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Disney Infinity Canceled; Disney Exits Console Publishing; Avalanche Shut [Statement]
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I've seen people post that it was probably doing okay but not good enough for what Disney wanted it to make.
Quadraphonic
Member
And THAT one was only good because it recycled all the content that was left over from when Disney cancelled Pirates of the Caribbean: Armada of the Damned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_Armada_of_the_Damned
They had a leg up to get good stuff in it.
SolidSnakex
Member
Things haven't been going too well for any of the toys to life brands
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-04-20-toys-to-lifes-problem-isnt-saturation-its-fatigue
CosmicQueso
Member
If you're going to make a major announcement like that as part of an earnings call, telling employees like social media teams beforehand generally wouldn't be done. Not saying that's what happened here, but controlling the messaging is a big part of earnings calls.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Well, bought the Boba Fett figure I was eyeing for last month. What a bummer.
AgentOtaku
Member
This is fucking shocking 
a Master Ninja
Member
It's probably been mentioned, but the free Cartwheel app gets you 75% OFF all Disney Infinity 1.0 and 2.0 figures at Target. Plus they price match Amazon and the coupon stacks on top of that.
They said they weren't doing a 4.0 this year. I don't remember seeing anything about stopping at 3.0 before today.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Figures that Disney Infinity starts with Pixar Franchises and Johnny Depp (Monsters/Incredibles, Pirates) and ends with a Pixar Franchise and Johnny Depp (Dory, Alice)
Emerson's Essentia
Banned
Till this day I only have the most vague notion of Disney Infinity even is.
So it's not that surprising this is going under.
So it's not that surprising this is going under.
They're already happening at a few Best Buy stores. I'm not sure how security is being done on them, but it's a real thing.
SatoAilDarko
Member
Is it possible that the failure of Power Discs are particularly to blame?
Perhaps Disney was counting for high sales of those. $2.50 for a plastic disk with art must have had much better margins than figures. Considering they had blind packs and rare discs for the first two games they must have hoped for sales.
Instead it seems they were heavily discounted to $1/$2 from $5 everywhere.
Even doing away with blind packs and selling 4 discs for $10 seems not have worked. Less than a month after having them on sale for $5 Best Buy discounted them to $2. There were still tons left at the end of the week.
I wonder if the who model only worked if people were interested in buying these cheap to produce disks?
If you can find any. All the local stores in Connecticut have stock for certain stuff but seem to be just discontinuing the products so you can't buy them and donate them to Goodwill.
Was able to get some 2.0 Marvel Power Packs from one store from the back even though they showed zero stock in the state.
Perhaps Disney was counting for high sales of those. $2.50 for a plastic disk with art must have had much better margins than figures. Considering they had blind packs and rare discs for the first two games they must have hoped for sales.
Instead it seems they were heavily discounted to $1/$2 from $5 everywhere.
Even doing away with blind packs and selling 4 discs for $10 seems not have worked. Less than a month after having them on sale for $5 Best Buy discounted them to $2. There were still tons left at the end of the week.
I wonder if the who model only worked if people were interested in buying these cheap to produce disks?
If you can find any. All the local stores in Connecticut have stock for certain stuff but seem to be just discontinuing the products so you can't buy them and donate them to Goodwill.
Was able to get some 2.0 Marvel Power Packs from one store from the back even though they showed zero stock in the state.
My biggest fear with the possibility of Skylanders dying is that it might take Toys for Bob and Vicarious Visions down with it. Both of them have such long and storied histories that seeing them go would hurt like a son of a bitch.
User 479360
Banned
I thought Warner Bros. would be the first to drop out, because people don't seem to care about LEGO Dimensions. But maybe I'm wrong about that.
I doubt Epic Mickey 2 sold a few millions, that was the first Epic Mickey.
The sequel, despite going full multiplatform (Wii, WiiU, 360, PS3, Vita and a spinoff on 3DS), sold less than the original game.
Chiaroscuro
Member
Nope, that is the opposite. Skulls as a race is allowed, Super Skrull is not.
recklesscognition
Member
Wow! I just bought 2.0 and 3.0 mad cheap at Target and got a ton of cheap 3.0 stuff at BB on a sale a week or two ago. I was curious why Target told me they were just throwing out the 2.0 stuff. Luckily the manager just gave them to me for a huge markdown.
This completely came out of nowhere. My kids love this series. At least I've got enough content in there for them for a couple years.
This completely came out of nowhere. My kids love this series. At least I've got enough content in there for them for a couple years.
This is literally what I said in my post...
Fox Mulder
Member
It's crazy the amount of licenses Lego has as well.
User 479360
Banned
It is
I was given a copy of LEGO Dimensions, but have yet to play it. Having to build the things turns me off, and I'm just not a big LEGO game fan.
I need to get to it this summer.
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
I know this isn't really what the thread is about but I wonder if this adds more credence to the rumoured PS4 Spider-Man game. If Disney is only looking to license their IP out for console games it would make sense that they'd want to work with a Publisher / Developer like Sony who can put up the cost of the game with little to no risk for Disney.
antiquegamer
Member
You might as well gift it forward, if you hate building Lego and doesn't enjoy Lego video game.
I mentioned it earlier, but this wouldn't have any bearing on that since the rights to Spider-Man games are presently with Activision. Not for much longer, mind you, but it's unrelated.
User 479360
Banned
Yeah. I've enjoyed some LEGO games, but bore of them kind of quickly.
There's nobody to really gift it forward to around me and I want to cross it off my mental backlog, so I will play it someday.
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
I could be wrong, but when the rumour first popped up a lot of people in that thread were claiming Activision now only holds the rights to SM games specifically tied to a movie, apparently their rights to the non movie Spider-Man video games have expired and reverted back to Disney.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Damn. Thanks. Hitting up Target this week then.
Shauneepeak
Member
Well damn along with the others first thing I thought was poor Brandon. But this just makes me extra pissed at Disney. They buy up Star Wars acquiring LucasArts, kills LucasArts and in the process the brilliant looking 1313, now just a few years later they are realizing maybe console games wasn't for them.............
bluelightningduo
Member
Please God let this mean KOTOR 3. Please.
User 479360
Banned
Avalanche did a very good and under-recognized job with both Toy Story 3 and Cars 2. They were really fun games. Especially Toy Story 3, which was super robust.
CosmicQueso
Member
Your first assumption is incorrect. High inventory costs, high placement at retail costs, high costs of price promotion to move inventory through retail, lots of employees both development and sales, high marketing costs, and a market that has still not transitioned a majority of sales to next gen and which is flat to down despite the entrance of the Star Wars IP.
The lengths people will go to champion the ideologies of their favorite company is mind boggling.
flipswitch
Member
Avalanche as in Just Cause developers?
World SkiFree
Member
Yes, both of those games were very well done.
I'm confused, what does KOTOR have to do with this news?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
You don't have to build anything. The game can't tell whether you've built anything or not.
Just put labels on the RFID tags. (And you only even need to do that for the vehicles. The character tags have unique art on them.)
Yeah. I'd say this is less an indicator of the health of Toys to Life and more that Disney, as a company, doesn't have any institutional pride or institutional investment in being a video game publisher. It's easy for their shareholders and corporate to kill the games business because the math works out for them, even if it wasn't a tire fire for them.
RPGCrazied
Member
Will the figures not get made anymore?? I guess need to buy those soon if so.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
That's pretty crazy - licensing does seem to be Disney's strongest suit though with the likes of Star Wars, Disney Tsum Tsum & Kingdom Hearts performing very well for them. Saddened for the closure of the studio though.
And this is in the face of a notably profitable licensing business, along with rosier, much less risky prospects in mobile, so it looks pretty comparatively bad.