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Xbox One supports Suspend/Resume at launch, PS4 doesn't
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Whether it's mentioned (the "aspirational" bit) or not, quite frankly generally when there's talk about "that's the stuff your console will do" I take it as a plan more than anything.
I don't take stuff granted for day 1 etc if it's not explicitely mentioned. If they give a date and then delay it, yeah that's a bummer.
If they're planning to have suspend/resume function, that space/power is already reserved and will remain reserved so there's no 'gain/loss' based on having it or not having it yet. If they decided to never do it, they could release that reserve for future games.
GoofsterStud
Member
Exactly! I'd rather get the resources back if it's a hog.
GPU isn't used for suspend/resume. Xbox has that reserved for Snap and Kinect. Obviously, suspend/resume helps with Snap since applications that are recently used would still be in memory and would snap quickly.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
I wouldn't go as far as to say it was advertised as a 'big' part of the system. A lot of you are blowing this way out of proportion.
If the Share button was disabled even after 1.5? Yeah, that would be reason to be cheesed off. But as it stands you can still multitask with the system and they said sleep/resume is coming shortly after. PS4 will still download stuff in the background and while asleep.
MeBecomingI
Member
Well, that is a shame. Unfortunate, but I guess it is better late than never. It does seem strange that it wouldn't be ready to go but they've been talking about since the PS4 was announced. Oh well.
PS4 pre-order canceled.
Kacho
Member
I think most are saying that in a joking manner, but if they are being serious I'm not sure why that would matter to anyone here.
Genuine question , when was it "showcased".
I'd seen it mentioned, but never at the forefront of any feature list.
Are people misinterpreting this as no multitasking period, or are they really trying to paint the picture that Sony had this front and centre in their marketing ?
It's an OS feature, it will be supported at the OS level.
geordiemp
Member
I think its just sarcasm (as in who cares)
Very good point. People here will fob-off the significance of this because, well it's PS4 and not Xbox One.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Watch them cancel then it's available two weeks later in a update.
I realize most of them are joking, I just wonder why anyone preordered in the first place if they cancel because sleep mode isn't in at launch.
Mr Moose
Member
Multitasking? I thought it was about when the PS4/game goes into sleep mode, you can start it back up from the "low power state" and continue playing.
Aww man now I am confused...
mekes
Member
I'm only slightly disappointed that it wont be there for launch. I want it to be patched in and I hope it will be within 6 months, any longer than that and I'll start to worry about its inclusion. Its by no means a deal breaker, not in the slightest, I'm very happy with news of how the console is shaping up and I regard this as the first negative news for PS4 since February, which is a great achievement for Sony in my opinion.
Its only a minor disappointment to me, I'm sure I'll live.
Its only a minor disappointment to me, I'm sure I'll live.
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
Preorder... suspended?
Caayn
Member
Xbox One has the same ability as the vita. It's only the PS4 that doesn't have it ready on launch.
Multitasking? I thought it was about when the PS4/game goes into sleep mode, you can start it back up from the "low power state" and continue playing.
Aww man now I am confused...
I think a lot of people are thinking that you cant press guide button, go to ui load up netflix , watch a video , play a PSN game and then resume the game from where you left it.
Games are still going to work like they do on say iOS and Vita, you just can't put it into a standby mode and go away for hours/days/weeks/whatever.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Finally, the monotony has been broken.
Mr Moose
Member
Oh sweet, so I understood it correctly? It's not really an issue then, I don't leave games for that long without playing them, I quit and go back to them later.
Red Mage
Member
Can you really not understand why people would see this as a pot shot? The fact that, rather than remove the comment that's derailing your own thread (and doesn't contribute to the discussion), you added a justification and continue to argue about makes it seem like you're fishing for trouble.
Jesus, it's not that deep guys.
Do you like, unplug every electrical device or just your console? I don't understand why people do this.
Do you like, unplug every electrical device or just your console? I don't understand why people do this.
Wonder Cheese
Banned
I sure hope not, that would be quite an overreaction.
I unplug everything apart from my router at night, shit can't go on fire when it's not plugged in.
I know it's not the norm , I just don't like shit being plugged into electrical sockets when not in use, especially when it's literally a flick of a switch to turn them back on in the morning.
SPACECADET
Member
that's ok.
SeaOfMadness
Member
If Forza can do it [1080p], multiplat devs will be able to do it eventually too. You have to imagine first party devs have a much better line on the way to do things than 3rd party devs and eventually that info and those best practices will get shared so everyone can benefit. The same thing happened to PS3 initially, IIRC.
Multi tasking is still there, you can suspend the game, go do some OS stuff and resume the game, the only thing missing is the low power state suspend. The only thing missing essentially is saving 3c on power when leaving a game paused.
Edit: Or did you mean Penello? If so, no idea.
To be fair, most people haven't.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yep, the PS4 definitely wasn't ready for a 2013 launch.
See what I did there?
Can't fathom how that one took 12 pages. Y'all are slipping.
Pre-order preordered.
PS
That's one weird feature to be missing on stock firmware.
I wish they supported PC though.
USB cable or BT =>. PC => yeehaa.
PS
That's one weird feature to be missing on stock firmware.
I wish they supported PC though.
USB cable or BT =>. PC => yeehaa.
LiquidSolid
Member
You mean Penello's response? We have no idea but I'm guessing he was referring to multitasking. Not saying that the Xbone's sleep mode won't be there at launch either, I just doubt Penello understood the question properly. When talking about Suspend/Resume, the first thing that comes to mind is multitasking, not sleep mode.
I'm generally known as a "Microsoft guy" (mostly because I own more games on that system and people are bad at classification) but this information doesn't bother me. What has always bothered me however is when companies (and Sony does this often) uses deliberate misleading, knowing people will assume, to push their products. It's common for them.
And before people say, "Well all companies do it," they don't. Not doing this also doesn't mean you're suddenly awesome, either.
I dislike it when people hide information and I tend to treat companies like individual persons.
I usually stay away from Sony at parties but we sometimes hang in small groups. I don't plan on giving Sony the keys to my house and my children will never call him "uncle."
Even though this information dropped, I'm still super excited about the dual console festival I'll be having in less than a month.
DAMN MAN! A MONTH!
In all seriousness though, looking through the firmware that Sony has released for PS3, we'll probably see it within the first three to six months, along with a slough of other, mostly useless to the majority, additions such as "BluRay Zoom" or "adding aspect ratio options." In the end people will forget this once they see their Shadowfall playing for the first time. Or playing Resogun.
-Adam
And before people say, "Well all companies do it," they don't. Not doing this also doesn't mean you're suddenly awesome, either.
I dislike it when people hide information and I tend to treat companies like individual persons.
I usually stay away from Sony at parties but we sometimes hang in small groups. I don't plan on giving Sony the keys to my house and my children will never call him "uncle."
Even though this information dropped, I'm still super excited about the dual console festival I'll be having in less than a month.
DAMN MAN! A MONTH!
In all seriousness though, looking through the firmware that Sony has released for PS3, we'll probably see it within the first three to six months, along with a slough of other, mostly useless to the majority, additions such as "BluRay Zoom" or "adding aspect ratio options." In the end people will forget this once they see their Shadowfall playing for the first time. Or playing Resogun.
-Adam
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
I didn't even know Xbox one could do that.
But if you're going to compare features that are important this really isn't on the list IMO.
But if you're going to compare features that are important this really isn't on the list IMO.
It's quite important. Especially given how long it's probably going to take to load games again this gen. It's been one of the features that is consistently listed among the coolest reasons to buy a new console.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Considering no one has played either console in normal conditions I find it hard to be convinced long load times are a given
It might be a cool reason to own thr console and I'm excited about it too but it's kind of like... Every other home console ever has not had this feature so its not like we haven't dealt with it before. Up until controllers weren't wireless we would never turn the console on remotely. Now we can't even dream of that being a possibility. Sometimes there's a transitionary period into something like that.
But being able to turn a console on from your seat never impacted the quality of games or anything substantial like that. It's a quality of life change and not something that will be used to say "this makes the games better"
HawksWinStanley
Member
Just one of the many reasons why I'm not buying at launch.
They havent, i honestly didnt know it was even a feature, i think many are getting confused with mutli tasking resume and standby resume.
That was mutli task resume which is still there day one.
Proelite
Member
This should be one of the biggest if not the biggest improvements of this generation over the previous generation. The ability to multitask and suspend and resume.
At least background downloading and updating is in.
Sorry to say but Sony fucked up by not getting it on launch day.
I am fearful about all the bugs present on day one for both consoles.
At least background downloading and updating is in.
Sorry to say but Sony fucked up by not getting it on launch day.
I am fearful about all the bugs present on day one for both consoles.