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[Baliis]

I'm talking bout when my team is miles behind and struggling to even hold one point, just like in the picture I posted. Teammates were spawning and simply running to B and dying over and over again, it's mind blowing how shit people are at this.

To be fair at least, most of the B points are a bitch to capture like I said. If you're outgunned heavily, you're simply never going to do it. Can't try to push to A/C either since you'll just flip the spawns and immediately lose the other. Noobs flipping the spawns is probably a bigger pain to me in a close match anyways since I can at least understand why the match turns into a shitfest when the game is one sided.

 

[Shito]

Sunbreakers aren't invincible, but it's pretty crazy that if you get one to a sliver, but he gets the kill, his overshield is right back. I'm fine with the duration of the super, and the amount of hammers they get, but the overshield refresh on kills is what gets me.

It's going to be annoying in trials going up against teams of sunbreakers and needing to really play defensively and hold on to your supers to combat that shit.


Also, nightstalker super isn't reliably fast enough to shut them down before they kill you/those around you. Golden gun it is I guess. Got to rethink my trials build, which sucks because I was really looking forward to shade stepping around.

What sucks even more is that shadestep is an awesome counter to the sunbreaker's super: managed to dodge 3 or 4 hammers yesterday on my sole IB match by using it.

 

[Tovarisc]

Now you know how Titans felt in Year 1 dealing with blink shotgun Voidwalkers/Bladedancers and Golden Guns popping their bubbles.

I'm sure you'll get your revenge in Year 3

I main warlock, always preferred glide over blink and I dealt with blink shotguns just fine. Not having blink doesn't mean you can't counterplay that stuff. Bubble popping with GG's and Nova's did balance bubble tho, you couldn't e.g. cap point camp so easily with it.

Not sure how these two things are equal to the fact that sunbreaker is borderline godmode that doesn't give flying fuck about getting shots to head, throws nuclear warheads and gets all HP back from single kill.

Edit:

I'd rather face a sunbreaker than a stormcalling warlock. Almost impossible to avoid the stupid lightning and they don't even have to aim really. At least I can LOS a titan.

I play as stormcaller now. You need have good timing on its use to get kills with it. Range isn't that great and you take full damage from enemy fire. Get close and pull trigger? Yeah, it devastates.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

Thanks to both of you guys for coming along. Definitely one of my smoothest yet. Best parts were Hudson refusing to let me shoot the bosses.

I really have to figure out how to not die if I have the aura thing at the warpriest. Both time I had it I was dead within 3 seconds.

Twas a great run though. You were so close to flawless.

 

[Deku Tree]

My vault is full. My toons inventories are full. I'm going to need to do another purge.

 

[Hawkian]

HaWksaw? I thought it was HaCksaw. Weird. Probably everyone's autocorrect fixing it. I can only assume that Bungie's seaHawks love is to blame.

No, they just love me

 

[Dr_Boris_Goltz]

What's the general opinion on The 4th Horseman?

Sorry posting for a new page.

 

[Kyne]

It's these new maps man.

Almost all of them have a 360 field of vision where you can get shot at B.

With the old maps there were strategic choke points. This allowed a not-so-good-at-killing-team to get the upper hand by playing smart.

Now you -need- to be able to out-gun the enemy or else you'll immediately lose B, and then fall behind on points.

I'm glad that I have friends that I play IB with. I can't imagine running solo. We always have like 3~ spots on the train so I'll def post up later for anyone who is needing a team.

 

[Lee]

What sucks even more is that shadestep is an awesome counter to the sunbreaker's super: managed to dodge 3 or 4 hammers yesterday on my sole IB match by using it.

I know! I love that shit. I really enjoy playing nightstalker all around (aside from the non-lethal grenades). I had a perfect tether on black shield on the outside heavy ammo, managed five kills on my own. It was so fun.

But, I want to win in trials, and I don't know if nightstalker is the best way to accomplish that.

We'll see this weekend.

 

[EL CUCO]

My vault is full. My toons inventories are full. I'm going to need to do another purge.

Once we start grinding for 330, you can shard all the sub 310 stuff. #makingtoughdecisions

 

[flkraven]

Sorry posting for a new page.

Personally, it's my favorite shotgun for PvE. It rips through enemies, even if their shield isn't arc. I use it on shield bros with my titan. Fly in and punch a bro, then unload all 5 shots.

 

[Collateral22]

Awesome. 4 more spots.

EDIT: just had a look on destinylfg. Fucking hell it's grim over there. Talk about making destiny a job...

I'd stay well clear of it. From my experience most people on it are horrible and impatient.

 

[void666]

Sorry posting for a new page.

It's amazing for pve. It used to be better pre nerf obviously.
Just get close and unleash all 5 shells for massive dps.

For pvp though it's not worth it.

 

[Baliis]

It's these new maps man.

Almost all of them have a 360 field of vision where you can get shot at B.

With the old maps there were strategic choke points. This allowed a not-so-good-at-killing-team to get the upper hand by playing smart.

Now you -need- to be able to out-gun the enemy or else you'll immediately lose B, and then fall behind on points.

I'm glad that I have friends that I play IB with. I can't imagine running solo. We always have like 3~ spots on the train so I'll def post up later for anyone who is needing a team.

All of the old maps have a pretty open B as well, just look at stuff like Cauldrin/Anomaly, burning shrine was pretty open from the outside, shores of time was horribly lopsided.

 

[NastyBook]

Now you know how Titans felt in Year 1 dealing with blink shotgun Voidwalkers/Bladedancers and Golden Guns popping their bubbles.

This. I remember getting Blade Danced out of my Fist of Havoc, even though I popped it first. Payback's a motherfucker.

 

[Deku Tree]

Once we start grinding for 330, you can shard all the sub 310 stuff. #makingtoughdecisions

I'm sharding based upon perks first, power second. I think in gonna have to shard some year 1 raid weapons too.

 

[Sai-kun]

Awesome. 4 more spots.

EDIT: just had a look on destinylfg. Fucking hell it's grim over there. Talk about making destiny a job...

I'll join if you think we can get it started in the next hour or so

My PSN name is techn1colors!

 

[figadapaura]

This Imprecation quest will be the death of me.

 

[haunted_taco]

So which gun is everybody crying about in IB this go around? or is it just Hammer Bros?

 

[three_muffins]

Any Oryx raids forming and looking for a warlock? Done kingsfall up to oryx (never won that last fight though).

psn: three_muffins

 

[sajj316]

So which gun is everybody crying about in IB this go around? or is it just Hammer Bros?

Hammer time!!!!

 

[darkistheway]

I think I might have found the gun that works for me in Crucible: Boolean Gemini.

Stable, hits hard, and has decent rate of fire.

It's the closest I've felt to the MIDA so far in year two.

 

[Feorax]

Any Oryx raids forming and looking for a warlock? Done kingsfall up to oryx (never won that last fight though).

Got three spaces left if you want in?

 

[eighty(one)]

Luke or Bungie:

What ever happened to the promise of something special for those that had all of the prior content and still purchased TTK collectors edition?

My idea: give us a choice to pick our own 310 exotic.

I want a Telesto, please

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

This Imprecation quest will be the death of me.

If I can do it, you can surely do it.

 

[Homeboyd]

Luke or Bungie:

What ever happened to the promise of something special for those that had all of the prior content and still purchased TTK collectors edition?

My idea: give us a choice to pick our own 310 exotic.

I want a Telesto, please

You got 2000 free silver.

 

[ZServ]

Sooo.. I was told that if I played during year 1, I should have gotten some sort of shader or something?

Cuz if so, I never got that.

 

[Kyne]

All of the old maps have a pretty open B as well, just look at stuff like Cauldrin/Anomaly, burning shrine was pretty open from the outside, shores of time was horribly lopsided.

Cauldron = You have doorways you know they need to come through
Anomaly = You had 3 directions but they were all in plain sight, the last one down the ramp you could keep track of via radar
Burning Shrine = you had that giant pillar in the center and the two huge walls in the direction of outside to narrow the field of vision in front of you. You also had the rotating hazards on the left/right giving you time to recoup.
Shores of time = 3 points, 1 of them was a risk because it forced you to jump out onto a platform. Realistically you only ever had to check in the direction of the A flag and the outside area near Heavy.

Yes, the old maps you usually could get attacked from any side.. but that's the thing, you had SIDES to choose from. North East South West. Now you have 360' field that you can't keep up with. By the time you realize the direction you're being shot from you're dead.

 

[three_muffins]

Got three spaces left if you want in?

Sure. When do you guys start?

psn: three_muffins

 

[Deku Tree]

Luke or Bungie:

What ever happened to the promise of something special for those that had all of the prior content and still purchased TTK collectors edition?

My idea: give us a choice to pick our own 310 exotic.

I want a Telesto, please

You got a pack of emotes from the postmaster yesterday if you bought the digital CE before e3, including three legendary five dollar emotes one of which is not for sale yet.

If you bought it afterwards then you had been warned.

 

[darkistheway]

I'm sharding based upon perks first, power second. I think in gonna have to shard some year 1 raid weapons too.

We (my raid buddies and I) decided last night that raid weapons were eligible for sharding.

They will never allowing ascending again, and if they do ever decide that VoC or Fatebringer has a place in the endgame again, we will probably have to get them all over again.

Unless you use them for regular Crucible, only nostalgia stands in your way.

 

[Tovarisc]

This. I remember getting Blade Danced out of my Fist of Havoc, even though I popped it first. Payback's a motherfucker.

As someone who mains warlock it's far from funny that Y1 was about getting fucked over by Bladedancers [that are somewhat counterable without super] and now Y2 looks like year where warlocks get fucked over by Sunbreakers [next to uncounterable atm].

Am I only one who wants PvP to feel balanced and fun where you don't feel like you have to use class X and weapon Y to have any fun?

 

[rNilla]

Sooo.. I was told that if I played during year 1, I should have gotten some sort of shader or something?

Cuz if so, I never got that.

Did you reach level 30 with any character or own the first two expansions?

 

[Feorax]

Sure. When do you guys start?

psn: three_muffins

We can start as soon as we have 6.

2 more spots

 

[Rollo Tomasi]

Warpriest hates me. Around 8 clears of WP and still zero heavy weapon drops.

Also for some reason I can't get any blue heavy weapons drops over 296. The game refuses to give me any.

 

[EJRobinson90]

Warpriest hates me. Around 8 clears of WP and still zero heavy weapon drops.

Also for some reason I can't get any blue heavy weapons drops over 296. The game refuses to give me any.

High five! Never had anything else from the Warpriest than shards.

 

[Sai-kun]

We can start as soon as we have 6.

2 more spots

me pls i have a mic, too!

techn1colors

 

[darkistheway]

As someone who mains warlock it's far from funny that Y1 was about getting fucked over by Bladedancers [that are somewhat counterable without super] and now Y2 looks like year where warlocks get fucked over by Sunbreakers [next to uncounterable atm].

Am I only one who wants PvP to feel balanced and fun where you don't feel like you have to use class X and weapon Y to have any fun?

I hit a Sunbreaker last night with two shotguns blasts. He hit me with his hammer and ran away with his health regenerating. It was not fun.

I will be leveling up my Titan next week.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Luke or Bungie:

What ever happened to the promise of something special for those that had all of the prior content and still purchased TTK collectors edition?

My idea: give us a choice to pick our own 310 exotic.

I want a Telesto, please

we got 8 emotse for free.

 

[ZServ]

Did you reach level 30 with any character or own the first two expansions?

Didn't own the expansions. Completed VoG, so probably around 29-30 on 3 characters. However, a buddy of mine who was only 28 on his character (we raided together) and didn't own the expansions got an all black shader, said that was the source.

Regardless, I completed end-game content during year 1, beat VoG first week it was out. Guess I'm not getting it.

Also, why are not all emblems in the emblem kiosk? There's a green one Eva sold during year 1, a circle inside a hexagon, white on black, can't remember the name, but it's not in the kiosk.

 

[Darknyss09]

This Imprecation quest will be the death of me.

Match ended with me at 6/7 kills four fucking times so far. This is rage inducing.

Edit; The precision part makes it stupid as hell.

 

[commish]

Gaming-side Destiny threads are so painful. People who aren't even playing the game come in just to say dumb shit.

 

[Feorax]

me pls i have a mic, too!

techn1colors

You're already on the list to go mate, no worries .

Still 2 spots open if anyone wants in.

 

[PuMa]

Eirene one-shot my Sunbreaker last night.

There is a way...

 

[stb]

3. Players were able to min/max MoL leveling, and dismantling by collecting a stock pile of MoL, blue weapons and armor, and methodically and tediously swapping in and out gear to level them with MoL to return back some MoL and weapon parts. This is my guess for the nerf. That one god damn Reddit post where a player did this. Half of the responses were, "that seems like a waste of time...but more power to you." Who did this harm? If you want to spend hours of your time in Destiny to farm MoL to increase vendor rank, then have at it. That was a legitimate grind. It was by no means some easy exploit like the loot cave or a chest farm glitch. It is no different than players who spent hours on end running the Valuable Target patrols in Y1 to farm rep.

This could relate to what I was saying about the live team being out of touch with the endgame. They're clearly not actually engaged with endgame/1%er stuff, so maybe they read the /r/DestinyTheGame as Cliff's Notes?

Since they're missing actual perspective, they can't see why stuff like this really a problem for 99% of players. Same with people having hundreds of strange coins. If even 10% of players have ever hit 3 digits for stange coins, I'll eat my hat.

 

[igordennis]

If I can do it, you can surely do it.

But how?? Im waking the hive and getting 7 headshots in a row seems impossible with these moving thralls.

And do i have to get 7 precision sprees on crucicble with this awful handcannon? If so, rip.

 

[stb]

Hammer bros try to come inside, but I can tank a hammer with my Armor of Light.

I think 2 hammers drop a bubble. Then they have 4-5 left to hammer you and anyone in the bubble.

 

[Darknyss09]

But how?? Im waking the hive and getting 7 headshots in a row seems impossible with these moving thralls.

And do i have to get 7 precision sprees on crucicble with this awful handcannon? If so, rip.

You need 7 headshot kills with the shitty hand cannon in a single game. Oh and good luck getting in a match that's not half way over.

 

[rNilla]

Didn't own the expansions. Completed VoG, so probably around 29-30 on 3 characters. However, a buddy of mine who was only 28 on his character (we raided together) and didn't own the expansions got an all black shader, said that was the source.

Regardless, I completed end-game content during year 1, beat VoG first week it was out. Guess I'm not getting it.

Also, why are not all emblems in the emblem kiosk? There's a green one Eva sold during year 1, a circle inside a hexagon, white on black, can't remember the name, but it's not in the kiosk.

Well if you've fulfilled the criteria (which includes owning TTK) there should be a Veteran's Tour quest from Zavala that will give you the VIP rewards (black shader, sparrow, etc.). Though I believe that shader should also just show up in your Shader Collection if you're eligible.

 

[illiniguy05]

Yes! One of my teammates hit me and I was like, "Well that's rude..." then I saw your name pop up!

That HC quest...I got it that round. WOOF. I am no bueno with them + that's a VERY tough gun to use. It requires a skilled hand.

Ha! I barely missed it that round, and I said screw it. I'll need a kind soul to jump into rumble with me so I can get some easy kills.