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[i-Lo]

Radeon HD 7850 has 64 texture units, Orbis has 18. And what is this news of 8 ROPs?

What happened?

 

[Kagari]

wasn't that 176G/s bandwidth basically made up here on GAF a few days ago after someone suggested the 192G/s is an old figure or something? this article sounds fishy imo

176 is the current target.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

I'm guessing they'd have the BC flash drive they patented. Pretty good solution though. I think the 1 SKU they'd sell won't have the BC and the BC Flash drive will be optional.

What's that?....

 

[Reiko]

Durango info is getting scarce.

 

[WarLox]

http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-orbis-unveiled/



One SKU at launch: 500 GB HDD

YES!

 

[Visualante2]

Directx 11.1?

Maybe OpenGLES 3.0

 

[alexandros]

That "balanced for 14 CUs" sounds mighty suspicious. Maybe that's why some people claimed that "it's a wash" between Durante and Orbis? What does "balanced for 14 CUS" mean?

 

[iamshadowlark]

Radeon HD 7850 has 64 texture units, Orbis has 18. And what is this news of 8 ROPs?

What happened?

Yeah its pretty bad. 32 ROPS on the 7970m

 

[Liamario]

I'm going to guess a price point of €450.

 

[Mononoke]

Maybe a dumb question (and I apologize if it's been asked to death)...

But how does this compare to current high end PC builds? I'm looking at that 3.5gb dedicated to games, and weeping at my 2gb GTX680 sli.

I wonder if this gen will push dedicated memory past 2gb. I know Max Payne did with the high res textures.

 

[Kenka]

Djoking?

Fixed.

 

[malikhaing_bayag]

Wii U: Yamcha
Orbis: Krillin
Durango: Chiaotzu

Great I like Yamcha and if Krillin is cheap enough, I'll be sure to get one.

 

[TheMink]

One SKU? Thank you.



OT but who is this dude?

Novak Djokovic

Hes the number 1 tenis player in the world.

 

[amstradcpc]

Even the AMD 7770 has 16 rops and 40 texture units... If true forget about 165 GBs, more like 65 GBs and DDR3 memory...

 

[Takuan]

Not even gonna pretend to understand what those numbers and acronyms mean, but people seem happy, so hurray! Can we see the games now?

 

[gofreak]

Guys, a GCN 'render backend' has 4 ROPs.

8 render backends * 4 ROPs = 32 ROPs.

The 7950 has 8 'render backends' also, for example.

 

[Boss Man]

Oh boy, so waggle as standard?

Say what you will about Move; failure, useless, 'fuck move', etc lol. It isn't waggle though.

Still don't think I want motion controls standard.

 

[pharmboy044]

wasn't that 176G/s bandwidth basically made up here on GAF a few days ago after someone suggested the 192G/s is an old figure or something? this article sounds fishy imo

I think one of BruceLeeRoys contacts actually mentioned this speed to him.

 

[Krilekk]

THIS

2013, year of the Playstation ... continued momentum ...

 

[onQ123]

only thing that I see that I haven't really seen before is


'Display ScanOut Engine'


so is this like a scaler chip?

 

[Beerman462]

What does "Hardware balanced at 14 CUs" mean, when there's 18 CU's in the GPU?

Assuming they are accounting for bad yields. Produce a chip with 18CUs assuming at least 14 are good.

 

[Karma]

Thats about a $400 machine.

Not with 2 cameras and a Move controller.

 

[Tobor]

so its basically identical to durango? only different being ram set up, of which both have advantages and disadvantages

Exactly as it should be. Next gen multiplat development will pick right up where the last gen leaves off.

PC/360/PS3 Lol, Wii ---> PC/Durango/Orbis Lol, WiiU.

 

[Pistolero]

The latest paper specs make the two consoles way closer than people initially suggested. In fact, if the extra hardware thrown in Durango works as intended, it will probably end up on top.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Oh boy, so waggle as standard?

No. Even if it was, we still have options for tradition means of control.

 

[iamshadowlark]

Guys, a GCN 'render backend' has 4 ROPs.

8 render backends * 4 ROPs = 32 ROPs.

The 7950 has 8 'render backends' also, for example.

Well then.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Why are some of you assuming that the peripherals are in the box? Sony probably don't know what they'll include yet.

 

[FlyingTeacup]

1 sku, lovely.

what happens to the additional secret sauce?

 

[Diablos]

Everything looks really nice... except I was expecting 8GB of RAM.

 

[Pachterballs]

nice.

day one.

 

[gofreak]

Assuming they are accounting for bad yields. Produce a chip with 18CUs assuming at least 14 are good.

I'm not sure that's what that means...

 

[SolidSnakex]

I hope we don't get something like the PS3 demo. That was underwhelming....

You mean Vision GT? I doubt it'd be like that. Kaz has said that the cars that they actually built cars for GT5 that are more suited for the PS4 than the PS3. It just comes down to the courses after that. Even limiting it to one course wouldn't be a bad thing. With GT2000 they ended up only using a Special Route course for its unveiling, and even eventually started showing of Seattle.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Everything looks really nice... except I was expecting 8GB of RAM.

8gb of ram that fast would be ridiculous :/

 

[phosphor112]

Assuming they are accounting for bad yields. Produce a chip with 18CUs assuming at least 14 are good.

But the chip starts off with 20... drop down to 18, but oh no! All of a sudden 14? Doesn't make sense.

 

[sangreal]

Assuming they are accounting for bad yields. Produce a chip with 18CUs assuming at least 14 are good.

that would throw out the tf number

 

[cloudyy]

How many jobs?

 

[JoeFenix]

I'm guessing they'd have the BC flash drive they patented. Pretty good solution though. I think the 1 SKU they'd sell won't have the BC and the BC Flash drive will be optional.

I'd be OK with that honestly, I just want an option, I'd pay extra for it at this point.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Memory:

4 GB unified system memory, 176 GB/s
3.5 available to games (estimate)

Nice my source was right.
I thought for sure we were getting Durango info but this is great. Excellent specs and its good that they are more or less confirmed.

The hardware is there now we just have to wait for the games.

 

[Tarin02543]

Looks great but where's Ken's krazy sauce? Where's my grid computing hyper cube?

 

[deanos]

Guys, a GCN 'render backend' has 4 ROPs.

8 render backends * 4 ROPs = 32 ROPs.

The 7950 has 8 'render backends' also, for example.

hmm, are you sure? lol.

 

[Daedardus]

Where are my 16GB of RAM?

GAF told me they could get that for cheap on newegg.

 

[amstradcpc]

Guys, a GCN 'render backend' has 4 ROPs.

8 render backends * 4 ROPs = 32 ROPs.

The 7950 has 8 'render backends' also, for example.

Ok. Thats right. And what happen with the texture units?. Less than a 7770?.

 

[Polari]

Sounds like a beast to me. When you look at the best the PS3 has given us and consider how much more powerful this is, I'm betting we'll see some pretty impressive results long-term.

 

[evangd007]

Great I like Yamcha and if Krillin is cheap enough, I'll be sure to get one.

Glad someone else is using DBZ power levels for humor rather than dick-waving.

 

[i-Lo]

Guys, a GCN 'render backend' has 4 ROPs.

8 render backends * 4 ROPs = 32 ROPs.

The 7950 has 8 'render backends' also, for example.

So each render backend comprises for 4 ROPs?

And what about the texture unit count? That is a staggering 3.56 times lower than the base Pitcairn.

 

[iamshadowlark]

That "balanced for 14 CUs" sounds mighty suspicious. Maybe that's why some people claimed that "it's a wash" between Durante and Orbis? What does "balanced for 14 CUS" mean?

Maybe what proelite alluded to. Extra CUs on the GPU that will assist the CPU at time to time. IDK hopefully someone clarifies.

 

[Rösti]

Directx 11.1?

Compliant features. I will quote this from Microsoft's Dev Center site:

The following functionality has been added in Direct3D 11.1, which is included with Windows 8, Windows RT, and Windows Server 2012.

• Shader tracing and compiler enhancements
• Direct3D device sharing
• Check support of new Direct3D 11.1 features and formats
• Use HLSL minimum precision
• Specify user clip planes in HLSL on feature level 9 and higher
• Create larger constant buffers than a shader can access
• Use logical operations in a render target
• Force the sample count to create a rasterizer state
• Process video resources with shaders
• Extended support for shared Texture2D resources
• Change subresources with new copy options
• Discard resources and resource views
• Support a larger number of UAVs
• Bind a subrange of a constant buffer to a shader
• Retrieve the subrange of a constant buffer that is bound to a shader
• Clear all or part of a resource view
• Map SRVs of dynamic buffers with NO_OVERWRITE
• Use UAVs at every pipeline stage
• Extended support for WARP devices
• Use Direct3D in Session 0 processes

Source: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh404562(v=vs.85).aspx

This, HLSL 5 and the Compute Shader (DirectCompute) features on 11.x hardware is probably what they have been looking at in an API context. Apart from their own proprietary technology of course.

To comment on this "article", I'm moderately pleased out of a development standpoint (the I/D caches could be bigger though, 32KB is very common). But I don't get why they don't write the memory type (which is most likely GDDR5). Certainly what is communicated here doesn't suffice to make any greater statement about the system's capabilities, but overall it appears quite pleasant.

 

[SunhiLegend]

I don't know what half of this stuff means, or really care, as long as it's a significant step up from the PS3 I'll be happy.

 

[Cornbread78]

So can anyone compare this to the Wii U using Dragon Ball Z power levels?

I thinks the correct question that is asked commonly is "How many WiiU's is this taped together?"

 

[Vinci]

Yeah, all that's about as informative for me as someone giving directions in Hindi. I'll just have to wait and see how they communicate it later on.