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[Metfanant]

First number seems a 5:

Also here:

3something with coherent, 5something otherwise

hmm...

DRAM access
CPU-cache-
coherent
36(?)GB/sec

then...

DRAM access
Non-CPU-cache-
coherent
58(?)GB/sec
(Incl coherent 'xxxx')

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

PS4: F-22
XB1: J-20
Wii-U: Iranian Stealth Jet.

Hahaha, Iranian Stealth Jet. I love it

 

[SniperHunter]

PS4: F-22
XB1: J-20
Wii-U: Iranian Stealth Jet.

hahahaha

 

[DopeyFish]

hmm...

DRAM access
CPU-cache-
coherent
36(?)GB/sec

then...

DRAM access
Non-CPU-cache-
coherent
58(?)GB/sec
(Incl coherent 'xxxx')

I think its 30 and 68

And it says "including coherent bw"

 

[ConteZero76]

hmm...

DRAM access
CPU-cache-
coherent
36(?)GB/sec

then...

DRAM access
Non-CPU-cache-
coherent
58(?)GB/sec

5something (including coherent bw), so you top at 5something going full non-coherent, or 3something going full-coherent.
Real top bandwidth in the middle.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

When I pull back the image, it looks closer to 68 but distortion when zoomed is not allowing me to give 100% answer

Up close looks like 56 or 68

I'd have to analyze the pick with different methods, likely.

56. I pulled it up on a 40 inch TV.

PC: Omega Shenron
PS4: SSJ4 Gogeta
XBONE: Piccolo
WiiU: Power LVL 5 Farmer

Spoiler

jk

PC: Bills
PS4: SSJG
Bone: Bone
Wii U: Cookie Monster

 

[famousmortimer]

My personal problem with the DBZ posts is that I've never watched DBZ so all of this tech jargan actually makes more sense to me that whatever 9000x a vegetta is.


On topic... lines up with the leaks. I think Kotaku was the first major site to post the specs so kudos to them.

 

[ConteZero76]

Downgrade from DDR3-2133 to DDR3-1866 (14933MB x 4) confirmed. /joke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM#JEDEC_standard_modules

 

[Piggus]

what the hell is all of this DragonBalls shit?

Shhhh... just let it happen..

 

[Donos]

Who the hell is bills?

Said the same. Reading him up on wikipedia i never thought that DBZ could get even more ridiculous.

 

[FourMyle]

How does that compare to PS4?

PS4 : Krillin
Xbone: Yamcha

 

[Metfanant]

I think its 30 and 68

And it says "including coherent bw"

idk at this point...Jesus, someone needs to give this guys a lesson in snapping pics....at least we get some clear pics from the useless gaming press lol

 

[Dlacy13g]

idk at this point...Jesus, someone needs to give this guys a lesson in snapping pics....at least we get some clear pics from the useless gaming press lol

was thinking the same thing. he snaps pics with the video camera in front of him in focus not the screen....brilliant.

 

[aygomyownroad]

in Trailer Park Boys terms,

PS4: Julian
Xbox One: Ricky
WiiU: Bubbles

PC: Jim Lahey

no way wouldn't WiiU be Corey? And 3ds Trevor?

 

[Metfanant]

5something (including coherent bw), so you top at 5something going full non-coherent, or 3something going full-coherent.
Real top bandwidth in the middle.

if thats the case then im going to assume...

3x full coherent
68 full non-coherent (because this is a number we have been pretty solid on for some time)

then something in the middle is "realistic"

 

[Nafai1123]

Always bet on DBZ.

 

[Piggus]

8gb of flash RAM? Does this mean that they'll start advertising 16gb?

No.

Unless they want to insult the intelligence of their target audience that is.

 

[ConteZero76]

if thats the case then im going to assume...

3x full coherent
68 full non-coherent (because this is a number we have been pretty solid on for some time)

then something in the middle is "realistic"

Is "realistic" "theoretical limit".

 

[Spongebob]

DBZ stuff is annoying...

 

[Angelus Errare]

No.

Unless they want to insult the intelligence of their target audience that is.

They haven't been doing that already?

 

[RoboPlato]

My personal problem with the DBZ posts is that I've never watched DBZ so all of this tech jargan actually makes more sense to me that whatever 9000x a vegetta is.


On topic... lines up with the leaks. I think Kotaku was the first major site to post the specs so kudos to them.

For me it's annoying since I watched most of DBZ but all of the comparisons use characters from after I stopped watching. The tech stuff makes more sense to me too.

 

[Metfanant]

Is "realistic" "theoretical limit".

well the "theoretical limit" is the 68GB/sec number is it not?

 

[BloodMoney]

no way wouldn't WiiU be Corey? And 3ds Trevor?

More than likely. We all know Bubbles has more brain power than Ricky... i was just dropping a deuce joke on the Xbone.

 

[billy323]

I imagine the 8gig flash will probably be used for some kind of sleep function (a bit like Hibernation on windows), where the contents of the ram will be written to it ready for quick power on

 

[ConteZero76]

well the "theoretical limit" is the 68GB/sec number is it not?

If that number is "68" then 68GB/sec seems to be the theoretical limit when you don't use coherency at all.

 

[Daingurse]

Hahhahaa! There we go.

 

[IN&OUT]

Nothing new here, PS4 is still 50% more powerful w/ tighter memory setup.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

I pulled that 0.1TFlops straight out of my ass.

But still, 0.5TFlops is a meaningless therm for me, could someone compare that to a (old) console? Is it like XB1+Dreamcast scenario?

I imagine the 8gig flash will probably be used for some kind of sleep function (a bit like Hibernation on windows), where the contents of the ram will be written to it ready for quick power on

Why not let the ram go sleep directly?

 

[ConteZero76]

I imagine the 8gig flash will probably be used for some kind of sleep function (a bit like Hibernation on windows), where the contents of the ram will be written to it ready for quick power on

Not unless you want your XBox one to die due to FLASH wear out.

 

[Neuro]

Well it has more power than my microwave and hand blender combined

 

[Oppo]

My personal problem with the DBZ posts is that I've never watched DBZ so all of this tech jargan actually makes more sense to me that whatever 9000x a vegetta is.
.

Yeah me too. It's kind of a bummer.

 

[Walshicus]

DBZ stuff is annoying...

This. Shit cartoon, shit memes.


It's interesting to see a lot of these specs confirmed - I'd be interested in knowing more about the audio processor.

 

[dragonelite]

Nothing new here, PS4 is still 50% more powerful w/ tighter memory setup.

More like 40.5% right now.

 

[Frankenstein]

PS4:

Xbox One:

WiiU:

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

No hUMA means it is possibly significantly weaker than PS4.

 

[Piggus]

They haven't been doing that already?

I suppose you're right.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Nothing new here, PS4 is still 50% more powerful w/ tighter memory setup.

The GPU used to be. Up clock changed the numbers to 37% or so. Also, the actual performance probably won't be 37% greater.

EDIT:

My bad, think it's this:

More like 40.5% right now.

 

[Klocker]

No hUMA means it is possibly significantly weaker than PS4.

Msoft XBox One supports shared coherent memory between 8 AMD Jaguar cores and DX 11.1+ GPU like @hsafoundation
https://twitter.com/rickbmerritt/sta...42121777541120

custom solution (not AMD name)for similar result

 

[billy323]

I pulled that 0.1TFlops straight out of my ass.

But still, 0.5TFlops is a meaningless therm for me, could someone compare that to a (old) console? Is it like XB1+Dreamcast scenario?



Why not let the ram go sleep directly?

So you can kill it mid game or what ever you are doing and resume from there

 

[UraMallas]

How many Vitas taped together?

 

[Portugeezer]

slightly better than rumored flop rating i think.

1.3Tflops is spot on what was "guesstimated" since the 53Mhz increase if I am not mistaken.

As for peak bandwidth, sounds like a crock of shit spin.

I pulled that 0.1TFlops straight out of my ass.

But still, 0.5TFlops is a meaningless therm for me, could someone compare that to a (old) console? Is it like XB1+Dreamcast scenario?

A PS4? It's like an Xbox One + 2 Xbox 360's

 

[Azzurri]

PS4: F-22
XB1: J-20
Wii-U: Iranian Stealth Jet.

Made me laugh way too hard.

 

[Suikoguy]

The GPU used to be. Up clock changed the numbers to 37% or so. Also, the actual performance probably won't be 37% greater.

True, it will probably be greater thanks to the memory architecture.

 

[Mory Dunz]

I guess I'm too old for this shit... Have no clue what the hell they are talking about.

The show was 80s/90s. How old are you...?

 

[Skeff]

I pulled that 0.1TFlops straight out of my ass.

But still, 0.5TFlops is a meaningless therm for me, could someone compare that to a (old) console? Is it like XB1+Dreamcast scenario?



Why not let the ram go sleep directly?

XB1 + xb360 + xb360 = PS4

In the sense of pure TFLOPS comparison.

 

[ConteZero76]

No hUMA means it is possibly significantly weaker than PS4.

Msoft XBox One supports shared coherent memory between 8 AMD Jaguar cores and DX 11.1+ GPU like @hsafoundation

Seems hUMA compliant.

 

[Obscured]

Don't care too much about the pissing contest, but I am interested in how devs can make use of this and how it compares to current PC specs and how much headroom is there (meaning is this something they can grow into and we'll see improvement over the expected long life of these consoles)?

Seems like part of the issue with the PS3 the inability to wring out the power inherent in the box. I like the direction that it appears PS4 is going in with keeping it (seemingly) simple and while X1 seems more complex one thing MS always does pretty well is the creation of dev toolsets, so I wouldn't be too concerned in that regard.

What I don't really get yet is what impact these numbers are going to have. Based on what I've seen so far I think I'm going to be pretty happy with both boxes, and while from some of the E3 and Gamescom news seems like resolution and framerate might be concerns, but also seems like some of that could just be the final polishing/optimizing for games. Is it a concern though, that there won't be room for improvement (I'm assuming no and we are going to see some awesome stuff year, year and a half in)

 

[SEGAvangelist]

True, it will probably be greater thanks to the memory architecture.

Possibly. But numbers like 50% greater just because of the GPU difference don't add everything else into the equation.

 

[Suikoguy]

Seems hUMA compliant.

It's not possible.

Possibly. But numbers like 50% greater just because of the GPU difference don't add everything else into the equation.

Yes, it makes comparisons considerably more complicated.

 

[onQ123]

PS4:

Xbox One:

WiiU:

The WiiU got me LOL