male with very little distinguishing about him in many other regards and would have likely been a clone if it was really between him and Lucina. Even Roy, at least, had characteristics like his red hair to make him appear more distinct than Marth. Given that situation, opting for Lucina instead, who is, admittedly, still a blue-haired sword-wielder, makes more sense in the toss-up, because at least she has stuff like the mask and her gender to make her 'feel' like more of a distinct character than the previous two FE veterans.
MrSaturn99
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Thanks for the translation, Masked Man.
So I guess this means Chrom wasn't in development at all?
So I guess this means Chrom wasn't in development at all?
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