Exactly!
While none of the above affects me, I understand people's frustrations, but this kind of hyperbolic, hysterical all-gamers-must-unite mob outrage only undermines the point you are trying to make. If you want to instigate change, preaching to the converted won't cut it. This kind of blanket negativity won't get anyone on your side who doesn't already agree with you.
There are plenty of positives with the Xbox One, its protectionism policy and its contribution to gaming as a whole (#1 - driving up quality) and whitewashing them only makes your opinion, and you in turn, limited.
Man, what a thread. Yes, let's be silent and sit on our hands and trust Microsoft to do the right thing.
My ignore list keeps growing.
Man, what a thread. Yes, let's be silent and sit on our hands and trust Microsoft to do the right thing.
My ignore list keeps growing.
matics said:Why stop there? Throw your 360 out the window!
He should make sure to record it so it can be used to boost troop morale in this vicious war.
can't someone share the prices of digital xbox one games? i mean everybody is talking about it will be expensive, there won't be any promotions or anything, steam is diferent because it have cheap games and xbox one don't and we're at 6 months to launch...so maybe someone already have xbox one prices and maybe share with us with the source, that will be nice...
Hey hey, no need to make any rash decisions...The day the Xbone launches everyone should buy a WiiU in protest.
It would be useful to have that image in other languages as well!
What the hell are you on about. Just a few of the things different about Steam.
- Completely open platform
- Digital downloads, not physical copies
- Cheaper pricing and sales
- Complete offline play
People need to stop comparing this to Steam, it's not the same at all.
None of this bothers me. If anything I would spread the word that it's not nearly as bad as it was made out to be.
I did my part. Thanks for this thread OP and everybody who contributed! I'm glad there are still people who are not willing to accept all this bullshit with open arms.
It's also pretty sad that there are so many gamers advocating for the loss of consumer rights.
The french consumer rights association already reacted, they are astonished at what MS is trying to do. There will be blood, and by that I mean tons of bad press, injonction to write on the box warnings for customers, etc.Nice thread,
Most people in France already know and they will fight this.
Sharing, Trading games is a whole part of my childhood and it was great !
And that's what MS is banking on. Good little proles who do what they're told and don't pause to consider the rights they lose in the process. Enjoy your stack of coasters in 2020 when Xbone servers are shut down for the new console and you lose all rights to your collection since there's no more 24 hour handshake to reactivate them. Oh and be a good little prole next election and don't bother to vote, ok?
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Awesome. It is all clear why it is called Xbone One.
Might wanna add this too:
[quote="tusken77, post: 62015445"]How many hours can I game offline if logged on to a separate console accessing my library? ONE[/QUOTE]
Awesome. It is all clear why it is called Xbone One.
Might wanna add this too:
I can't afford a Mercedes, so I buy a Camry instead. I don't understand what's so bad about that. They're pricing people out of their productperhaps even intentionally. So what?
It's a business strategy used by tons of companies. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I can understand where publishers are coming from should they choose to lock their software down (and it is a choice, not mandatory) because development costs will continue to rise and they want to recoup as much money as they can from software "sales".
Also, last I checked a game console was a luxury item. If we were talking about a necessity like your fridge I could see why people would be upset.
This thread must not go forgotten, it is in our best interest to keep it alive (if you like gaming as currently is and not the vision Microsoft has for the future of it), it would be a good idea that once they (MS) announce the release date, we (the people that share the same opinion) post on FaceBook, Twitter, etc. on the date that it's set to be released (minus the month obviously), so for example if it's set to be released on 11/26/2013, we should post on 09/26/2013 and 10/26/2013, and one final push on 11/25/2013, that way we don't risk annoying our contacts and have them ignore our posts instead of paying attention to them.
It would also be great if that spreadsheet was made in more languages for foreign speaking neogaffers that might want to participate.
The french consumer rights association already reacted, they are astonished at what MS is trying to do. There will be blood, and by that I mean tons of bad press, injonction to write on the box warnings for customers, etc.
http://reviewer.lavoixdunord.fr/fr/...-que-choisir-a-microsoft-dans-le-collimateur/
-So open that indies have to be greenlight to get on it or get rejected if they were in greenlight then got a publisher?
-you can buy a physical copy from walmart activate it and then its digital only
-yet to be determined MS has stated they want a old games to be hot like steam.
-You got me there but this isn't a deal breaker for me.
Why stop there? Throw your 360 out the window!
The day the Xbone launches everyone should buy a WiiU in protest.
Change someone have to someone has. Unless it's some wacky European grammar rule, there's no way someone is a group noun. I really like the idea. I'm not trying to get on you, it's just that it will have more impact if it is grammatically correct and I want it to have more impact.
The french consumer rights association already reacted, they are astonished at what MS is trying to do. There will be blood, and by that I mean tons of bad press, injonction to write on the box warnings for customers, etc.
http://reviewer.lavoixdunord.fr/fr/...-que-choisir-a-microsoft-dans-le-collimateur/
The Have references the amount of months so plural
eg. How many apples does John HAVE to eat before he wins the contest?
eg. John HAS to eat many apples in order to win.
grammar nazi failure
I read it wrong. Kind of you to call me a grammar nazi when I was trying to make something better!
Point #2 has always been the case though. You could have 2 SNES's in the house but only one person could use a game cartridge at a time.
We might already be too late...
What rights exactly? I keep seeing this, but if you read the fine print on any piece of software you bought for your PS3, 360 or Wii/Wii U, you'll see that, in fact you are only ever really licensing a game to begin with and do not in fact "own" it and use is subject to termination at any time. Same goes for music and movies on physical media.
The only difference is that a major hardware manufacturer is implementing a system for content publishers to actually have some control of content on physical media for the first time. And again, this is in no way "anti-consumer" if they tell you what you are getting into upfront. If they pulled this shit a year after release, sure, but as long as they're upfront the point is moot. It's up to consumers to make educated decisions about major electronics purchases.
The Internet check every 24 hours (not a required persistent connection as some seem to believe) does seem a bit absurd to me however, I admit. But it's there in plain English so people should by all rights know what they're getting into when they plunk down four or five hundred bucks on a new entertainment device.
I can understand where publishers are coming from should they choose to lock their software down (and it is a choice, not mandatory) because development costs will continue to rise and they want to recoup as much money as they can from software "sales".
I'm not saying I advocate what Microsoft and presumably the large publishers are doing here, but people really need to learn about what is going on rather than flailing their arms and screaming that their rights are being taken away.
I can understand privacy concerns, since this particular device requires a high resolution camera and microphone array to be connected in order to function, but from the software side I'm just seeing a bunch of people get their panties in a bunch over what amounts to a minor inconvenience.
Also, last I checked a game console was a luxury item. If we were talking about a necessity like your fridge I could see why people would be upset.
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