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EDGE: "Power struggle: the real differences between PS4 and Xbox One performance"
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Yes I did so in that SV
They'll be taking a huge loss off of each console sold if they do that, & Microsoft's shareholders will be very upset about it, as they want MS to make a profit off of each Xbox One console sold from the get-go.
The only way they can compete with the PS4 in price is if they come out with a Kinectless model, but it may wind up being costly to Microsoft as well.
But motion controls are dead within consoles. The Wii-mote & PS Move are both dead, the Wii U Gamepad isn't picking up any steam, & Kinect's popularity has waned.
I don't see how another version of Kinect is going to get a lot of people to shell out $500 w/tax for it, especially when most of them have already had Kinect for Xbox 360. Most casuals are gonna say, "Been there, done that," & just move onto other things.
helvetica bold
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No are you serious? You can't compare the games. It's so funny how some think Xbox One can't process
1080p games but Forza 5 proves otherwise. hey Im getting both systems and I want to see them both thrive.
Is it me or is 90% of neogaf against Mircosoft??
Read digital foundry's article on Forza 5
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-xbox-one
so what kinect games is your son going to play on XB1? Tablet seems like a much better introduction to the games, as it is most intuitive and there is large selection. I am not sure that your son will be able to play any kinect game properly at that age. Controllers are also a problem until the age of 4.
Same goes for navigating TV with voice commands... i wonder how well that will work with a kid.
Now that my sons are 5 and 7, they can handle pretty much everything on their own these days.
Main problem is with kids very young is that there are not many games for consoles built for them. Tablets have millions. We played a lot of R&C when my younger was 4yrs old and thats only "real" game that we could co-op... Eyetoy mini-games were ... mini-games, not more fun than what he plays on tablet already.
Nervous Sausage
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I don't think there will be anything like the graphical difference between the PS2 version of Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and the Xbox version and yet tons of people bought the inferior PS2 version. Both console versions should be near identical at a glance. I don't think power or price are necessarily the biggest factors to what people will choose, but brand perception and the online ecosystem. Not everybody is into rebuilding their friends list, Xbox Live is where their friends are and the Xbox built it's name on online play. For a lot people it's fair to assume Xbox is the place to be for console online and with dedicated servers and Sony now charging for PS4 online play, it doesn't exactly seem tantalizing to jump ship and pay for an in comparison, unproven network.
Combined with the fact that Microsoft has some surefire system sellers like Halo, Titanfall and Kinect garbage as well as the strength and history of Xbox Live, a slight probably non noticeable power difference (in the eyes of the masses) and a price different are going to be the least of their worries. The PS4's power and price advantage may not mean much if it doesn't have the games that resonate with the masses. Personally I'll get both at some point and it will be interesting to see the differences between multiplats and operating systems/online networks first hand because right now all i have are my perceptions and speculations.
Combined with the fact that Microsoft has some surefire system sellers like Halo, Titanfall and Kinect garbage as well as the strength and history of Xbox Live, a slight probably non noticeable power difference (in the eyes of the masses) and a price different are going to be the least of their worries. The PS4's power and price advantage may not mean much if it doesn't have the games that resonate with the masses. Personally I'll get both at some point and it will be interesting to see the differences between multiplats and operating systems/online networks first hand because right now all i have are my perceptions and speculations.
If they want to piss off the majority of the dev community, then sure. All next-gen consoles(that includes Wii U!) can handle 1080p perfectly fine. They each have 1080p games. It's all about how demanding the developers' games are. That's why the idea of such a mandate wouldn't sit well with devs. Even Sony's own studios are already targeting some sub 1080p games.
You're probably thinking; "As they get more familiar with the console, that target resolution will he easier to hit." That's only partly true. On the other hand, the more devs understand about the hardware, the harder they want to work them. That's why we still see a ton of sub-720p games on current-gen - even though devs have 7+ yrs of familiarity with the hardware - and they can handle 720p just fine.
They'll always want to push the GPU to its limits with more effects, on-screen detail, advancements in lighting/shading, etc. That usually comes with a trade-off of either framerate or resolution. For an acceptable framerate - whether targeting 30 or 60 - having the option to drop a 'few' pixels is a necessity, and at the very least, a peace of mind.
A 720p mandate...now that's more reasonable!
He already has a galaxy tab that he uses fairly well and our main computer is an AIO with a touchscreen that he uses alot. He still though wants to watch stuff on the big TV and he can navigate netflix and youtube on his tablet but he can't navigate netflix or change channels on our big tv.
He's 3 so when I try and reason with him to just watch netflix on his tablet doesn't work the same when he wants to watch stuff on the big tv. It will be a big deal to him to be able to pick and choose what channel he wants to watch or what program on netflix to watch on the big tv cause he can do that with touch on his tablet or our AIO but not the big tv now.
The voice commands will work well with him with Cable and netflix integration. He will be able to get the idea that he can say "Xbox nick JR" to switch the channel or "Xbox netflix sponge bob"
As far as kinect games their is nothing really announced now but hopefully their will be some similar type games like the Disney world game or even zoo tycoon also hoping some indie type stuff might be aimed at kids that uses kinect. It's got potential and is what sold me for a day one purchase.
Like I said a PS4 right now would only serve my needs while an Xbox One with additional features can be useful for my whole family. How well it works in real life is yet to be seen but at least that potential is there.
And make no mistake I'm not trying to say millions of people are in my exact shoes and will buy it in droves because of it but just trying to give a real world scenario of why at least for me kinect and TV integration and a voice activated remote control was a deciding factor to buy it at launch.
Wishmaster92
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And they will drop it like how ms did with the xbox360. Really, it is inevitable. Also since Deep Down is now a ps exclusive i hope it will run at 1080p (or close at least) by launch, but for now it's 720p.
SeventhSon
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Neo... GAF
gundamkyoukai
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Nope all of Sony first party games will stay 1080p just like all of Sony first party games on PS3 are 720p .
It's one thing i am sure you can bet on .
Amazing gif.
Yes in another thread but I still think the PDF should have been ripped & uploaded as JPG & made into a new thread.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Goddamn ElTorro, that's just amazing.
Zatoichi's Cane
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God tier.
Beautiful..Just simply outstanding.
That is very true. So outside of first-party exclusives (and the handful of third party exclusives), both platforms will have releases of multi-platform games from third parties. If you're a big fan of these games, then you've got to make the choice between having the better version, or having the lesser one. Of course other factors come into play, such as friends, etc.
It's really a bunch of factors that people need to take into consideration when choosing a platform, but power and price are two good factors to consider; especially when the cheaper option is providing the best performance for games.
not sure if serious
KoopaTheCasual
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ElTorro is SunniLegend successor confirmed?
idrinkalone
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sucks ps4 relies on numers while the box relies on games.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I don't even know who's trolling and who's serious anymore.
I'm sure you'll go far on these forums...
Ken Masters
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Holy shit
googleplex
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This is sarcasm right? As the next gen consoles get closer to launch, its getting harder and harder to tell sarcasm from fanboy lunacy.
idrinkalone
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awwww nib i have seen you troll a plethora of xbox articles...is it cause you want one or cause u just want to shit on it?
btw xbox is more powefull cpu wise.
I agree
Neuromancer
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PS4 has no gamez
idrinkalone
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sorry bra knack isnt cutting it for me.. throw me ff and we can talk.
idrinkalone
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none i want.
This made me laugh out loud for some reason.
statham
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Some actually like the xbox one line up. Nothing wrong with that
He did not say anything about Knack and I doubt he is a female undergarment.
XBO has a possible (PS4 CPU is still unconfirmed) 9% CPU advantage in an age where more and more CPU processes are being offloaded onto the GPU. PS4 has a greater than 40% GPU advantage and a better RAM set up.
I also don't know why people keep stating XBO has better games as a fact. Totally subjective and goes both ways. I'd be fine if people just said they preferred the XBO lineup but there are hundreds of posts acting like MS' lineup is objectively better.
And who said there was anything wrong with that?
I am getting the CPU power house.
I am getting Ryse for my little son, he is 1 year old and learned his first alphabet "A". should be qualified enough to finish the game. can't get any more kid friendly game.
What does that have to do with the response you're quoting :S Both consoles have games. His post seems to imply that the Xbox One has games whilst the PS4 only has rumours lol....
And some loved the wii u launch line up. Nothing wrong with either.
Knack is the only PS4 lauch exclusive?
not just exclusive . it's The only game it's launching with bro
idrinkalone
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im buying it for my 2 yr old nephew as well! we think alike!
haZethew0rld
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LOL.
way over qualified, bro
statham
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I agree
Wishmaster92
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lol
BleachAndPepsi
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I don't think it's wise to go picking fights with other users. But whatever gets you off, I guess.
Codeblew
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Read his post history for the past week. Class A troll.
I salute you good sir
I wasn't the one that initially compared Infamous and Forza, I simply responded to someone that had. To my knowledge, no one is saying that X1 can't do 1080p, as that is possible on a range of systems, provided the amount of effects and geometry (among other things) allow for it. This brings us to Forza 5. It uses baked lighting, screen-space reflections and static backgrounds to obtain its resolution and frame rate. I'm not saying that it doesn't look good, but - besides the bump in resolution- it isn't really doing anything that Forza 3 didn't already do. By contrast, there are plenty of PS4 titles making use of effects that either couldn't be used, or couldn't be used in conjunction with others during the previous generation.