Right?!! Can't wait for more details!! (am also a sucker for new hardware...who isn't right)....although if MS does announce some type of higher end box....the details of that box (i.e.,Vive or Oculus Rift support) and what they commit to regarding MS published software (i.e., will Halo 6 be day 1 on PC) will ultimately help me make a decision on whether to get the new Xbox console vs. a new high end gaming PC...
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The Verge: Microsoft 'has been testing a variety of prototype Xbox devices'
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Right?!! Can't wait for more details!! (am also a sucker for new hardware...who isn't right)....although if MS does announce some type of higher end box....the details of that box (i.e.,Vive or Oculus Rift support) and what they commit to regarding MS published software (i.e., will Halo 6 be day 1 on PC) will ultimately help me make a decision on whether to get the new Xbox console vs. a new high end gaming PC...
Well, it has become obvious that Sony is doing it. Microsoft really doesn't have a choice here.
If I were MS :
oculus support
Steam support:
Cross buy xbox and Windows 10
Elite Controller
A leap in hardware upgrade. A big one.
Sell X1 for 249
Forward compatible games.Just like PC. The game performance Will depend on your hardware.
Name it Xbox 10 or X
4k gaming.
Price 599
Again, just like PC. Medium to Ultra. Same game.
oculus support
Steam support:
Cross buy xbox and Windows 10
Elite Controller
A leap in hardware upgrade. A big one.
Sell X1 for 249
Forward compatible games.Just like PC. The game performance Will depend on your hardware.
Name it Xbox 10 or X
4k gaming.
Price 599
Again, just like PC. Medium to Ultra. Same game.
According to his own statements, it could only be one of 3 things:
1) Incremental upgrade (which he is now saying he is against after describing that very process originally)
2) Brand new gen equivalent, with such a jump that it effectively renders the XB1 obsolete
3) a Win10 HTPC equivalent, which is honestly where I think they have been heading, but it seems a tad early to make that jump.
There will be a LOT of teeth gnashing and backlash when reality sets in imo, even though the move appears both logical and inevitable (at least to me).
Not gonna happen
digoutyoursoul
Member
Gut feeling is that it's a slim model of the current version and nothing more. I have learned to cool expectations when it comes to the Xbox division over the last four-five years. I would be surprised at any substantial cpu/gpu upgrade.
If they take the leap to be a big step in front of what Sony is doing with the NEO upgrade, and they do it in the same time frame then the system is going to be prohibitively expensive.
I know some of the hardcore here are shouting for Oculus support built in but a PC that gets you that is what, $800 at best?
So it's either a small bump, similar to Sony in a similar timeframe at a similar price, effectively an Xbox 1.5, or if Phil is true to his word it's an $800+ monster box.
I know some of the hardcore here are shouting for Oculus support built in but a PC that gets you that is what, $800 at best?
So it's either a small bump, similar to Sony in a similar timeframe at a similar price, effectively an Xbox 1.5, or if Phil is true to his word it's an $800+ monster box.
You never know. It could work out just like a PC if they are building it. You can't say no to steam on a Windows 10 box. Its Windows after all.
This way they will capture lots of customers.
People who wants to upgrade
New comers
Old PC users
PC to console like PC
And of course, mouse and keyboard support.
I think they'll come out with several new Xbox Ones. A dGPU one and a single but upgraded one. Why? Just cuz a man can dream. LOL. A premium version and a new version.
Xbox One : Our current version
Xbox One + : Smaller but more powerful version (PS4.5 equivalent)
Xbox One Pro : Everything from XBO+ but with Elite Controller and dGPU (Premium price)
Xbox One : Our current version
Xbox One + : Smaller but more powerful version (PS4.5 equivalent)
Xbox One Pro : Everything from XBO+ but with Elite Controller and dGPU (Premium price)
Filthy Casual
Member
I really hope they blow it out of the park with whatever they do.
I'd be more inclined to buy an improved Xbox than another PS4 because at least then I'll be in two ecosystems and have access to two sets of exclusive games.
Plus I did always have a smooth experience with my 360.
I'd be more inclined to buy an improved Xbox than another PS4 because at least then I'll be in two ecosystems and have access to two sets of exclusive games.
Plus I did always have a smooth experience with my 360.
AtomicShroom
Member
It only makes sense. They have no choice but to compete with whatever Sony does. They'd be crazy dumb not to. They can't just leave the door wide open for Sony to take.
You say this as if Sonys idea is a good thing and guaranteed to be a sucess
If the above were to happen, I'd see the prices I added as reasonable.
...Scatter...
Banned
You guys asking for steam support.... I can't. Why would MS give up their margin to support Steam? They make money on selling software. They don't make much money on the hardware.
Samurai G0SU
Member
next step would to convince valve to make steam into a uwp and then convince all the other devs to make a uwp version of their game already in steam.
If they do go this route, they still have a lot of work to do and swade devs to make a uwp of their games.
idk maybe im wrong cause i dont know much about dev processes and just going by what i've heard.
Why in hell would they want to support Steam on their Xbox console?
Dirtyshubb
Member
Fixed
All he was saying is that they wont come out and say "Here is a slightly better version of the console you could already buy", instead it will be something like "Our brand new, totally different, super powerful X Box Two".
The main reason he said what he did in my mind is because they saw the backlash Sony were getting from some hardcore fans and wanted to avoid that, plus not revealing their hand by basically announcing their plans outright.
He should say more things people don't want to hear.
Because Microsoft want you to buy their hardware they make little profit on and then give Valve money for games!
Oh wait . They don't want that at all
CyberPunked
Member
Yeah, I think 4K gaming on a console is more likely. The joke being the probability of that is zero.
It does seem that Sony is catching and largely surpassing Microsoft in the screwing up their marketing and loyal userbase contest.
Why name it + or Pro? Just name it like they already did with regions/countries. The Tier 1 console, Tier 2 and Tier 3 for the poor and sad people.
Of course it does. Just because Sony is doing a mistake you don't have to do it as well. But hey I'm not a marketing guru.
Phil Spencer said:
Is there really that much room for interpretation with what he's said?
I suggest you go google what he said and read it very carefully then you will know to remove your comment.
LordBaztion
Member
I think they will release a more significant upgrade than PS4K is next year.
speedomodel
Member
If they have a substantially more power option or slimmer version for a good price, I can see myself biting. Excited to see what they announce.
LordBaztion
Member
I actually think PS4K is a response to W10, it basically changed the console space since most likely MS won't ever change the OS in their console (or at least won't until the whole MS migrate toa new version of Windows. It guarantees a continued compatibility to the console similar to PC and Sony couldn't stay behind.
Probably they are developing the X1.5 alongside developers to take full advantage of UWA.
All this says to me is Microsoft is not close to launching new upgraded hardware. Maybe by the Fall they lock in the specs and start getting dev kits to developers.
It would be interesting to see if a new Xbox One would be announced in October though. Microsoft usually holds an event in October for Surface and with the Surface team now doing hardware for Xbox I think it's a possibility.
It would be interesting to see if a new Xbox One would be announced in October though. Microsoft usually holds an event in October for Surface and with the Surface team now doing hardware for Xbox I think it's a possibility.
odhiex
Member
A next XBOX console through halfway of the generation?
They already said that all new substantial hardware upgrades will be with Redstone 2 next Spring. They'll probably do a new Suface, but not a Surface Pro or Surface Book until next Spring. So does this mean they wait until then for a Xbox 2? Dunno?
qa_engineer
Member
And the console gods said, "let there be hardware revisions mid life cycle." And it was so.
they want people to buy it though
Generational console looks dead. Upgrade is going to be new consoles going forward.
What's the difference between a upgrade console and a new upgrade console?
And it sell at that price with all the bells and whistles. It makes the current PS4 look that much cheaper.
9.1/10.1
OhNoDangerItsaPentagonRun
Banned
Consoles were you can buy a new chip every couple years from $50-$200 to increase graphics.
Don't know whether or not I like that idea or not.
Might also bring back shareware games.
Don't know whether or not I like that idea or not.
Might also bring back shareware games.
Compsiox
Banned
Too many ones
Samurai G0SU
Member
It's just going to be hard to get sales for these new boxes, there has to be a very good reason to upgrade right now. more power doesn't win, i think.
Pjsprojects
Member
infinit777
Member
To be fair, he said he didn't want it to be .5 he wanted a significant step up.
Possumowner
Member
Very interesting to see what route MS takes.Maybe go for brute power and outdo Sony.Or add Occulus support,make it Slim.Price obviously important to.
Either way whatever happens,they'll be some cheap Ps4s and Xbox One's going once these come out
Either way whatever happens,they'll be some cheap Ps4s and Xbox One's going once these come out
gaming_noob
Member
I'm ready. Launch it with a Perfect Dark or Banjo.