Fox Mulder
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makes me not want to even support konami going forward. Just a gross product and shitty support.
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Did Konami ever fix the Silent Hill HD collection?
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makes me not want to even support konami going forward. Just a gross product and shitty support.
SkylineRKR
Member
Even though I am a fan of the first 3 games I didn't buy this as I didn't want to experience inferior versions of a classic. I did buy ZoE HD, which was also a piece of shit, but not nearly as bad as this one. And ZoE2 HD got fixed completely, its brilliant now.
Silent Hill HD's treatment is a crime against the ones who created these games, and against the fans.
Especially after the masterful MGS collection one can see how Konami feels about the franchise today. They didn't give a fuck and on top of it they let studios like Double Helix and Vatra work on the IP. There is a reason why PT is so beloved. Its also because this is Silent Hill with a Triple A studio and a much respected movie director like Guillermo Del Toro behind it.
Silent Hill HD's treatment is a crime against the ones who created these games, and against the fans.
Especially after the masterful MGS collection one can see how Konami feels about the franchise today. They didn't give a fuck and on top of it they let studios like Double Helix and Vatra work on the IP. There is a reason why PT is so beloved. Its also because this is Silent Hill with a Triple A studio and a much respected movie director like Guillermo Del Toro behind it.
Harry raised you better than that.
But seriously:
turned into "I will kill you, you bitch". Great job Tom Hewlett. Great job you did there.
They shouldn't have told him that. He could have gotten a heart attack from it. :/
Nemesis_
Member
Harry raised you better than that.
But seriously:
turned into "I will kill you, you bitch". Great job Tom Hewlett. Great job you did there.
That's the only line I don't mind. I believe Heather would be more unhinged and angry at that point
But it takes away from the ending. Where she actually used a swear word in the original.
They shouldn't have changed anything at all. The games are a work of art. Reminds me of this:
How many people are complaining about the modifications that George Lucas did to Star Wars? And at least in that case it is the original creator. Tom Hewlett, Troy Baker, McGlynn and the other incompetent people weren't involved in the creation of the originals at all.
btw. is the internal PS2 software emulator for PS3 working with Silent Hill 2+3? They could have at least released the originals as digital download.
And the fucking most pivotable video tape scene in Silent Hill 2 is just god awful, like if the developers wanted to make a hilarious joke on its consumers:
Well they surely cropped the hell out of the original video. And they even fucked up the aspect ratio.
I guess this was not the right week to stop drinking.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Silent Hill 2+3 HD treatment still kills me to this day. Doesn't help that I own the games on PS2 and PC at all.
Just means you don't even need to buy the HD collections.
Definitive ways to experience Silent Hill is, either, get the PC versions running or emulate the PS2 originals.
Mr. Enigma
Member
The 1Up article where Tomm Hulett revealed HD Collection was running off beta code always kills me.
Hulett: "It's not like we can just rip a retail disc down and make it from that."
In the VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH is a quote from someone at Bluepoint Games:
"We always reverse-engineer from the retail disc to make sure everything is accurate."
Hulett: "It's not like we can just rip a retail disc down and make it from that."
In the VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH is a quote from someone at Bluepoint Games:
"We always reverse-engineer from the retail disc to make sure everything is accurate."
dark_chris
Member
I think what Konami did to these is even worse than what George Lucas did to the original Star Wars. Such a terrible crime.
SketchTheArtist
Member
The 1Up article where Tomm Hulett revealed HD Collection was running off beta code always kills me.
Hulett: "It's not like we can just rip a retail disc down and make it from that."
In the VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH is a quote from someone at Bluepoint Games:
"We always reverse-engineer from the retail disc to make sure everything is accurate."
Sure his heart was at the right place but he was clueless as to what he was doing. He didn't seem to grasp what made Silent Hill work. Also, redoing the voicework for both games was an awful idea that surely cost a lot of money and resources that could've gone into hiring competent people to remaster it correctly.
legacyzero
Banned
The 1Up article where Tomm Hulett revealed HD Collection was running off beta code always kills me.
Hulett: "It's not like we can just rip a retail disc down and make it from that."
In the VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH is a quote from someone at Bluepoint Games:
"We always reverse-engineer from the retail disc to make sure everything is accurate."
Yep. Can't stand this guy.
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Thank god he's not in charge of Silent Hill anymore. So much damage done to the franchise.
PetriP-TNT
Member
I've been meaning to replay them on PC. I did play the PC SH2 up until the apartments couple of years ago but that PC was running Windows Vista which didn't play nice with SH2 at all for some reason.
It just kills me mostly because they are some of my favorite games ever and some people never get to experience the greatness of them.
Mr. Enigma
Member
According to Guy Cihi, Silent Hill 3's original VO work is completely gone. They went into the archives and it was just totally gone. Nowhere in sight.
It's just baffling how much Konami really didn't seem to care about Silent Hill. They obviously look at Kojima as the star child, and everything else gets "meh, do it" treatment. That's the only way anyone can explain selling obviously-flawed beta "HD" versions of games and letting a development team (Hijinx Studios) handle the game when their only body of work previously included cell phone games, stripped-down handheld ports, and one or two digital console games.
I don't understand why that is an issue, go into the disc and rip the files.
Nappuccino
Member
The audio would have been compressed to fit on the disc. I mean, it's better than nothing, but I can understand the intent to recreate files uncompressed.
Totally didn't happen at all though.
BouncyFrag
Member
I'm reminded of the disappointment of discovering there was a SH HD edition and then finding out it was complete crap when I looked up reviews of it as I had never played the series. I clicked this thread hoping against hope it had been fixed.
OverBlood 3
Banned
spoiler here but for those that have played three.
in the 'hd' pile of trash, his face/head is in full view instead of cropped out in the scene.
Insanely bad.
In the scene where she finds harry dead in the chair
Insanely bad.
Since Silent Hill HD Remake, they've ported plenty of games over directly from their PS2 release on PS3 where you can buy on PSN.
Would it be possible for them to do the same with the Silent Hill games or is there major licensing issues involved that will not allows them to do this?
Would it be possible for them to do the same with the Silent Hill games or is there major licensing issues involved that will not allows them to do this?
Cheaper way to make it widescreen now? I don't know.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Just remember, no one are bigger fans of Silent Hill than Tomm. Everything he touched might have turned out horrible, and he might have been truly classless to other lesser fans, but just remember he's bigger than you. #truthfacts #NotTheOneWeNeedButTheOneWeDeserve #OnlyHateCauseItIsNotMadeInJapan
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I don't really have a problem with Tomm, I blame the bigwigs at Konami not giving the series the attention or budget it deserved.
legacyzero
Banned
I dont think budget was the problem. It was the focus. Giving it to a trustworthy dev, or NOT giving it, was the problem IMO.
Broder Salsa
Banned
It's hard to only blame him, but when he's the one out being vocal with such horse shit as to why people dislike homecoming and such: "they aren't made by Japanese developers" and such trash, it's hard to not dislike him. Of course it wasn't his decision to disband Team Silent or many of other horrible decisions that was taken along the road, but he was always the one out there defending them and being clueless, often a real dick to the fans on forums and such.
Gameboy415
Member
It sounds like playing the original version on PS2/PC is the best way to go, but I played through the entirety of SH3 HD on PS3 over the course of a weekend about a month ago and didn't experience any issues (no glitches, freezing, etc.).
*shrug*
*shrug*
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Which again depends on the budget they had to work with. Giving it to Hijinx was probably cheaper than hiring Bluepoint.
Seems like they had a pretty sizable budget. Remake the textures, rerecord the audio, etc.
Seems the port would have been better off if they had a smaller budget and more oversight from Konami. Should have just ported the PC versions and stopped there.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Didn't IGN give this a 9.0? Lol
Scofield94941
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQxW6h920UY
Ive been debating on what to get, HD collection or PS2 versions ( I have a BC PS3)
To me this video sells me on the HD collection. I can deal with the less reds in Silent Hill 3 and less intense fog. I
Ive been debating on what to get, HD collection or PS2 versions ( I have a BC PS3)
To me this video sells me on the HD collection. I can deal with the less reds in Silent Hill 3 and less intense fog. I
Yes.
Presentation got 10/10
Audio 10/10 as well
It seems they didn't play it at all.
Get the originals. Be happy.
(it's not "just" less fog or less reds, the games are a broken mess in the HD collection with all sorts of problems. There is also slowdown, freezes, sound glitches and all sorts of crap. SH3 doesn't have even the option to get the original voices. Dialog changes. Graphic effects that are missing. I could go on and on.)
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Ugh. Why did I click on this thread? Sucks to be reminded of this.
This is the most horrifying Silent Hill of all.
This is the most horrifying Silent Hill of all.
Yes.
Presentation got 10/10
Audio 10/10 as well
It seems they didn't play it at all.
It truly disgusts me that a site like IGN has so much influence on the industry.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Very small I would say. I wish they could just re-release them on steam or whatever though, don't even need to make them widescreen, people have figured out how to do that themselves... There is no work needed.
I just want the original games to be released on Steam. Just fix them up a bit with 16:9 and modern OS tweaks and call it a day.
At this point I will probably be able to run them at 4K resolutions with my 5 year old card.
The Steam forums would blow up in anger. The average gamer is just not capable of doing a bit of research.
metalslimer
Member
Maybe with Kojima taking such an active interest in the franchise we'll see a big push to remaster the series for the current gen. Really, I would just like to see a nice remaster of the first game. Shattered Memories is cool, but I just want a nicer looking original with some enhancements gameplay wise.
I have a PS2 copy of Silent Hill 2 that I haven't played yet.
How the hell does someone rate gameplay at 6.5 and give an aggregate score of 9?
How the hell does someone rate gameplay at 6.5 and give an aggregate score of 9?
I'd love a Silent Hill remake. But one crafted with love. And with the voice-acting still intact.
Napalm_Frank
Member
I don't think Konami will do another rerelease for Silent Hill after the HD collection but IF they did I think it would be something like the MGS legacy collection with 1-4 or something with hopefully re-remastered 2+3. I dunno if Kojima cares outside of his own game tho.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Guys SH 2 and 3 are not on PSN 
I don;t have a PS2 either, so the only way I can play these classics is through the HD collection on PS3......is it worth it? I heard there's been a patch that has fixed it.
I'll play SH and SH4 in the mean time.
I don;t have a PS2 either, so the only way I can play these classics is through the HD collection on PS3......is it worth it? I heard there's been a patch that has fixed it.
I'll play SH and SH4 in the mean time.
Napalm_Frank
Member
If you can't play it any other way, sure. SH 2 is fine after a patch on PS3 outside of horrible looking water on a boat scene. SH 3 seems to still be quite a mixed bag of glitches and bugs even after patch but I didn't play that one after patch so cant really comment.Guys SH 2 and 3 are not on PSN
I don;t have a PS2 either, so the only way I can play these classics is through the HD collection on PS3......is it worth it? I heard there's been a patch that has fixed it.
I'll play SH and SH4 in the mean time.
Guys SH 2 and 3 are not on PSN
I don;t have a PS2 either, so the only way I can play these classics is through the HD collection on PS3......is it worth it? I heard there's been a patch that has fixed it.
You do have a PC? Then get them for PC. Or buy the PS2 ones and buy/rent a PS2 for them. They are worth that. But don't get the HD collection.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Guys SH 2 and 3 are not on PSN
I don;t have a PS2 either, so the only way I can play these classics is through the HD collection on PS3......is it worth it? I heard there's been a patch that has fixed it.
I'll play SH and SH4 in the mean time.
Get 2 and 3 for PC, but if that's not feasible.. The HD collection is still bad even after the patch, but at least the games are still good in and of themselves, so..
Guys SH 2 and 3 are not on PSN
I don;t have a PS2 either, so the only way I can play these classics is through the HD collection on PS3......is it worth it? I heard there's been a patch that has fixed it.
I'll play SH and SH4 in the mean time.
Grab the PS2 versions and emulate.
OverBlood 3
Banned
Fixed.
I'd rather people watch the original games on youtube before recommending the HD collection. That's how atrocious they are.