Done. Yes the ladies reaction were exemplar.
Easy victims to pick on. Bigots are usually cowards who won't pick on someone their own size.If I remember correctly, none (or at least very few) of these terrorist acts were even commited by women.
It's almost as if people are acting irrationally...
Why is it the job of innocent people being discriminated against to make racists feel better?There must be a real air of fear in France for people to act to reactionary.
Maybe this is a time for moderate Islam to try calm fears.
Easy victims to pick on. Bigots are usually cowards who won't pick on someone their own size.
Nah bigots and racists finally stopped pretending.There must be a real air of fear in France for people to act to reactionary.
Maybe this is a time for moderate Islam to try calm fears.
France, your ethnocentrism is showing (again...).
Well what that guy did was generalize the behaviour of a handful to a whole population. You just did it, too.
heh, guy probably searched the name of his restaurant on google
"I just called : "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I lost it yesterday, I apologize to the Muslim world. I don't know what got into me, if you're a muslim you are welcome, I apologized to the ladies after that..."
Hmmmm, he saw he lost his turnover or something ?"
also opening a business in Seine-Saint Denis when you're a racist is a really stupid thing to do
I don't think it's representative of the general mood (and I hope it's not, this case is just stupid).There must be a real air of fear in France for people to act to reactionary.
It's always time for more moderate religions, but I don't think "calming fears" is a sound reason.Maybe this is a time for moderate Islam to try calm fears.
Maybe Trump should trying running in France are he gets destroyed in the US general election.
No thanks, we already have way to much racist nutjobs among our politicians.Maybe Trump should trying running in France are he gets destroyed in the US general election.
eh, it's up to the restuarant. future bookings and income will prove whether they were correct or not.
I disagree with them, btw.
...and this type of behavior is what happens when two extremely different cultures clashes. There's a reason for the old saying "When in Rome, do as romans do"; reason that held true a thousand years ago as it is true today: to keep everyone in peace and not create a cultural clash.
...and this type of behavior is what happens when two extremely different cultures clashes. There's a reason for the old saying "When in Rome, do as romans do"; reason that held true a thousand years ago as it is true today: to keep everyone in peace and not create a cultural clash.
You mean to say these innocent women should subscribe to a French culture that has been historically responsible for genocides and regional destabilization?...and this type of behavior is what happens when two extremely different cultures clashes. There's a reason for the old saying "When in Rome, do as romans do"; reason that held true a thousand years ago as it is true today: to keep everyone in peace and not create a cultural clash.
You mean to say these innocent women should subscribe to a French culture that has been historically responsible for genocides and regional destabilization?
Or perhaps you were trying to say something else?
What I'm trying to say is that if they live in France, they should subscribe to the local culture as close as possible in public in order to avoid conflict.
It's, for example, like going to Iran or Russia with an american flag, speak american english out loud and still be confident that you won't be frown upon (at the very least), or go to the "boca" neighbourhood in Buenos Aires wearing a River Plate t-shirt: it's just asking for trouble.
You're not exactly painting France in a good light here with those comparisons...sounds more like a totalitarian state that you'd be happy with where everyone has to act a certain way so no one gets hurt. These muslims were just asking for trouble, right?What I'm trying to say is that if they live in France, they should subscribe to the local culture as close as possible in public in order to avoid conflict.
It's, for example, like going to Iran or Russia with an american flag, speak american english out loud and still be confident that you won't be frown upon (at the very least), or go to the "boca" neighbourhood in Buenos Aires wearing a River Plate t-shirt: it's just asking for trouble.
What I'm trying to say is that if they live in France, they should subscribe to the local culture as close as possible in public in order to avoid conflict.
It's, for example, like going to Iran or Russia with an american flag, speak american english out loud and still be confident that you won't be frown upon (at the very least), or go to the "boca" neighbourhood in Buenos Aires wearing a River Plate t-shirt: it's just asking for trouble.
What I'm trying to say is that if they live in France, they should subscribe to the local culture as close as possible in public in order to avoid conflict.
It's, for example, like going to Iran or Russia with an american flag, speak american english out loud and still be confident that you won't be frown upon (at the very least), or go to the "boca" neighbourhood in Buenos Aires wearing a River Plate t-shirt: it's just asking for trouble.
You're not exactly painting France in a good light here with those comparisons...sounds more like a totalitarian state that you'd be happy with where everyone has to act a certain way so no one gets hurt. These muslims were just asking for trouble, right?
lol, very believable apology. I guess it's better than doubling down but yeaaaah. Fuck this guy and his restaurant.heh, guy probably searched the name of his restaurant on google
"I just called : "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I lost it yesterday, I apologize to the Muslim world. I don't know what got into me, if you're a muslim you are welcome, I apologized to the ladies after that..."
Hmmmm, he saw he lost his turnover or something ?"
also opening a business in Seine-Saint Denis when you're a racist is a really stupid thing to do
What I'm trying to say is that if they live in France, they should subscribe to the local culture as close as possible in public in order to avoid conflict.
It's, for example, like going to Iran or Russia with an american flag, speak american english out loud and still be confident that you won't be frown upon (at the very least), or go to the "boca" neighbourhood in Buenos Aires wearing a River Plate t-shirt: it's just asking for trouble.
As of 11 April 2011, it is illegal to wear a face-covering veil or other mask in public places such as the street, shops, museums, public transportation, and parks. Veils such as the chador, scarves and other headwear that do not cover the face, are not affected by this law and can be worn.
As a result of the law, the only exceptions to a woman wearing a niqāb in public will be if she is travelling in a private car or worshiping in a religious place. French police say that while there are five million Muslims in France, fewer than 2,000 are thought to fully cover their faces with a veil.
The law was challenged and taken to the European Court of Human Rights which upheld the French law on 1 July 2014, accepting the argument of the French government that the law was based on "a certain idea of living together".
We don't know when we'll get to normal times, could be a decade more, so until then I'd rather we focus on stamping out discrimination and hatred rather than "[insert an activity here] while muslim" and victim blame innocents for the actions of a few. If we let racists continue like this, yes they're only helping the terrorists' cause. One of ISIS' actual goals is to cause enough hatred of muslims in western countries so that more muslims join their cause in a sense of anger.Yes and no. Yes, they were "in danger" in the sense that with all the turmoil the recent attacks created in France, it's no wonder the rest of the people would see them with anger and hate.
No, in the sense that in "normal times" (i.e. no recent terrorists attacks) they should be and dress however they like, as the rest of the people wouldn't have the terrorist attacks so present in their collective memory and wouldn't criticize them or ban them from any place out of fear/hate.
It's sad, but right now, terrorists have won.
...and this type of behavior is what happens when two extremely different cultures clashes. There's a reason for the old saying "When in Rome, do as romans do"; reason that held true a thousand years ago as it is true today: to keep everyone in peace and not create a cultural clash.
They weren't wearing veilsAs of 11 April 2011, it is illegal to wear a face-covering veil or other mask in public places such as the street, shops, museums, public transportation, and parks. Veils such as the chador, scarves and other headwear that do not cover the face, are not affected by this law and can be worn.
As a result of the law, the only exceptions to a woman wearing a niqāb in public will be if she is travelling in a private car or worshiping in a religious place. French police say that while there are five million Muslims in France, fewer than 2,000 are thought to fully cover their faces with a veil.
The law was challenged and taken to the European Court of Human Rights which upheld the French law on 1 July 2014, accepting the argument of the French government that the law was based on "a certain idea of living together".
I understand how terrible this situation is, but don't you guys think tacking on phobia to anything people don't like or agree with is a little tired and unnecessary?
I understand how terrible this situation is, but don't you guys think tacking on phobia to anything people don't like or agree with is a little tired and unnecessary?
I understand how terrible this situation is, but don't you guys think tacking on phobia to anything people don't like or agree with is a little tired and unnecessary?
Shit head restaurant owner said:Madam, the terrorists are muslims and all the terrorists are muslims. This sentence explain it all. Analyse it.