xabbott
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Almost everyone making software is. Even on mobile, enterprise, etc. Those who haven't got a SAAS strategy are probably going to be the minority.
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Xbox Breaks Xbox Black Friday Records; Windows 10 Gaming Continues To Rise
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Almost everyone making software is. Even on mobile, enterprise, etc. Those who haven't got a SAAS strategy are probably going to be the minority.
Obliterator
Member
Nice, solid info. So we know it cleared over 750k in BF week? Very impressive
MaulerX
Member
Exactly. I called Gamestop to see if they had the Elite controller. The manager told me they didn't have any but I could trade my old XB1 for $250 and anything else I had for the Elite bundle. I got the Elite bundle, got a free game and extra controller. He said he was telling everyone that called asking for the Elite controller. It might not mean anything but still.
Xbox One console sales at retail were up 22 percent over the same period last year, making it the second biggest Black Friday week in 15 years of Xbox history in the U.S.
For me is pretty clear they're talking only about Xbox One.
Birgitte2004
Member
Do you not understand what "relatively" means? Last year the Xbox dropped from 500$ to 330$ + multiple games and even gift cards and such beyond that in a relatively short amount of time.
This year they dropped from 350 to 300.
Relatively speaking, last year was much better, regardless of what the actual $ value is.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Pretty sure they just want to keep the hype rolling and investors happy with early looks, but this isn't the first time MS has released early information gathered from their own digital network, storefronts, and their data from retailers directly.
Sure, it's great and all. But Halo, and Sony not having any huge exclusives, though Call of Duty and Star Wars were big, should have meant that Xbox would have a very easy time winning October, November and December.
As stated in the other thread it's a bunch of stats with no mention of any actual win, neither for BF nor for the month. So you can draw your conclusions.
I hope they will cross the 1m milestone for November, we need strong home consoles to keep publishers interested in making certain games.
I hope they will cross the 1m milestone for November, we need strong home consoles to keep publishers interested in making certain games.
Obliterator
Member
Why would it be easy to win those months when it isnt the cumulative sales leader in NA?
I mean these numbers are essentially impossible to spin negatively
travisbickle
Member
what?
People will sure as hell try tho.
Too close to call if InfoScout was accurate. About the full month I think no one is expecting Xbox One in the lead.
Forsaken82
Member
Well... it says "hours spent gaming" not "hours spent across all of XBL miriad of features"
Because it won last year without Halo 5, the biggest exclusive they have?
Again, I am not saying the numbers are bad or underwhelming, the relative numbers are unexpected in my opinion.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
There is no equivalent to XBLA anymore.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Any mention of rotr? Anybody?
Imru al-Qays
Banned
No, because not every active user is actually inside the walled garden where they have to buy all their content from you.
Do you really think consumers are gauging these deals in relative terms rather than absolute terms? For most people it's going to be "How much money is this going to cost me?" rather than "What percent of a discount am I getting?"
Xbox was $400 as of ~May 2014, so I don't think it's fair to say that Black Friday saw a drop from $500......especially since that drop came with the exclusion of Kinect hardware. The price was lower, but the value decreased as well.
It is hard if the internal data shows a number very similar for PS4.
Obliterator
Member
If both Xbone and PS4 do over 1.2 million in November this industry and generation is strong as F bro's and sistas
MaulerX
Member
Of course they do. Before NPD started charging for it's data MS would actually say in their PR's if they'd won BF or November ahead of NPD day. Now Sony nor Microsoft don't do it because they don't want to undermine NPD since they now charge for it.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
How many people are using the XB1 and for how long. For example, with ftp games coming in fashion on consoles, it might dictate where a game like Hearthstone may show up first.
A developer might not be necessarily interested in the most systems out there, they might be more interested in who is active on a particular system the longest.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Don't agree. Those sales (of XOs, rising 22% etc. etc.) helped making it the 2nd best week ever. Excluding (probably still healthy) Xbox 360 BF sales from the total when talking about Xbox's history wouldn't make any sense.
Sounds good to me. Man, with Xbox enjoying a high point from BC, NXOE, and " The Best Lineup in Xbox History". US sales in November should be impressive. Same goes for PS4 with CoD, Battlefront, and pricecut. Should be healthy numbers all around. Still close in my mind. I'm seeing a scenario where PS4 had the better 3/4 weeks and wasn't too far behind XB1 on BF.
Welfare
Member
Hot damn.
It's doing more than 1.23m this month. The guys in the prediction thread should adjust accordingly.
I don't understand the confusion. They literally say
360 is dead at this point.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Hot diggity damn.
jfoul
Member
If I remember correctly, the Microsoft Store deal was $299 and had the following. The 1TB Bundles were $349, and some select games also gave a $10 MS Store credit.
- Xbox One 500GB with Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
- Gears of War BC Collection (1, 2 , 3, Judgement)
- Choice of one free game
- $60 Microsoft Store Gift Card/Credit
Hmm, second best selling Black Friday in XBox history is pretty impressive, but there are no mentions of the XB1 winning Black Friday at all. Seems like either the PS4 barely outsold the XB1 during Black Friday or both were extremely close to me. Either way, I'm still thinking the PS4 took the month overall.
jfoul
Member
Yeah, this is my thinking as well. Great for the market all around.
Karak
Member
Wait did Sony say they did? I though the real NPD's were later than this.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Investors will be happy, but I don't think they beat Sony with that kind of wording. We will see
It's pretty crazy that the Xbox sales were so big, and this is actually still in question regardless.
1.2 million+ for both this month might actually happen. That would be nuts.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Tbh there are many predictions with XB over PS4 in the other thread though
Btw I also think that for BF they were close but not so close they couldn't tell who won, which doesn't make a lot of sense if you consider how there are NPD months with a 10k winning margin and still a winner is claimed. If they aren't claiming anything it means they know they lost, likely by a bit based on what we know but they lost. Could be 830k vs 800k who knows.
No, Sony hasn't said anything, but we all know that Microsoft likes shouting from the rooftops if they win something. The fact that they didn't leads me to those two scenarios.
I think the PS4 should definitely reach 1.2 million in November, but XB1, I'm not sure yet. I still think the XB1 will be down YoY.
redblack85
Member
Then PS4 forward to November?
Aceofspades
Banned
How can it break BF records when it has second best BF in Xbox history?
MS spins never stop.
MS spins never stop.
Welfare
Member
The Xbox One broke its own record.
Aceofspades
Banned
Then wording should change to reflect that, Xbox history includes 3 systems.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
There's no confusion on my part. There's zero chance Microsoft wouldn't use cumulative X1+X360 sales to boost a bigger number, zero chance. It literally says x1 numbers rising meant they were able to achieve the 2nd biggest xbox week ever and well duh they wouldn't mention dwindling X360 sales in the same sentence but from a pr, logical perspective and heck even how it's worded I don't see how you can say that "yeah, obviously they're gonna put x360 sales in the bin cause who the hell needs those sales, definitely not Microsoft for their Xbox division because who cares about the 360 anymore".
It's naive to say the least to think that.
Replace that pr with one from Sony and you'd get basically the same thing, just that they would refer to it as Playstation's family because that's how they've always worded it since a few years back.
It's record for Xbox One, best BF since launch.
AgentP
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How do you figure? Sales were dead until BF week. Say they did 100k leading up to BF week, 750k more is no where 1.2m. Last year they rode into BF with a new $350 price point, they had a strong month, not just a strong week.
What?
I don't follow... PR says Xbox One sales, why are you including X360 when MS clearly specified it's Xbox One sales?