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4 dead in Colorado shooting
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Thank you, it's refreshing to see foreign posters actually give us condolences rather than mocking us for laws that we have hardly any control of.
I'm sure they'll manage. Modern hunting is like playing sports on steroids anyway.
FBI put out a warning for today that a group had been threatening to do random shootings across the country to try and lure Police into ambush situations. This doesn't seem to be that but hopefully we don't see anything crazy tonight
Mental health evaluations and closing loopholes would do quite a bit. It seems in fact that you are actually proposing things that would have negligible to almost no effect.
While this is a rare case where a rifle was actually used you will find that gun violence is almost exclusively in the handgun camp yet nothing is ever proposed on hand guns. Make a real effort on handgun control as far as mandatory training, better checks, any kind of mental issue past or present an automatic disqualifier etc. and you will see an impact
Mental health evaluations and closing loopholes would do quite a bit. It seems in fact that you are actually proposing things that would have negligible to almost no effect.
While this is a rare case where a rifle was actually used you will find that gun violence is almost exclusively in the handgun camp yet nothing is ever proposed on hand guns. Make a real effort on handgun control as far as mandatory training, better checks, any kind of mental issue past or present an automatic disqualifier etc. and you will see an impact
It will happen since I doubt the governments likes having to deal with these dipshits it's just that politicians can't really take an open stance against the nra but all organizations loose their stranglehold over time.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
well yeah I guess
Very sad. We need change.
True. I'd change it to "99.99% of gun owners are not deranged" to make it more clear.
There's an estimated 100 million gun owners in the US (about 1/3rd of the population) and about 300 million guns circulating ownership.
But I still support much tougher gun laws.
True. I'd change it to "99.99% of gun owners are not deranged" to make it more clear.
There's an estimated 100 million gun owners in the US (about 1/3rd of the population) and about 300 million guns circulating ownership.
But I still support much tougher gun laws.
Bornstellar
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Stereotypes, how do they work?
Extra Sauce
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Giving pet names to inanimate objects is about as reasoned as it gets.
Nobody has a need for a gun that can shoot and kill other human targets a kilometer away from you.
Let's start with that 2% and work towards eliminating the rest.
PeteZaTheHutt
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Don't forget to use proper gun terms either. Because when you interchange terms such as clip and magazine, the argument is immediately over (even though your point is understood) and your completely sensible and logical argument is rendered null and void.
MatrixMan.EXE
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This just gives me a headache.
Better tell boat owners they crazy!
Sure, I guess if you're a trained marksmen from the army/law enforcement? Also hunting rifles are far better set up for long range shooting than ARs are. You're making a better argument for banning hunting rifles.
Garrett 2U
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Can we try something new soon?
Crossing our fingers that 'responsible gun owners' will stop mass shootings is not working.
Crossing our fingers that 'responsible gun owners' will stop mass shootings is not working.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Nope. Impossible because we wouldn't want to infringe upon anyone's right to have fun with Carly!
lol, naming boats is a tradition going back hundreds of years.
It's not the same as giving a cute pet name to an object meant for killing, but sure ok
Dubbedinenglish
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Only the military should have them. You're rarely shooting targets over a football field away from you while hunting, anyway - the AR-15's range is over 10x that.
Source: am/was hunter. Bow hunting and blackpowder are more popular amongst hunters than tacticool jimmy showing up to hunt deer with his AR-15 he got last week.
NeoGold123
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You don't think some caveman lovingly called his spear "UURRRAGGGAH"?
"not everyone is deranged so let me keep my gun" is like saying "not everyone is a terrible drunk driver so let me drive drunk". Good for you, but it's not why it's a problem. It's much safer to just outright ban it.
The argument is up there in stupidity with "criminals will break the law!"
well duh no shit that's what laws are for, that's literally why we have them. by that logic we should have no law since criminals break them anyway.
The argument is up there in stupidity with "criminals will break the law!"
well duh no shit that's what laws are for, that's literally why we have them. by that logic we should have no law since criminals break them anyway.
That shit drives me nuts. Like a cannibal telling you it actually doesn't taste of chicken ergo you are wrong to object to it.
Extra Sauce
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Stuff happens.
Brawndo Addict
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Sourcing from WAPO article: 11 Essential Facts About Gun Violence. Compared to other countries America is much more prone to gun violence, although it has been declining.
However, some research suggests that although overall gun violence is trending down, "active shooter" events have been trending up. Active shooting incidents are defined by federal agencies as "an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area." (This is different from mass killings, which are episodes where three or more people are killed; while many active shooting incidents wind up being mass killings, more than half of the episodes in the FBI study did not meet that definition.)
All that said, tens of thousands of people die from gun related violence every year in the United States, so making a thread for every single occurrence doesn't really make a lot of sense in my opinion.
Yep. There's no guarantee that a gun-owner that's psychologically healthy will remain free of depression or mental illness for the remainder of his or her life too.
People crack sometimes.
umm what
That doesn't mean we can't take measures to prevent at least some of these shootings form occurring.
That's also weird, yes.
Elfforkusu
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AngryNapkin
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I live in the Springs and this is the first I've heard of it. Mother in Law called the wife and was like wtf, I shrugged it off and got back to Uncharted 2 Remastered.
"Fuck off, I like guns".
Aeriscloud
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Never. Gun lives are far more important than actual lives, didn't you know?
People aren't even so much as attempting to find out if the weapon was purchased legally or not in this thread.
Like...
ugh
shit like this
RPGCrazied
Member
Jesus. I hope Clinton wins the election to start doing something about this shit.
This has been said a million times, but a lot of people lost hope after Sandy Hook. If there's a mass shooting where most of the victims were children and that didn't change anything, it's not hard to see why some people have come to the conclusion that we are basically doomed when it comes to this nation passing sensible gun control legislation.
I still think we can do it but it's going to take a huge progressive wave, not only in Washington but at the state level. So... maybe in another 10-20 years.
She won't be able to do any better or worse than Obama on the issue...
entremet
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She will be limited by Congress. Congress drafts the laws. Obama would have done something if he could, but there are limits to the Executive Branch powers.
Aeriscloud
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Prepare, they are coming.
RPGCrazied
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She stated she would use executive orders for stricter background checks and closing loopholes, specially at gun shows. Basically anyone can get one at one of those. Its a start at least.
Hunting reasons. But seriously, why in the flying fuck aren't assault rifles banned? We ban grenades, rocket launchers, etc., but we keep allowing weapons that can kill dozens in a few seconds to be sold?Why should anyone be able to own an AR-15?
I just don't get it.
minor effort
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"Hey, rocket launchers are fun. I like shooting mine. Who says I shouldn't be able to own one? You just don't know enough about them."
Gordon Shumway
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"I need a rocket launcher for hunting, have you seen the Deer these days?"
Assault rifles are heavily restricted. The term Assault Weapon was a made up category to trick the American People into thinking action was being taken.
The AR-15 is no different than the M1 Garand except it has been made to look like an Assault Rifle
Some people want to feel safe and not dependent on the state to provide that protection. *shrug* I don't really think that's too wrong.
That picture is hilariously tacticool though. All the mods may add up to costing more than the weapon itself.
But its just 5.56 at the end of the day. There are 'hunting' weapons that pack far more firepower. Shotguns are just as deadly if not more in crowds... meh
And that's perfectly okay.
Small dick and all... its got zero to do with someone picking up a weapon and killing a bunch of random people. Guys who have a dozen weapons at home that are not killing or planning to kill a mob shouldn't be put on the spot for shit that they have no relation to.
RunWhiteBoyRun
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Springs in not that bad. Some areas suck. Recreational weed is not legal in town, but it's a 20-35 minute drive to the closest shop.
This shooting happened within 2 blocks of the center of Downtown basically. A few more blocks North and this would've been at the college.
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