Said it in multiple threads but the WiiU has been dead for months. The only thing even keeping this system (or Nintendo for that matter) relevant is nostalgia and pure delusion.
Yep. And least of all, amazing software
Said it in multiple threads but the WiiU has been dead for months. The only thing even keeping this system (or Nintendo for that matter) relevant is nostalgia and pure delusion.
this will be the first Nintendo system to be killed prematurely.
I'm just sayin' Log! If the number was 150k in November, what hope is left? That just would represent a catatonic level of interest for your product, that people are just over whatever you have to offer for it. I mean, we already had a New! Super Mario Bros. game and a damn good 3D Mario Bros. game, and a DLC New Luigi Bros game, and not a single one of them made even the slightest dent in Wii U's fortunes. I don't know what else Nintendo could pull out of their hat since Mario Kart and Smash Bros. aren't going to have better odds at changing things than NSMB.
This is just sad.
Why is Nintendo NOT announcing Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 Remakes and Skyland HD version.
People are giving too much attention to Pachter guesses.
Let's wait NPD november to discuss based on real numbers.
Let's wait NPD november to discuss based on real numbers.
discuss based on real numbers
real numbers
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In the west, sure. Though that doesn't suddenly fix things
Yep. I don't think people need to be fired, but the company just needs some new blood in there to take control of the ship. Stop trying the same old fucking tried and tested things over and over again. Another NSMB will do jack all for your system bar sell to the crazy Nintendo crowd that is absolutely tiny these days. The Iwatas, Miyamotos and other stuck-in-the-mud senior people that are basically the gatekeepers of all game output at Nintendo need to either accept new ideas and move with the times or let people step in and try things they haven't done or done much of before.
That's perfectly understandable. I have personal connections to Nintendo, so their success / failure is quite important for me as well...while I'm a bitter realist online, I tend to get quite sentimental about them behind the scenes.
I can only imagine how much of a fortune Nintendo would make selling their games on other consoles. The classic games alone would probably be a never ending money printing machine.
I'm not saying it's likely. Honestly, if they can't get this thing on course here soon, there really is no good option. That's why I'm hesitant to make any suggestions. I'm certainly not in the hotseat calling the shots. I guess if I had to make a guess, I'd assume that they'd continue on with the Wii U with support that consists of the titles we already know of (i.e. we'll at least get through Zelda U), and that they'd start working on the next platform to unveil at E3 2015. That is, of course, assuming that the U is beyond salvage. I'm pretty pessimistic of its chances, but I'm not writing its obituary just yet.
Hah I got my dreamcast in 2000. told my mom it was tanking an we jumped ship over Xmas 2001.
Don't know what the latter is, but yes, that's exactly what Nintendo needs...more remakes! Let's squeeze the last bit if money we can from those crazy fans that will buy anything we release! This is how to make your core fanbase smaller and smaller as each generation passes. Basically do the most minimum amount of work you can.This is just sad.
Why is Nintendo NOT announcing Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 Remakes and Skyland HD version.
At what point will we know the actual numbers from NPD?
*clears throat* "I think its stupid that people are writing off the system because of a poor holiday when Nintendo hasn't even released its mega hits like Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Zelda, Bayonetta 2, Fucking Donkey Kong, and Steel Diver 2: Electric Boogaloo. I'm tired of the stupid, short-sighted, biased opinions against Nintendo. If you would for a moment not buy into the conspiracy against Nintendo perpetrated by third parties, you would see it has an incredibly bright future ahead of it. Its just so stupid".
i love my wii u, pikmin3 is great and so is 3dworld.
Neogaf will call me crazy, but i hope the wii u fails, they deserve to fail this time.
Maybe this is what it will take for a shake up at nintendo, i'm a huge fan but they need it.
I hope that the developers that made new super mario bros u are taken somewhere and buried deep down in to the earth.
That game showed almost no effort from nintendo, almost as if they were laughing whilst making it, thinking they could get away with another sloppy effort and rake in the money, just taking the wii games horrible art assets and upping the resolution. for that game alone, the wii u deserves to fail.If i see another 'new' game announced with the same disgusting art then whatever happens to nintendo is their own fault.
i love my wii u, pikmin3 is great and so is 3dworld.
Neogaf will call me crazy, but i hope the wii u fails, they deserve to fail this time.
Maybe this is what it will take for a shake up at nintendo, i'm a huge fan but they need it.
I hope that the developers that made new super mario bros u are taken somewhere and buried deep down in to the earth.
That game showed almost no effort from nintendo, almost as if they were laughing whilst making it, thinking they could get away with another sloppy effort and rake in the money, just taking the wii games horrible art assets and upping the resolution. for that game alone, the wii u deserves to fail.If i see another 'new' game announced with the same disgusting art then whatever happens to nintendo is their own fault.
I predict 250k for November which would be 5x greater than November. For December, the Wii U could sell 500k or so. Nintendo just needs to show strong support for the console in early 2014 like they are already planning. Doesn't matter how dead you guys keep declaring the Wii U, Nintendo will support this console for years to come. Might as well accept this fact and just buy one, the system has great games worth owning.
*clears throat* "I think its stupid that people are writing off the system because of a poor holiday when Nintendo hasn't even released its mega hits like Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Zelda, Bayonetta 2, Fucking Donkey Kong, and Steel Diver 2: Electric Boogaloo. I'm tired of the stupid, short-sighted, biased opinions against Nintendo. If you would for a moment not buy into the conspiracy against Nintendo perpetrated by third parties, you would see it has an incredibly bright future ahead of it. Its just so stupid".
Few things offer sudden fixes. In life, you have to take things a step at a time. Firing Iwata is a very good first step.
Except they really aren't. Sony was making a loss on PS3, and they are going to continue to make a loss on PS4. PSVita is performing as poorly as Wii U. There's the difference. Nintendo's strong market is actually profitable.
We've yet to see 2DS sales, which will undoubtedly catapult their already strong market even further, let alone the holiday Pokemon sales.
I am increasingly believing that is the case, but I was saying that such numbers (if they were true) must be bad enough to convince even the most hardened Nintendo fan that there is no hope for Wii U. That's tipping point type numbers. I don't think it's possible to articulate just how bad such numbers would be, there'd be no way to exaggerate the catastrophe from a sales standpoint.
The thing is ...although Iwata is in charge of the worst selling console currently on the market...he's also in charge of the best selling console currently on the market.
If Nintendo are going to fire Iwata based on Wii U sales.. then Sony should fire Kaz based on Vita sales.
The real issue is that while Nintendo dragged it's feet on offering certain features the other had earlier, it seems that when they decided they were going to do it, they started development too late. So, the features come out barely working, flawed and not on parity with the competition. It'd be fine if they waited for HD and then went "BAM" out the gate. It'd be fine if they were slow on their eShop and then "BAM" titles left right and centre, single accounts not tied to machines etc etc. But no, they wait, wait, wait, resist, wait some more then go "Ok, let's do something but make sure you do the least possible and keep control as much as you can. Do NOT give consumers what they've been asking for, give them what we think they should have."
i love my wii u, pikmin3 is great and so is 3dworld.
Neogaf will call me crazy, but i hope the wii u fails, they deserve to fail this time.
Maybe this is what it will take for a shake up at nintendo, i'm a huge fan but they need it.
I hope that the developers that made new super mario bros u are taken somewhere and buried deep down in to the earth.
That game showed almost no effort from nintendo, almost as if they were laughing whilst making it, thinking they could get away with another sloppy effort and rake in the money. Just taking the wii games horrible art assets and upping the resolution. for that game alone, the wii u deserves to fail.If i see another 'new' game announced with the same disgusting art then whatever happens to nintendo is their own fault.
I just ordered this f***** thing a week ago for Christmas, I'll be so pissed off if I just wasted over $300 on this only for Nintendo to just give up on it. If they drop this thing next year, I'll never buy another Nintendo console again. I'm not giving them another chance, they've made so many f*** ups over the past 7 years that I honestly don't know why I keep supporting them.
My console is macabre and dying a slow painful death, made by a company that abuses it like a drunken mother, yet here I am having fun on it like I'm dancing around it's freshly dug grave and open casket. So fucking Metal.
I agree. Pach has to be just trolling here. I couldn't have done that disastrously bad. Good god.This seems like an impossibly low estimate.
Hardware down 65%.... it's possible he means that Nintendo's overall hardware sales are down that much year over year, and last November's Wii + Wii U number was well over 800k, so that'd be slightly better but not by much (perhaps 300 instead of 150). But who knows what he was looking at.
This capture brilliantly whats going on. Particularly how it portrays the fans that just want Nintendo to survive and not adapt.
I just ordered this f***** thing a week ago for Christmas, I'll be so pissed off if I just wasted over $300 on this only for Nintendo to just give up on it. If they drop this thing next year, I'll never buy another Nintendo console again. I'm not giving them another chance, they've made so many f*** ups over the past 7 years that I honestly don't know why I keep supporting them.
Though I don't want anyone to fail, except Justin Beiber, I can't imagine ever getting the kind of console I want from Nintendo unless they just tank spectacularly, repeatedly.
*dreams of advanced console with enthusiastic third party support, a slew of western games AND Nintendo IP's*
I just ordered this f***** thing a week ago for Christmas, I'll be so pissed off if I just wasted over $300 on this only for Nintendo to just give up on it. If they drop this thing next year, I'll never buy another Nintendo console again. I'm not giving them another chance, they've made so many f*** ups over the past 7 years that I honestly don't know why I keep supporting them.