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Eurogamer: Independently confirms source that the PS4.5 is real, referred as PS 4K
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Movalpolos
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You are making quite a few assumptions. It will be a super appealing 4k Blu-Ray player and Sony has sold many many consoles on the back of their consoles being good for that.
gunslikewhoa
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Yep. This is sounding more and more like something that would make no difference to me whatsoever.
They lied but arent going to fix it. Truthfully I haven't ran into a loud one yet out of all my friends. It's probably the most silent console I own next to the wii. (The disc drive was concerning at first cause I was like what was that but really that only last a few seconds after start up to see what game it is.)
SmartWaffles
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Both console will run the same games with same network capabilities, it is hardly splitting userbase.
I think the most logical expectation from this mess is that the PS4K will be able to display movies/media at 4K while games are upscaled into 4K.
The power jump would be like the PSP 2000 jump in power compared to the PSP 1000; a bit faster and a bit more powerful; games still run the same but some run slightly better with the new hardware (something like the GTA PSP games come to mind).
If its ANYTHING more then this though, I'm done with Sony systems.
Blackleg-sanji1
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No one knows so we can't answer this 100% but i can't see them fucking over their current userbase...but i can't say they wont start too either. Need more info on how they plan on doing this
Movalpolos
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Upscaled maybe. Not native.
CyberPunked
Member
Whatever reduces the amount of games that get downgraded because of weak consoles I'm happy.
I seriously hope this is it.
But I thought the PS4 already had the ability to support 4K? At least in blue rays anyway. Though I appreciate it's not on the cards yet.
No.
All games for the next many years will release as PS4 games.
These games will include higher graphical presets & hardware tuning for owners of PS4K.
When the PS5 comes around you will first then start to see games dropping PS4 support (but not PS4K).
Exactly how this is going to work for me. This secures that enough exclusive titles pile up in the meantime. No more day one for me.
Solrac
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i dont want this on ps4 games, running at 20 on old model and 30 with new one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p0pI018jQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p0pI018jQ0
Mac@NeoGAF
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I don't see what good a x2 increase in GPU power is when 4K pushes x4 the number of pixels.
Sidewinder
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Whatever it is, Sony better come out with their plans before the PSVR launch!
Backfoggen
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HDR in games is enough to get me excited.
Having this ps4.5/4k/slim doesn't rule out that the current ps4 can be updated to support uhd blurays.
I thought that was the obvious answer no idea where the Gaming in 4K rumour came from, some games could certainly benefit from the slight power increases but they sure as hell were not going to be natively displayed in 4K resolution.
matrix-cat
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Eventually you're going to have games like Just Cause 3 running at 20 on the new one and like 13 on the old one.
Really hoping this is just a PS3 Slim situation, where they're just updating the look and slapping the new HDMI port in there to support the new Blu Ray format.
The best thing would be to just enter generations mid way with a hardware upgrade.
Let the early adopters be guinea pigs for all the new games then get the greatly improved model down the line with all enhancements for old and new software.
Fuck me that all sounds depressing though.
This is the only way they can do it to not annoy and confuse current PS4 owners.
Do this new PS4 in a way that genuinely makes no perceptible difference to the 40m+ players out there.
Another great bonus to a potentially all round shit situation lol
Blackleg-sanji1
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This actually is my biggest concern actually. They need to say something about this plz? I need to know before i drop $500 on a psvr bundle and than later they announce a ps4 that can run it better
thekiddfran
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A LOT of people want consoles to more or less become PC Boxes that you buy every 1-2 years. Just look at the PS4.5 Thread, a scary number of people are find shelling out 400$ every year or so for a new PlayStation.
So people who bought the console 2 years ago will now have to buy the upgraded console if they want the best performance when it should be the best performance out of the box?
it goes against the whole idea of a console
I bought the PS4 at launch thinking I would get Uncharted 4 the way it was meant to played.
Sony has a good track record this generation and no doubt has some experienced financial advisors. I wouldn't worry about the health of their playstation brand.
Most casuals planning on buying a ps4 probably don't even know this is happening. They were still selling PS3's even with PS4 release dates around the corner.
What if this model releases next year though?
googleplex
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To be fair these are more hyped up leaks then press coverage.
JimiNutz
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I'm only interested if its a significant upgrade for gaming purposes.
Not expecting 4k resolutions for gaming but would hope for double the resolution and/or frame rate compared to PS4 games. For example I'd expect a new PS4 game that ran at 900p and 30 FPS to run on PS4.5 at 900p and 60 FPS or even 1080p and 60 FPS.
If there aren't significant improvement in gaming performance then its really not worth it.
Not expecting 4k resolutions for gaming but would hope for double the resolution and/or frame rate compared to PS4 games. For example I'd expect a new PS4 game that ran at 900p and 30 FPS to run on PS4.5 at 900p and 60 FPS or even 1080p and 60 FPS.
If there aren't significant improvement in gaming performance then its really not worth it.
Beautiful Ninja
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The most likely scenario is that we're getting a PS4 that does 4K native output for media applications. Mostly that means HDMI 2.0 support so you can get 4k at 60hz, right now it would be limited to 24hz on PS4's as that's all the bandwidth of 1.4 can support. I suspect we'll also see improvements to the hardware scaler to account for 4k TV's.
This seems like it's more for Netflix than for games.
It will be like optimizing for 1.1x platforms to hit XXmillion users instead of 1x platform. It's not much extra work, insignificant compared to the whole game development process itself.
If the PS4K is using AMD Polaris then it's very, very close to PS4 in architecture (it's a newer version is all, same overall flow).
Blackleg-sanji1
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Id still wait if its better performance. All this is going to do moving foward is lowee the number of early adopters. Now if its just for a slim type deal meh.
Gotta feel bad for everyone buying the PSVR headsets and don't buy this new console. Its pretty much guaranteed the new console will output better visuals and provide a better VR experience. Its probably why they are doing this to begin with.
Sony is fucked up for doing this but at the same time they have no choice but to chase the VR train otherwise you could get left behind and lose out on a lot of money.
Sony is fucked up for doing this but at the same time they have no choice but to chase the VR train otherwise you could get left behind and lose out on a lot of money.
Lmao
So the more I see of this, the more I get the impression that Sony wants to launch DSi equivalents mid-generation going forward as opposed to totally upending their console cycle.
Or in other words, having a 6 year cycle for primary iterations, but an upgraded model halfway through to make the idea of 6 year old technology seem less archaic.
Or in other words, having a 6 year cycle for primary iterations, but an upgraded model halfway through to make the idea of 6 year old technology seem less archaic.
Movalpolos
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Sony JUST announced the release of PSVR. They are not going to do anything right now that might confuse consumers further.
What my gut is telling me is that Kotaku got some of this info wrong. I think there was some misunderstanding and possibly some conjecture was added based on the info.
Summer Haze
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If this means I'll see 60fps more often then I'm down for it.
That's a solid plan, I hope you remember this in 2025.
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