AuthenticM
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That is certainly some Dragon Quest music! It's giving me the urge to replay Dragon Quest Builders.
Looking forward to playing this.
Looking forward to playing this.
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6 Dragon Quest XI gameplay videos, 3 PS4 and 3 3DS
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PS4 looks nice but those sounds... What's the point of keeping old school sounds anyway? I've played all DQs throughout the years and those sounds sure don't bring any nostalgia in me when mixed with those graphics, they just seem outta place and bad.
Same goes for the menus. Having Toriyama and the same old bestiary is enough to market it as a DQ, they don't need to keep these ugly menus around.
Same goes for the menus. Having Toriyama and the same old bestiary is enough to market it as a DQ, they don't need to keep these ugly menus around.
Aside from the 2D version, the menu style is pretty heavily upgraded from the classic style.
I personally love hearing the stairstep sound and casting sound in every game. It's one of the many reasons why playing a DQ game feels like coming home. I was sad to hear them removed in the NA version of DQ8, but it sounds like they made the right decision since apparently hearing an 8-bit sound effect causes some people to have an aneurysm.
Would more modern sound effects really stop you from enjoying the game though? Why is it ok for graphics to evolve, yet sounds cannot?
Persona is a good example of good evolution for me. You still find yourself at home (having the same bestiary, spells, velvet room, etc.), yet it didn't stop them from upgrading everything else and the game surely benefited from it. I'm not expecting the same kind of work for a DQ, but they surely could go further in their rework. I mean, it's like Mario had the same old jump sound from the NES era. It would just be weird.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Yup. The game has you stick to one or the other after a certain point early on, though you can still switch styles at will by going to the church. Amazing amount of effort they put into that whole system.
Lots of ppl complaining about the visuals on the 3DS version, but I actually find them really charming in a low-fi kind of way.
I was actually thinking the same. Maybe it's just with how compact everything ends up being on 3DS, but everything seems a lot busier there.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
The ps4 version looks amazing.
SpiceMelange
Member
The ps4 version looks like my dream DQ game. I don't mind the music quality but the actual compositions are pretty all over/aimless yeah, I'm not digging the battle music so far. Anyway my only worry is that the game could be a short one, like DQ4 (25 hours-ish). The only reason I have this fear is because of how goddamn fast they made this game (just under two years).
Persona is a much younger series (
and even younger than it actually is for some people who think the series started at 3
But regardless, DQ has grown up a certain way. That's what makes it unique and special for a lot of people. Understandably, that also puts some people off. But there's no point in making a dramatic change now when the creators are all old and it'll piss off the existing fanbase in exchange for some unknown potential number of new fans.
I agree. I think both versions look pretty great in their own way.
The fact that they divided 3D and 2D into separate modes makes the 3DS version less interesting though. I liked the constant comparison between the two styles. Without it, the 3D part is still charming but it having neither stereo 3D nor 3D/2D side by side means I would now choose the PS4 version over the 3DS one. The PS4 version might mix contradictory styles but I don't mind that much and at least it can be played on TV.
The 3DS version looks incredible to me. The way it's pushing the hardware with open spaces is just extremely impressive to me considering how few compromises are being made to the level of detail. The castle city in the first video is particularly complex/dense in a way that you really don't see on the 3DS. The color pallete is still kind of blown out but it's not as bad as it was in the 3DS version of DQ8.
It would also probably not look anywhere near as nice because of the technical strain supporting the 3D feature has.
How much fps does the 3DS version currently? I wouldn't mind getting a lower fps with stereo 3D on.
My bad. I stand corrected.
Both look and play nicely
Happy that the localisation delay will probably allow me to understand how the switch version will be before getting 3ds/ps4 one because in this moment I wouldn't know which one I would prefer
So I hope switch version will include both in docked or handheld mode lol
Happy that the localisation delay will probably allow me to understand how the switch version will be before getting 3ds/ps4 one because in this moment I wouldn't know which one I would prefer
So I hope switch version will include both in docked or handheld mode lol
Looks like 30 but it's hard to really know how stable it will be until we see the final version. I was under the impression that low FPS was usually pretty disruptive to stereo 3D. I think they also want to focus on the swap back and forth between the 2D visual style and the fully rendered 3D world, rather than swapping between stereo 3D being on and off.
Would different sounds really piss of so many old fans though? I genuinely wonder about that. They were able to accept modern graphics and seeing their heroes in combat, would sound really ruin their game?
added_time
Member
Love that 2D mode!
Don't get me wrong i love Dragon Quest music but i expected the ps4 version to atleast use the modern video game quality of music.
Sound quality updates or orchestrated music greatly benefited old school series like Zelda, Castlevania, Metroid, Metal Gear Solid, Mario, Final Fantasy and more.
So i dunno how it won't be great for Dragon Quest too.
PS i will ofcourse still get the game:>
Sound quality updates or orchestrated music greatly benefited old school series like Zelda, Castlevania, Metroid, Metal Gear Solid, Mario, Final Fantasy and more.
So i dunno how it won't be great for Dragon Quest too.
PS i will ofcourse still get the game:>
VR requires high frame rates to keep camera input lag low, or you would get motion sick (game logic may update at 30 fps or even lower). Low frame rate in regular stereo 3D is just rough, as it is in 2D as well, but there's no particular requirement for a high frame rate in stereo 3D. I guess DQXI could do 20 fps stereo if it is stable 30 fps without. Half the resolution, double the required frames. Wouldn't be great but I'd appreciate the option.
Waldo Lydecker
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Any chance on getting symphonical music in the EU version of DQXI, just like with DQVIII?
It is great, and Sugiyama knows it. He has said publicly that he wants to save the orchestra for CDs and concerts, because he knows people want it. He's kind of an asshole.
Man, this sounds like the perfect podcast game. I wouldn't be able to ekeep listening to° that music very long. Also, I could deal with the simple but somewhat charming environments look, but I'm not a fan of the characters' cel shaded look. It's like they don't belong to the same game. The first impression is that this game looks like a PS2 game. Kinda disappoiting.
Buggy Loop
Member
Oooof that midi soundtrack. It's been a long time since i've heard something like that. I guess i'd get used to it after a while, DQVIII afterall was ok if i remember. Just sad that it could have been so much more with an orchestral version. Does Enix get the short end of the stick for budgets @ SE ?
SpiceMelange
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Nah I'd bet it's Sugiyama being a dick. Also from what I understand his music is licensed by SEnix, he's not paying paid as an employee to do music as a propriety of SE. He's probably holding SE by the balls for his CDs and concerts.
The n00b Avenger
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Sugiyama is the one guy from the trio that I certainly wouldn't mind getting kicked out and replaced.
He's been nothing but detrimental for the past few years.
He's been nothing but detrimental for the past few years.
Actually both Sugiyama and Toriyama seem to want to be out of the franchise, going by their comments. Sugiyama straight admitted he's out of ideas for new compositions for the series. And Toriyama said if he had known the series would go on for so long he'd never accepted doing the character designs.
They're doing a double pack
Unfortunately, it doesn't work out to be a discount. It's exactly the same price as the two together, but you get the extra packaging stuff.
I really want this to be good, and the trailers do look nice. I'm only interested in the PS4 version so I didn't watch and can't comment on the 3DS videos.
None of the DQ games since part 8 have really appealed to me so I hope this one changes that. I will ALWAYS love old-school turn-based jrpgs, ever since I can remember I've kept a jrpg in my "currently playing" game rotation (always just one at a time though, I only have room for one horribly confusing and convoluted story in my memory at a time)
None of the DQ games since part 8 have really appealed to me so I hope this one changes that. I will ALWAYS love old-school turn-based jrpgs, ever since I can remember I've kept a jrpg in my "currently playing" game rotation (always just one at a time though, I only have room for one horribly confusing and convoluted story in my memory at a time)
Ah that's a pretty sad situation indeed.
I hope that wil get fixed in the future if not hire a new passionate composer.
A new composer does not have to mean angry fans if the new composer is passionate/good enough to learn a little about the series and it's roots i am sure he or she can create master pieces.
Other games have succesfully changed or used other skilled composers in the past, the most recent example would be BotW with the Animal Crossing composer. The soundtrack in that game was still stellar imo.
InternHertz
Member
I think I'll buy the game on 3DS in its Japanese version, then the game on PS4 once it releases in the West.
Can't wait for July 29th.
Can't wait for July 29th.
Give me one piece of iconic sound effect in Persona. DQ has a ton. DQ uses old sound because it can. It has a huge legacy that most franchise can only dream of.
I do prefer the music orchestrated though.
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Red Liquorice
Member
Gah! I don't know which version to get. I'm so comfortable playing JRPGs only on portables now, it feels hard to go back to the big screen, but the PS4 version is such eye candy. Choices, choices.
I think both versions look nice. I'm playing the PS4 version first though. It looks damn good to me. Especially the fight with the fire dragon.
Sound effects don't bother me at all and is not something I even noticed until it got brought up here. They probably just do it for nostalgic reasons considering how hardcore the Japan fanbase seems.
Seeing the PS4 footage and realizing we're getting a main entry, HD ,console Dragon Quest is giving me goosebumps. Considering how mind-blowing DQVIII was on PS2, I'm expecting big things for this one. If all goes well, I think this'll be the best jRPG on PS4. Can't believe in this day and age we're still getting traditional jRPGs like this with overworld maps and turn-based battles. I'm stoked.
Sound effects don't bother me at all and is not something I even noticed until it got brought up here. They probably just do it for nostalgic reasons considering how hardcore the Japan fanbase seems.
Seeing the PS4 footage and realizing we're getting a main entry, HD ,console Dragon Quest is giving me goosebumps. Considering how mind-blowing DQVIII was on PS2, I'm expecting big things for this one. If all goes well, I think this'll be the best jRPG on PS4. Can't believe in this day and age we're still getting traditional jRPGs like this with overworld maps and turn-based battles. I'm stoked.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Dang. It's really going to be hard to chose between Dragon Quest XI on the PS4, hopefully taking advantage of the Pro for 4K and HDR, and a potential portable experience on the Switch.
Admiral Woofington
Member
That's it.
Enough is enough. I am banding together government representatives to stop this shit. People coming into a town and destroying property plus entering homes to steal shit has to stop
Enough is enough. I am banding together government representatives to stop this shit. People coming into a town and destroying property plus entering homes to steal shit has to stop
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
DQVII on the 3DS and DQ Builders reminded me of how much I love the DQ aesthetic, since the last one I had played was VIII on the PS2. Can't wait for this now.
Earthbound64
Banned
Want this so bad.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
SHIN DRAGON QUEST
SCENARIO WRITER
Yuji Horii
CHARACTER DESIGN
Toyotaro
MUSIC BY
Hayato Matsuo