SwiftDeath
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I saw the free XB1 announcements for the audience but $500 credit as well towards other windows devices?
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Universal Windows applications running on the Xbox
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I saw the free XB1 announcements for the audience but $500 credit as well towards other windows devices?
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justsomeguy
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"windows store apps" rather than Metro.
But regardless, WinRT apps include DirectX apps. So yeah, it's pretty damned exciting.
The Windows ecosystem is way different from a closed system ala Xbox and PS. Do you think we'll get those Mario spinoffs on Win8 Appstore on Xbox?
LukasTaves
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"If you're going to put an application on the Xbox, you can't just make it work with the controller you have to think about Kinect."
They showed kinect support being added automatically without any work required from the developer.
justsomeguy
Member
You're definitely not seeing the big picture - imagine the same game you buy on your Win8 PC also working your phone and your Xbox - or vice versa and so on. Plex for Windows 8? Also Plex for XBox and Plex for Phone all at once. It's potentially huge.
So what's there to think about then?
abracadaver
Member
How long until the first apps appear on X1 ?
Since there are Plex and VLC WinRT apps, yes most definitely.
This is the friggen best news I've heard in a while. Just, really great to hear.
Omnii-chan
Member
I'd love to have VLC. That program plays EVERYTHING.
Astral/H3X
Member
Well, this is interesting, and I think it'll help out quite a bit on all fronts. Making one app to go from Xbone to Windows 8 to Windows Phone is sure to increase the general availability of apps on each platform.
justsomeguy
Member
Yeah. Don't get the big deal. You've got a menu? Include some keywords for Kinect. No-brainer. Certainly not worthy of a nope button
There is a livestream on going at the moment http://channel9.msdn.com/?wt.mc_id=build_hp
Haha...
Amazon - "Here's $140 in free hardware!"
Microsoft - "£^$& it! $1k worth of prizes for everyone!"
Wish I were at either conference
LordBaztion
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I wonder hiw many of thesr apps will be snapable
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The caveat here is that no one makes Windows 8 or mobile apps. The 360 honestly has a superior app ecosystem.
*proud owner of a Windows 8.1 tablet.
*proud owner of a Windows 8.1 tablet.
Because it also could lead to many nice apps each with potential to be very helpful and welcome additions to the Xbox One? Is that not better than how it is currently? I'm sure there are many thinking up or have already been working on things for awhile now. It's still great to many even if you never see a reason to like it yourself.
The Jackdog
Member
Is that what people are excited for? Emulators?
Im more excited for the fact that services i use (plex, spotify, etc) can easily port apps to xbox one and have them work.
Kinect is great....when it works. Might get some better use with devs able to access some of its features and tailor it to its strengths.
Especially if its integrated in the bing search xbox one has. Kinect has impressed me most when I can use natural language and just say "show me sci fi action movies from the 80s" and it gets it all correct. I just NEVER use that feature cause...who uses xbox video?
If that search was implemented in something like plex, pretty cool. Who knows if it will. Itd just be nice if everything i enjoy using on other devices was now possible on xbox one.
LukasTaves
Member
Probably talking about the UI itself, or specific voice commands.
Perhaps I'm misreading this, but as far as I can tell there is no automatic compatibility with existing apps - be they RT, Metro, whatever - as seems to be suggested in some of the posts here.
This is a new framework. Devs will have to build their app to specifically support each of the target devices, then that app will be a 'universal' Windows app.
Obviously devs who have a RT or Metro app already out there have a headstart, and making their app universal may be relatively straight forward. But this doesn't automatically open Xbox to existing apps.
I know it would have been less straight forward, but I figured they were going to allow more or less all touch windows apps on Xbox with a Kinect 'touch emulation' layer. That would have automagically brought existing apps to Xbox.
Also noteworthy is that devs can choose to charge you separately for each version of the app. So it won't necessarily be 'buy once, use anywhere'.
This is a new framework. Devs will have to build their app to specifically support each of the target devices, then that app will be a 'universal' Windows app.
Obviously devs who have a RT or Metro app already out there have a headstart, and making their app universal may be relatively straight forward. But this doesn't automatically open Xbox to existing apps.
I know it would have been less straight forward, but I figured they were going to allow more or less all touch windows apps on Xbox with a Kinect 'touch emulation' layer. That would have automagically brought existing apps to Xbox.
Also noteworthy is that devs can choose to charge you separately for each version of the app. So it won't necessarily be 'buy once, use anywhere'.
So no third party apps then.
Abinash117
Member
Is there a Steam App for windows 8?
justsomeguy
Member
Trivial to create one. I'm really interested to see how they curate the store.
brandonh83
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Pretty sure they will put a stop to being able to get around using the windows app freely
LukasTaves
Member
They showed basically that on wp8.1 using Cortana, integrating with 3rd party apps too.
And if the rumors are true, it's just a matter of when Cortana hits the xbone.
The Jackdog
Member
As pumped as i am they havent said squat about cert and how thatll work so who knows if half the cool possibilities will even reach xbox one.
justsomeguy
Member
The slide they put up had WinRT underpinning it all. WinRT is the runtime and API already powering all Windows 8 store apps (i.e. full fat Windows 8 or Windows RT).. so yeah. Compatibility is there, looks like it should just be a recompile.
Miles Quaritch
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Still nothing about opening the X1 up to 'bedroom' developers...
Deadly Cyclone
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This.
Garrett 2U
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Windowed metro apps is a huge deal for me, I'm guessing others tooOff topic, but I'm sure this will please some people:
MaulerX
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Livestream - Satya is up http://channel9.msdn.com/?wt.mc_id=build_hp
Yes, 3rd party apps. That is the whole point.
The big thing isn't having one app hat runs across multiple platforms.
The big things are
- devs can easily get their metro apps onto Xbox and windows phone (good message for devs to encourage them onto that platform. Limited marketshare x 3 platforms gets to a big enough number to be interesting)
- Xbox 1 gets access to Apps. this is potentially massive. If they get plex on there, and I can launch it while watching TV with 'Xbox, go to plex', then I will throw my money at MS. It is potentially a gamechanger for Xbox IMO. The key will be making sure there is a decent number of apps available that people want, and ideally integrated with kinect voice at least.
This is the home console equivalent of when apple announced an App Store for iPhone. Simple on the face of it, but with potentially huge potential
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I'm here for the emulators.
justsomeguy
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? almost entirely 3rd party apps.
Don't count in it. Seems like it's just metro apps. Microsoft won't want to make it easier for you to watch your own content when they are selling their own services.
Off topic, but I'm sure this will please some people:
Wait, official? Whoa.
But wait. I love this announcement. I've been waiting for it to happen ever since it was revealed. But I just came to the same conclusion, again, that I always come to. What do I do on my computer? Browse the Web, play games, watch mkv's, and video and sound edit. It's little more than more convenience than a Megaton every time I think about it. But I reckon that there's people that aren't in my situation and all those things are ideally now doable on the Xbox.
Does the Xbox One do mouse and keyboard?
Does the Xbox One do mouse and keyboard?
Chobel
Member
Off topic, but I'm sure this will please some people:
What windows is that? Really, really nice Start Menu.
PachinkoChampBruh
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shh, don't give them any ideas.
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