Death Dealer said:
Not the same thing. Gamecube didn't offer much over a PS2. While a PS3 does offer a lot over a Wii. (especially 2-3 years from now, what a nice catalog)
Agree. I think if Sony starts building any momentum MS will do the same thing over again. Launch earlier with an attractive price point and try and catch them off guard.
To the mass market, i.e. the majority of people who play videogames, and
most PS2 owners,
PS3 offers NOTHING over the Wii. If you disagree you're wrong, and really have not been paying attention.
You know, several months on and a couple of years in, the saddest thing here is many people, including possibly Sony, unless they're playing a big bluff, still not getting that
PS3's biggest mistake wasn't price, it was coming to market with the wrong gameplan. Of course, price was/is a factor, and ultimately condemned them to last place this gen (but more about that later ;-), but it wasn't their key mistake, which is pretty obvious now.
Sony, like MS, assumed the market would take to last gen gaming with better graphics, as this had worked for the PS1 -> PS2 gen, but the mass market had moved on and wanted something new, which turned out to be Wii. This left Sony and MS fighting it out for a secondary market of 'core gamers', which is what is causing many developers and publishers so much trouble because it is what it is, i.e. a secondary market, and simply doesn't have, nor will ever have, the installed base to accommodate the risk of HD development. Sure, you have a chance of profit, but this can easily be wiped out by increased losses from the bombs because the business model is so retardedly expensive.
The other crippling mistake Sony made was not dropping the price this year. Wii is the closest thing to a PS2 type system, and will likely outsell it significantly, but there is a decent market for a certain kind of content on HD systems, but by not dropping the price this year, Sony has essentially said HELLO to 3rd place and given 2nd to 360 (which, imo it deserves because MS has worked and bled billions to get there), which I think is the point DeaconKnowledge was trying to make, but you were so eager to avoid. Sony has fucked up so magnificently it's begs belief!!!!
And, like DeaconKnowledge said, I think next year could very easily be worse for PS3 than this, because the system has virtually no guaranteed 'system sellers', beyond FFXIII in one region, its line up, in this regard, is poor, no question about it.
Sony has made far too many mistakes this gen, I mean, FFS, they even positioned a level editor for an unknown 2D platformer by
Media Molecule as one of their big 'system selling' games of the year! :lol (and this is in no way a comment on the quality of the game, rather the fucking dumb notion the
masses would EVER take to such a thing; even on Wii or PS2 it was clearly never going to happen! ;-)