Exactly. That's all this will be. They're not going to do something as stupid as put a 4.5 better hardware system out there.
b-but muh Final Fantasy XV 4k60fps
Exactly. That's all this will be. They're not going to do something as stupid as put a 4.5 better hardware system out there.
Anybody for this is a sucker.Like I said in the last thread, anybody who doesn't want this just sounds selfish to me.
Your PS4 games will still work. Your future PS4 games will still work. You don't like this cause you don't want to spend money for the best product? That's fine, but why keep it from everybody else?!?
Slim models happen every gen now, and some come with more benefits other than a size cut.
Because he wants everyone on the same playing field, and not to feel like his hardware is inferior.
Like I said in the last thread, anybody who doesn't want this just sounds selfish to me.
Your PS4 games will still work. Your future PS4 games will still work. You don't like this cause you don't want to spend money for the best product? That's fine, but why keep it from everybody else?!?
I mean technically they can then run on 4k when all the standard are met. Like Frogger or something, yeah.Kotaku's sources explicitly mentioned games running at 4k.
So this is really a hardware revision.
Option 1 it is.
Yeah, I get it. Some games will probably perform better and that'll be it. I just want some benefits for those not interested on 4K yet.
Really hoping for option 1. Go all the way.Kotaku's sources explicitly mentioned games running at 4k.
So this is really a hardware revision.
Option 1 it is.
Exactly. That's all this will be. They're not going to do something as stupid as put a 4.5 better hardware system out there.
Kotaku's sources explicitly mentioned games running at 4k.
So this is really a hardware revision.
Option 1 it is.
Okay, let's look at this logically;
- Some additional hardware is required to output 4K media
- Some additional hardware is required to work with PSVR
It makes a lot of manufacturing sense that if you're doing a hardware revision to cover one thing, that you might as well cover both at the same time.
The only people that 'miss out' are the early adopters who bought the non-4K PS4s and the breakout box-required PSVR bundles. But they're early adopters, they don't get to complain about things like later hardware revisions, and will also probably be the first people lining up to buy the new SKU anyway.
Would be hilarious if it's just a PS4 slim with 4K output for media.
Quoting myself, they might be just doing this: "As for games, they will be exactly the same as PS4 games currently. The only exception might be an update to the SDK to allow UI elements to be rendered at 4K on top of the regular framebuffer at 1080p so the UI/HUD doesn't look blurry. They may also throw in some new hardware solution to do the best possible upscale."
Would be hilarious if it's just a PS4 slim with 4K output for media.
Anybody for this is a sucker.
See how that works its idiotic
Some people don't like the idea because it breaks the illusion that "my console is a beast". With static hardware they can still believe that what they own is something special, with hardware upgrades it reminds them that any hardware is obsolete from the day it releases, because technology always improves.
As far as I'm concerned I'm in favour of such upgrades if only because it may help killing the cult of resolution/framerate in console gaming. Hopefully some people will realise those aren't that fundamental and you can still have fun if you're not playing the "superior version".
I mean im kinda for it too(need more info) its silly that for the last 4 threads people not for this happening for whatever reason gt called all these different things.selfish,cheap,entitled,poor etcNot even sure what you're trying to say. I'm looking at this as a PS4 Slim with some new features until Sony officially says otherwise.
I think 4k tv owners will welcome this. I walked into best buy the other day and was kinda disappointed I couldn't try those new 4k/uhd blu-rays out on my ps4.
That's exactly why some people don't like this. I don't mean to sound like a dick about it. I understand money doesn't grow on trees and it's understandable to be a little upset your "relatively new" product isn't so "new" anymore. But at the same time just because your yard doesn't grow, mine shouldn't grow either is just selfish.
My 980 Ti struggles to do 4K and it's the size of half the damn console. I don't think you'll be seeing the new PS4 doing 4K anytime soon.
But with upgraded internals, what does that mean for regular gaming? I expect it will help keep Sony competitive with VR (obviously).
Will this fracture the market for developers?
.I doubt we are going to see any performance improvements in an iterative console like this, I think it will just support what Eurogamer mentioned (support for 4K, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2 and HDR and a new 4K BluRay player) with enhanced multimedia capabilities being the focus (bundled with the BluRay Remote etc.).
As for games, they will be exactly the same as PS4 games currently. The only exception might be an update to the SDK to allow UI elements to be rendered at 4K on top of the regular framebuffer at 1080p so the UI/HUD doesn't look blurry. They may also throw in some new hardware solution to do the best possible upscale.
I mean im kinda for it too(need more info) its silly that for the last 4 threads people not for this happening for whatever reason gt called all these different things.selfish,cheap,entitled,poor etc
Even if this isn't a huge hardware upgrade, I hope MS/Sony go to a yearly refresh cycle. When they went with X86/64, they broke the shackles of the console generation. The user base doesn't reset with new hardware anymore, and we can get upgraded standards (HDMI 2.0, AC Wireless, USB 3.1). A yearly refresh will make sure I will always have an upgrade path that suites my needs.
Well sorry at least you agree just got tired of all the shit flinging because some others aren't on board(yet).I only used selfish. Those other words are kinda pushing it. Just because you don't like upgrading doesn't make you poor, entitled or cheap.
How is it not selfish?
4K for games... Probably only for indie 2D platforms...
My main point was already in my previous post, but I'll repeat. Even if we get a significantly more powerful console, it is practically impossible that Sony will not abandon suppport for the OG PS4. They have been making all the right moves this gen, there is no way they will ruin it all with one disastrous move. So, with the OG PS4 to develop games for as well, we'll be seeing something very similar to cross gen games anyway. I know PC gamers love GPU tech constantly getting improved, but the chance for a big leap in visuals with the release of this hypothetical PS4.5 is next to none. In the meantime, enjoy Star Citizen!Hardware stagnation is my arch enemy, so you can imagine how ecstatic I'm at the prospect of more powerful fixed platforms to be released.
I think the time is right for an hardware upgrade, it makes perfect sense considering PS VR and 4K gaming on the rise.
Option 3 would crush me, honestly.
That would add additional and unnecessary cost to add the VR breakout box.
They will want to keep the price low to compete with other 4K media players.
The VR breakout box will stay bundled with the headset unless VR really takes off.
We all know how loud the current model can get at 1080p, are we really expecting a slim model that can output 4k?
I can't see it being a slim AND output at a higher res.
But, this is Sony and they pulled off some magic cramming all the current tech in the normal PS4, so...
Very interesting now.
Well sorry at least you agree just got tired of all the shit flinging because some others aren't on board(yet).
As far as selfish I've seen some selfish ass posts I'll give u that.
Exactly but hey -- there's something out there that's better so I automatically got "screwed"!
I could understand some of these replies if the PS4.5 would instantly end support of the PS4 but there are absolutely no signs of that at all.
Not sure why people buy tech early if they don't like the possibility of what they have being outdated by a newer/updated model. It's silly in my opinion.
So, this is more or less a PS4 Slim with 4K options and being slightly faster (something along the lines of the PSP 1000 too PSP 2000 jump)?
Sounds a lot better then what the original rumor indicates honestly .
I could care less about 4K, so if that is only the 'big' selling point to PS4K, then their really is no point for me to get one !
Great! I can get a PS4 this year with little worry about a massive upgrade making my new console out-dated in 1-2 years. Thank you for covering this OP .
It specifically rumors more power is being given to developers. I don't get where all of you claiming it is just for 4K media.
Maybe this one will be able to run Dark Souls 3 at 30FPS.
Maybe this one will be able to run Dark Souls 3 at 30FPS.
I wouldn't just assume this, there is still a chance the 4K version could still be slightly more powerful.
You're assuming the tech inside the breakout box can only be used for the specific purposes of the breakout box though; if that tech handles everything necessary for 4k media output (all the DRM mechanisms, frame scaling, HDMI 2.0 and USB 3) it makes more sense to just integrate that on a redesigned mobo than to create a second bespoke solution.
The only people with 'wasted' tech would be people who buy a PS4k and already own a PSVR with breakout box bundle, and it lets future SKUs bundle just a headset much more easily.
Eh?
I think people are fine with a new PS4 that just adds 4k media and upscaled gaming support and that's it.
Where there's a problem is people don't want a massive upgrade that leaves them far behind. I can already even picture exclusive games that are totally gimped on the older model PS4
If it's like that PSP 1000->2000 update then they are no issues as the games run essentially the same on both hardware.