Corpsepyre
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This will definitely have no affect on X-Men DOFP's box office earnings. The timing here is just odd as fuck.
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Bryan Singer (X-Men, Usual Suspects) accused of sexually abusing underage boy
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Well, I agree with those saying innocent until proven guilty (specifically about the rape charge). That said, the industry has always had a dark reputation of producers/directors abusing their position of power over actors and those trying to break into the industry. So while it's true, a lot of these young men are 17-18 +, and seem to know what they are getting into, it still seems like Singer is well..scummy.
But then again, it's not like we can say for sure that he's promised roles, or gotten people to have sex for these specific purposes. But with all the stories swirling around, well..shit. *shrugs*.
EDIT: To clarify. I think it's scummy when people use their position of power, to persuade someone to have sex for career gains. While, it's still the persons choice to have sex for this reason, there CAN be instances where someone feels pressured to have sex, because they know if the refuse, their career will be ruined, or they will be blacklisted. Again, we don't know if Singer ever did this. Hollywood does have a history of people doing this. So that's all I'm saying. If Singer used his role with this regard, I think that's scummy.
But then again, it's not like we can say for sure that he's promised roles, or gotten people to have sex for these specific purposes. But with all the stories swirling around, well..shit. *shrugs*.
EDIT: To clarify. I think it's scummy when people use their position of power, to persuade someone to have sex for career gains. While, it's still the persons choice to have sex for this reason, there CAN be instances where someone feels pressured to have sex, because they know if the refuse, their career will be ruined, or they will be blacklisted. Again, we don't know if Singer ever did this. Hollywood does have a history of people doing this. So that's all I'm saying. If Singer used his role with this regard, I think that's scummy.
It's not shocking at all. What's shocking is that they get away with or even in some cases get a standing ovation.
ComputerMKII
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Do you mean 'no, his reputation is ruined' or 'no, he ruined a poor kid's life'?
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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I hate this story, but this part made me smile. "nah thanks, I got mine."
I think it's "please no, we don't want this person we like to have done something awful."
Bryan Singer Lawyer gives requisite statement that will lead people to think he totally did it.
If I were accused of something like that, my denial would be more passionate than that.
spindashing
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Why not both?
I'm reminded of reading about how they had to digitally shrink Routh's bulge in the outfit. No wonder he got the role...
ReplacementPelican
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The title is a bit inflammatory, couldn't it say '17 year old'? Surely we're a bit better than tabloid-esque titles here?
anarckitty
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Brad Renfro. What a sad ending to a great actor. He was my first mega crush as a child. My mom bought a Valentine's candy gram for me at school one year and had it signed "Brad", like it was from him. I was in 11 or 12 at the time and thought it was the coolest thing.
I just read that he wasn't included in the Academy Awards tribute to actors they had lost that year. He gets shitted on even after death. =/
PhoenixDark
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A 20 something guy isn't "barely legal" in this context. And yes, you can find plenty of 20 something women who specifically date older men.
The issue here is the idea of barely legal guys (18) and underage boys. If men want to date 18 year old men that's fine, but I would imagine that most in the gay community would agree that going below that line is wrong, regardless of whether the underage kid wants a "daddy."
Count Dookkake
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Preys on Future Cast
family_guy
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"But he did Thriller...Thriller."
PaleFolklore
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This is pretty horrible news if true. Such a scumbag thing to do. His X-Man movies are awful so it's not like it's a Polanski situation at least.
He'll probably do it after the Marvel/Ironman contract ends, surely? He's getting up there in years. He's about 50-55 now?
What the fuck at the .gif :lol
That's insane. Maybe the "Dan Schneider got Amanda Bynes pregnant" rumor isn't too outlandish.
Freedom = $1.05
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Allegations like this against singer have been around for ages. I remember hearing about infamous hot tub parties around the time he was casting for Superman in Superman Returns.
Ludicrous Speed
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joke post, right?
So everyone here assumes he is guilty? It's pretty damning that Hollywood's image is so messed up that everytime there's allegations of this kind, people immediately assume it is true without any questions.
Also, the early post about him hitting on younger dudes in west hollywood. That makes him a creep for some (older dude hitting on young men and vice versa is a pretty commoin thing), but that doesn't automatically makes him a rapist.
If he was too passionate people would also use that as a proof that he is guilty.
Also, the early post about him hitting on younger dudes in west hollywood. That makes him a creep for some (older dude hitting on young men and vice versa is a pretty commoin thing), but that doesn't automatically makes him a rapist.
If he was too passionate people would also use that as a proof that he is guilty.
Doc Holliday
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The guy could be guilty who knows, but the fact so many people still believe everything on the web is hilarious.
You figure after the whole boston bomber fiasco some of you would chill and wait for the facts to come in before jumping to conclusions.
You figure after the whole boston bomber fiasco some of you would chill and wait for the facts to come in before jumping to conclusions.
PaleFolklore
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Not at all. His X-Man movies are absolutely awful. Admittedly my exposure to the comic books is about zero though so maybe it's faithful to the comics and they're actually just awful. Regardless, if he did what he's accused of he is a total scumbag.
Ludicrous Speed
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But you're saying that this isn't comparable to Polanski because the latter made good films? What does their body of work have to do with the accusations?
Memento Mori
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Someone implying he was RDJ posted (still does on occasion) in the comments section on the CDAN blog . Actual RDJ denied it was him.
I wonder how rife it actually is. Is it some sick pact that keeps the lid on it. Can we look at film stars and not think they sleep their way to the top. For the few that get famous, there must be a conveyor belt of fresh meat ready to be exploited.
Wasn't Drew Barrymore involved in dodgy encounters when she was growing up.
Wasn't Drew Barrymore involved in dodgy encounters when she was growing up.
Okay, so, personally, this doesn't surprise me at all, and I think anyone who rapes a kid should be tortured to death.
But.
I knew some people who were accused of raping several kids in their family. Not only that, but the allegations included forced intercourse with animals, and making the kids murder a hitchhiker.
None of these allegations were true. In fact, most of them came from "repressed memories." The case was thrown out with extreme prejudice, after A) no evidence was found, B) the details didn't match up with reality, and C) the DA's office was more or less proven to be helping these people make up stuff.
These allegations completely ruined the guys' lives. They lost jobs, years of their lives, the trust of friends and loved ones, their reputations (were completely crucified in the media) and a ton of other stuff. None of it was true--it was apparently just some person who estranged herself from the family trying to ruin them, and taking advantage of a mentally ill sibling to make it happen. She was a disgusting, horrible human being for her actions.
So.
Rushing to judgement = bad.
On the flip side, a super nice dude that my familiy knew ended up being a serial killer with victims in the double digits. So, I mean, the nicest guy in the world can be a monster.
In what universe is "he forced my head underwater to make me give him oral sex" considered creepy sexual behavior?
But.
I knew some people who were accused of raping several kids in their family. Not only that, but the allegations included forced intercourse with animals, and making the kids murder a hitchhiker.
None of these allegations were true. In fact, most of them came from "repressed memories." The case was thrown out with extreme prejudice, after A) no evidence was found, B) the details didn't match up with reality, and C) the DA's office was more or less proven to be helping these people make up stuff.
These allegations completely ruined the guys' lives. They lost jobs, years of their lives, the trust of friends and loved ones, their reputations (were completely crucified in the media) and a ton of other stuff. None of it was true--it was apparently just some person who estranged herself from the family trying to ruin them, and taking advantage of a mentally ill sibling to make it happen. She was a disgusting, horrible human being for her actions.
So.
Rushing to judgement = bad.
On the flip side, a super nice dude that my familiy knew ended up being a serial killer with victims in the double digits. So, I mean, the nicest guy in the world can be a monster.
In what universe is "he forced my head underwater to make me give him oral sex" considered creepy sexual behavior?
I don't think there's any real evidence here (yet), just years of rumors. But, where there's smoke there's fire, so...
Yeah, I edited my sentence to be more accurate.
A 17-year-old is still an underage boy.
This thread has been shocking and left me dissapointed about Singer, even if they are of age the whole wild parties thing was something I didn't imagine, I guess I'm naive.
The other side doesn't look too good either, specially when this has been a secret apparently everyone knew about, coming with this lawsuit, after so much time, right before an important film debut is pretty suspicious.
Hollywood is horrible.
The other side doesn't look too good either, specially when this has been a secret apparently everyone knew about, coming with this lawsuit, after so much time, right before an important film debut is pretty suspicious.
Hollywood is horrible.
OriginalThinking
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No. That's one of the worst clichés going. He might be guilty, he might be innocent. We don't know yet. Right now everything is hearsay and rumour.
That kind of sounds like the d'Outreau Trial in France. Those kind of accusations can ruin people lives because they're almost always taken as pure truth even before any investigation is done. Guilty until proven innocent is truly an awful mindset.
Dear god no, that's one of the worst way to go about rumours. Especially something as serious as those accusations...
Father_Brain
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Remember: Accusing a powerful person of sexual assault always ends well for the accuser! He must just be in it for the money.
Not to presume Singer's guilt here, but his career will be fine, whereas this guy's name will be dragged through the mud regardless.
Not to presume Singer's guilt here, but his career will be fine, whereas this guy's name will be dragged through the mud regardless.
I'd agree in normal circumstances, but Hollywood isn't exactly normal and there's been no shortage of stories -- in just this thread alone -- about similar instances.
Depending on where you live. 17 is the age of consent in a lot of states.
metalslimer
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The only universal truth that comes from these things.
Servbot #42
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There were rumors of this ages ago, the tyler durden blog made fun of it like 10 years ago. Anyway so singer likes them young, depending of the state that maybe be illegal or not. Of course if he actually raped someone fuck him.
melonrabbit
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Curious how Sony will respond to the news, if at all. Will they distance themselves from Singer and X
OFP by pulling the clip/advertisement they agreed to insert in Amazing Spider-Man 2?
OFP by pulling the clip/advertisement they agreed to insert in Amazing Spider-Man 2?
GungHo
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That's really what it is... whether you're a director, someone's boss, a politician, or a priest, you're exploiting a power imbalance in order to get your jollies, whether it's simply a power trip or an orgasm. It shouldn't be tolerated. It doesn't matter that it's happened all over Hollywood or even since the beginning of civilization.
But there is a federal age of consent (18) which matters if he flew across state lines to Hawaii
I mean, if we are going to let arbitrary age of consent laws dictate morality
Liquidsnake
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As have I , the first of which was close to 10 years ago. And Brandon Routh's name was brought up in regards to how he got his role in Returns.
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