-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
WSJ: Sony to announce PS4 Slim and Neo next month (Playstation Meeting)
- Thread starter jbug617
- Start date
Since it wasn't confirmed here there is a good chance that psp like device from the earlier rumour was the NX.
Unknown?
Member
But that's how much the OG PS4 would be without being bundled with a game! I say $299 with a brand new game and $249 with no game.
FalsettoVibe
Member
I think that if Sony releases a Slim PS4 at an affordable price that gives them some real flexibility with the Neo's price since it will be considered more of a ""hardcore" system. I'm gonna go with $449. If people are bothered with that price, they can get the Slim PS4 which plays the same games.
Whoa wait when was this said???
Chobel
Member
Sony will continue to dominate as long as they can match the XB1S price, no need to go lower.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
No way. I think they will release it as soon as possible.
MrBenchmark
Member
I have to agree with this especially if it doesn't have any UHD support like the one S does starting at $299
wapplew
Member
Has to be this year. Wouldn't make a lick of sense to announce it in September.
I really wouldn't outright rule out 249 especially if it doesn't have UHD capabilities. It gives them a clear distinction when they try to sell the neo at a higher price as well. 249 slim for the price conscious and 399-449 neo for the hardcore. Last year Black Friday was 299 uncharted bundle and with the slim being cheaper to produce, I can definitely see them selling 249 bundles for this Black Friday and undercut Xbox one s at the same time
No it would not be 299.99 with out a game. The bundling is for perceived value it started last generation. Instead of price cuts we got bundles. I highly doubt Sony will sell the slim at near cost at 249.99. They are going to want to make profit like they have the last 2 year on the OG PS4. It will be 299.99 with a game basically is almost 0 cost and lets them add 50 dollars in the pocket per slim sale.
Has to be this year. They (Layden and House) said they wanted a short lead up time between announcement and console launch. They were surprised that MS announced 1 yr in advance.
Unknown?
Member
You think Sony would bother with a slim that didn't significantly decrease manufacturing costs like all the others in the past have?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Should be $249. Xbox One S can justify $299 because of the UHD drive. This is literally a lower quality version of the current PS4 which $349 with a game. It will sell either way, but I don't think Sonyy would be taking a loss at $249.
Mine is going on eBay tonight...
Mine is going on eBay tonight...
jordan0386
Member
I think it has value in splitting the difference between the Slim and Neo, but I don't see it holding much value to people that haven't yet purchased a PS4. It will be an overpriced slim where you are simply paying for a premium housing or it will be a gimped PS4 compared to the Neo.
Simply put it splits the difference but becomes no longer compelling beyond being the once desirable first incarnation of the PS4.
Of course but I think they will pass 50 dollars to the consumer and pocket the rest. Nothing Sony has done this generation has pointed to them not wanting to make good money off the hardware this time.
jmaine_ph
Member
Yea I agree with this. I don't see a new handheld coming at all.
Agreed but if Scorpio miraculously takes off and there is demand for more powerful hardware and they are losing users then they might fast track it to 2018. I doubt Scorpio will take off anyways and start sellin huge numbers so ps5 in 2019 is a safe bet.
FireBeaver
Banned
Is the NEO going to be enough of an upgrade to make selling my PS4 a good option? I just got it a few months ago...
BRocknRolla
Member
There are people here saying Neo will be below $399. I'm saying that's crazy talk. As you said, the slim will be mass market price, maybe $299 or even $250 at a stretch. The Neo is for enthusiasts, no less than $399, and maybe more with bundles or hard drive upsells.
jmaine_ph
Member
Damn. Where have you been man? This Neo stuff been rumored since March.
Chobel
Member
They may go $249 in BF, not because they wanna undercut XB1S, but because they have to match XB1S price. MS is definitely going $249 or lower this holiday.
Unknown?
Member
When they started selling them in 2013 they lost a small amount of money on them but made it up in PS+/accessories & games. I'm not saying they'd want to sell it at a loss but I think the price to manufacture has dropped significantly since then and in 3 year it has only dropped $50. If it's not $249 standard then I say it will be that as a promotional at the very least!
But as the guy said above adding a game adds value. If the slim is only $50 cheaper than the OG that comes with a full priced game(slim doesn't according to pics) the value won't be perceived as better. Technically it would be a worse value.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Oh I thought you were saying it was impossible for it to be more expensive than $399. $399 is definitely the absolute minimum.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Why not just wait? You waited over 2 years to get a regular ps4.
BRocknRolla
Member
Nope. We're in agreement.
I was thinking the Neo was basically just 4k. You're right I think it will be, going to go with $399. Still sticking with my $25o slim base model though.
With a game, so basically it's a $299 console. If the PS4 Slim hits with $0 price drop, that's super lame.
That first holiday a year past launch (2018) would probably be the moment where Scorpio get's momentum. It could be wise for the PS5 to get it's foot into the race at that time, because come holiday 2019 the scopio will be hitting it's stride with dedicated exclusives.
If they release in 2019, then two years into the PS5's cycle the 4 year old Scorpio might be ready to be replaced again soon anyways. It would create this really obnoxious staggered generation arms race. But if the Scorpio is a generation-less hale-mary by Microsoft I could see a 2019 PS5 release really hurting Microsoft into the future assuming the Neo can carry Sony that far past the Scorpio's release come 2017. But then again Microsoft might just lean fully into PC hardware at that point.
Yeah, its like buying a white OG 360 or an elite after the S came out. Completely pointless.
I don't think there's much likelihood in that globally. I think Sony will stick to the plan they've got. So you and me basically agree about 2019.
George Washington
Member
RIP OG PS4
; _ ;
ReBurn
Gold Member
It's gonna be $299 for 500GB. Wait and see.
Unknown?
Member
That's what I'm saying! $299 with no game isn't any better of a value, it's worse in fact! And thus quite lame.
Why? It is supposedly a premium product and it lets them keep the price of the slim up. A 449.99 NEO lets the slim stay at 299.99 letting Sony make good profits off hardware. There is no competition for a year in the premium market so they can take advantage. The 449.99 gives them room for a price cut to 399.99 at E3 next year to combat the Scorpio. I don't see the point in bringing out a premium Model and not make money off of it. Especially being the market leader people won't like it but will pay the premium.
In more ways than you can possibly imagine.