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Digital Foundry: Face-Off - Watch_Dogs
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Sakura
Member
Maybe it's just the scene, but that doesn't really look that much better than last gen to me.
Im talking about the filtering, its shit, just like it was in Infamous and alot of other PS4 games.
Surely theres a reason why 16x anisotropic filtering isnt been used, as its so cheap to use in PC gaming.
Thats for Day time, like I said for some reason in day time all the quality of the textures go down, it all looks flat, filter helps it.
I taken shots off screen yesterday where the game looked generations ahead of what you posted there, it looked super HD textured no fiter none, it all looked clean as hell.
Dont know wtf engine Ubi used for this but it doesn't deliver the same quality look all the time, dynamically changing all the time its weird.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I wouldn't count CoDAW as cross gen, since they are developing it as a next gen/current gen title and then a different team is porting it to last gen.
Insano Jaco
Neo Member
it's bad in every platform
Oh right, I wasn't aware.
RPGCrazied
Member
Also, most "professional" game reviewers don't talk about technical issues, so the only way I could see what was the best version was from digital foundry.
No way am I dropping $60 on a game I know nothing on how it runs. What happened to day 1 demos?!
Canis lupus
Member
Indeed. I have a 1600 euro pc from 2013 and I can't get it to play at max settings, use temporal smaa, high vs ultra, new drivers etc doesn't matter I still get about ~30fps.
The only reason it looks better at night is because vision is impaired by the darkness, and all the blemishes aren't as apparent.
I done a little searching for PC vs PS4 screenshot comparison, and even maxed on PC (with 16xAF i assume) the texture filtering isnt really all that much better than the PS4's
PC
PS4
Chaplain
Member
I assumed at the end of last year that the reason Watch Dogs was delayed was due to the Xbox One version having problems running the game and Microsoft asking for a delay to get the game out at the same time. hmmm
The only reason it looks better at night is because vision is impaired by the darkness, and all the blemishes aren't as apparent.
I done a little searching for PC vs PS4 screenshot comparison, and even maxed on PC (with 16xAF i assume) the texture filtering isnt really all that much better than the PS4's
PC
PS4
PS4 version looks quite blurry in comparison.
Impeccable
Member
Played a few hours on Watch Dogs so far and it's really beautiful at time and quite ugly in others, I go from being amazed to thinking it could look better at other times.
My wife saw me play a little bit last night and commented on how the lighting during the day time looked pretty realistic, and I agree.
My wife saw me play a little bit last night and commented on how the lighting during the day time looked pretty realistic, and I agree.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
If you think the Xbone shots are missing self shadowing, you have no idea what self shadowing is...
The most noticeable difference in stills is the AO strength followed by i.q which is barely noticeable (both are littered with aliasing).
It doesn't look as sharp but there still isn't a huge gigantic difference.
That said, what is with the poor filtering on next gen games? My creaky old GTX560m with it's 60gbps GDDR5 has never had a problem with max filtering on high texture settings. Doesn't lose a single fps.
Exploratory
Banned
Yeah, its slightly better.
Yeah, it's nothing massive, but it's quite clear.
LukasTaves
Member
It's weird that the differences in resolution/AA does not seem consistent... In some edges it's very hard to spot the difference, in others it's pretty clear.
But overall, the scalers on these consoles seems very good indeed. Considering the resolution delta I expected more pronounced differences.
Angelus Errare
Banned
The only reason it looks better at night is because vision is impaired by the darkness, and all the blemishes aren't as apparent.
I done a little searching for PC vs PS4 screenshot comparison, and even maxed on PC (with 16xAF i assume) the texture filtering isnt really all that much better than the PS4's
PC
PS4
You have to force AF through the GPU settings in order to actually get it on the PC version. Without doing that it's the same filtering as the console versions.
ValeYard
Member
I'm playing on Xbox One, so glad to hear my version isn't totally gimped 
I've seen some tearing, but it hasn't been too frequent, pretty much as digital foundry concluded. Generally, I've found objects in the distance when driving to look very last gen, but explosions have nice particle effects, so you wins some you lose some.
If I had ps4 I'd have gone for that version for sure, though. Shame pc seems badly optimized otherwise I would've waited for my new build at the end of the year.
Considering these are still pretty new consoles, I think it must have been a pretty non-trivial task to get all versions running, so well done, I guess. I literally have no insight into development. But thanks for the game, although the mission "Caught in the Loop" is so bad, I'd pay money not to play it.
I've seen some tearing, but it hasn't been too frequent, pretty much as digital foundry concluded. Generally, I've found objects in the distance when driving to look very last gen, but explosions have nice particle effects, so you wins some you lose some.
If I had ps4 I'd have gone for that version for sure, though. Shame pc seems badly optimized otherwise I would've waited for my new build at the end of the year.
Considering these are still pretty new consoles, I think it must have been a pretty non-trivial task to get all versions running, so well done, I guess. I literally have no insight into development. But thanks for the game, although the mission "Caught in the Loop" is so bad, I'd pay money not to play it.
Afaik the PC version doesn't have a AF setting and it's locked at 4 or 8x (can't remember).
You still can change it through console commands (every time you start/load the game) .
PC ubi ports, you know.
The only reason it looks better at night is because vision is impaired by the darkness, and all the blemishes aren't as apparent.
I done a little searching for PC vs PS4 screenshot comparison, and even maxed on PC (with 16xAF i assume) the texture filtering isnt really all that much better than the PS4's
PC
PS4
nah see those pics you posted there dont really show what I seen on my TV, I need to show you what I mean, pics are on my Twitter
all taken off screen with the phone.
I caught all the different looks this game pumps out, at one point even looks very colorful vibrant like the new Strider, goes from super hd textured to flat looking low res filtered textures, crazy. I want to know why or how does this happen this engine seems to dynamically change its quality.
The only reason it looks better at night is because vision is impaired by the darkness, and all the blemishes aren't as apparent.
I done a little searching for PC vs PS4 screenshot comparison, and even maxed on PC (with 16xAF i assume) the texture filtering isnt really all that much better than the PS4's
PC
PS4
You can force 16x AF on Nvidia Control Panel.
LukasTaves
Member
The game is very hit and miss in the visual department. Sometimes it looks insanely good, some times it feels like it would be a bad looking last gen game.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
The only reason it looks better at night is because vision is impaired by the darkness, and all the blemishes aren't as apparent.
I done a little searching for PC vs PS4 screenshot comparison, and even maxed on PC (with 16xAF i assume) the texture filtering isnt really all that much better than the PS4's
PC
PS4
The lack of 1080p on PS4 is very obvious in this comparison. :/
Somebody at Ubisoft explain to me how at this moment, time and situation the game looks
This amazing?. Why it cant look this way all the time?, why didnt they choose to only be like this?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Joeki11a/media/grid?idx=2&tid=472171218494164992
Look at the other pics, see how it delivers a low res look at day time, to a very vibrant almost cartoony look at a Pier at night, to flat muted colors look. what engine is this? why does it make the game look different quality at certain times?.
This amazing?. Why it cant look this way all the time?, why didnt they choose to only be like this?
PS4-
https://mobile.twitter.com/Joeki11a/media/grid?idx=2&tid=472171218494164992
Look at the other pics, see how it delivers a low res look at day time, to a very vibrant almost cartoony look at a Pier at night, to flat muted colors look. what engine is this? why does it make the game look different quality at certain times?.
Franco_hunter
Neo Member
What wrong with the shadows in XO?
Looks like a tot of missing shadows again PS4.
I remember the devs of Dead Rising 3 talking about doing this for their game on XB1. It definitely rings a bell, I'm not sure if all devs are using it though.
wapplew
Member
This. Native resolution is important.
LittleJohnny
Banned
Damn, that looks pretty damn close. Under the DF microscope is the only way to be able to tell that there's a difference, but I bet if you played one version at a friends house, then went somewhere else and played the other, it wouldn't be significant at all, at least imo.
how do they expect ubi to make the game run the same as ps4 when the xbone has weaker hardware?
LittleJohnny
Banned
I believe that has more to do with texture filtering forced on for the PC version, not the fault of running at 900p.
Angelus Errare
Banned
DX12 + Better tools + 10% from dropping kinect = more powerful than PS4.
u forgot da clouds friend.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Do you actually believe that or is this sarcasm? There's no amount of tinkering that will make the XB1s RAM and GPU a match with the PS4's
Nothing in the article implies that. They said the game looks better optimized on PS4 than XB1.
quite blurry? hardly. Its just a little bit blurry but its almost not even noticeable.
Chill Penguin
Member
The differences seem pretty small across the board really. These are hardly Xbox-PS2 level discrepancies. People overanalyze these threads but in reality the differences aren't hugely noticeable.
Why does the scale of height suddenly change in that picture? it goes up in 3 inch increments,
then suddenly jumps from 5'9 to 6'2. its almost as though they thought there were only 10 inches to that particular foot.
The differences in those comparison pics look just as big as most 100 page X1/PS4 comparison threads we constantly get on here. The threads where some people tell us how huge the differences are.
The PC version simply looks better.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
I'm not so sure about that, just look at the "Underground Access" text; I should be able to read that clearly; it's like I'm wearing slightly out of focus glasses - it's clear upscaling. I'm not trying to bash the PS4; I have one and don't game on PC, but native resolution is important. Every game I have for this gen is native res.
16xAF on PC
Beautiful shot.
You would hope not considering the Xbox came out 20 months after the PS2.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Again, DX12 + better tools + 10% more power from dropping Kinect = more powerful than PS4. I mean PS4 is only like 40% more powerful if that, but once DX12 is used that drops to like 20% then the 10% from dropping kinect and then better tools = equal or more powerful. I'd imagine the better tools would make it more powerful TBH.
That's not even including the power of the cloud. I'm willing to bet Assassin's Creed Unity will run better on Xbox One than PS4 and PC.