Stabby McSter
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FOUR MORE YEARS FOUR MORE YEARS
It means developers still can't push an update live to their game without it going through Microsoft's process. They also need a publisher to push any game onto the platform at all.
This was never going to happen when the Windows 8 Store rumour was thrown away at the presentation. I wonder if it's still a W8 SDK they're using or if that's just for apps.
Self-publishing means I can make a game and put it out on the internet without going through a distribution and promotion company (publisher). That's why everyone is excited about indies on the PS4. Right now, if I want to put my game out on XBLA, I need EA or someone else to publish it and take a cut of my cheques, even though they're not really doing much besides some testing (which MS will do anyways during cert).
Stuff like small developers having to go through Microsoft's certification process for patches/games and the like.
You know, the thing made it take forever for the Skullgirls patch to go up on 360, when it was already up on PS3.
Well this explains why developers were writing love letters to Sony and not much of a peep has come out of them for the Xbox. I think big publishers will still be with Xbox for the DRM crap but the smaller devs will opt for the PS4, maybe even exclusively.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=561741
^^ LOL Sony fanboys feeling themselves hard.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=561741
^^ LOL Sony fanboys feeling themselves hard.
You know what's the best part about when something terrible happens in the gaming industry?
Castle Vidcons gets revived for the day. I wish they did these more often, I don't think they've ever made a bad one.
Castle Vidcons gets revived for the day. I wish they did these more often, I don't think they've ever made a bad one.
toddhunter
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You would expect so. But at the same time I'm sure successful games will get a publisher deal and xbox release. Kind of like this gen but in reverse.
Essentially, they're telling people who make games but aren't associated with publishers that have 3 shipped titles for an Xbox product to fuck off. They either have to buddy up with a pub or go elsewhere.
The really fucking hilarious part? Ninten-"what is an internet/digital distribution goes where?"-do of all motherfucking companies allows self publishing.
How does a company like Microsoft get upstarted in digital content production policy by Nintendo man? That's like fucking CJShowstopper winning Marvel at EVO.
well, they do have that rule that if you publish first on any other console, MS may refuse you for Xbox. They waive it, but still.
It's all because of the policies they set at the start of the gen. They set them, and stuck to them, it's like they were trying to find loopholes in their own policies. They'd come up with creative ways to release multiple games instead of just the one every week and it'd take several years to relax them one by one.
PSN grew over time, and eventually became more and more flexible for developers. MS barely changed. Let's not forget how increasing the size of XBLA games allowed was a huge announcement throughout the history of the 360. There's still a cap I think.
This is why I was so damn excited for next gen to hit. It gives them a chance to change their policies. Modernize. Build a new infrastructure and get rid of the shackles from this generation's platform standards. And they just.. didn't. Even after seeing what Sony was doing. You would think, considering how fucking badly WP8 and W8 need app developers, they would integrate their ecosystems through WinRT, but nope.
I worked in cert for years on these consoles, and it's more of a clusterfuck than people could imagine. I kind of wish I was still doing it when the Wii U launched because I wanted to see if they could un-fuck their terrible process when it rolled around. But then I'd still be doing cert.
Please add me, PSN:AAK0924.
To think... people called me crazy when I doubted controller forward compatibility. "Your stick will be fine!" they said, "It's USB!" they said. Hogwash!
microsoft to miss out on an opportunity to take advantage of their costumers? not likely.
call_kotaku
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why would you need an arcade stick when you have kinect 2?
Parallax Scroll
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"Xbox, do TAC infinite."
MarkMan
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makeamidget
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NOT SURE IF THIS IS ALLOWED
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toddhunter
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Parallax Scroll
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Listening to The Show That Sucks. I think this is the first time I've ever heard Honzo talk seriously about something instead of trolling.
Karsticles
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Who needs to exercise when I'm trying to play Morrigan in MvC4?
It's fine to do this, but you'll generally get better results if you go to the Marvel thread and add your name to the player list, and friend some folks:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494223
I don't think a console can survive on AAA alone.
If the mid-majors and below just decide not to play Microsoft's game, that's as big as EA dropping Wii U.
toddhunter
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Don't need it. If you are about to lose? "Xbox off". Get win from your opponent quitting.
Assuming you can switch that shit off from your end which you probably can't
Next week's Divekick character is going to be a Fanatiq parody, I can feel it.
His ability will be that he can activate a glowing controller in his hands that blinds both you and the opponent.
This is why Sony aggressively entering the indie market is a great idea. They've realized the disruptive selection that is occurring in game budgets and knowing that they already have a huge amount of reliable AAA studios and IPs and are cornering the other end of the market as a result.
His ability will be that he can activate a glowing controller in his hands that blinds both you and the opponent.
AA are having trouble surviving alone. I don't think MS will have problems with any publishers unless the console really is that much of a failure. They're doing too much good for greedy publishers, and I think it would only help those AA games from those publishers more if the option of buying used versions of those games is removed. They'll fall to lower MSRP and people will buy them then, OR since both Sony and MS support flexible MSRPs, you'll see games coming out at $40 or maybe even lower and people will gravitate less to use games anyways and just make the purchase. I don't know how this will work out in actuality though, it's pretty unprecedented what is going on right now with used game blockage.
This is why Sony aggressively entering the indie market is a great idea. They've realized the disruptive selection that is occurring in game budgets and knowing that they already have a huge amount of reliable AAA studios and IPs and are cornering the other end of the market as a result.
Karsticles
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Why would Keits want to add to his popularity?
biosnake20
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Just caught up with all the new Xbox info. Some pretty confusing stuff.
Seems like microsoft doesn't give a fuck about the non-U.S. market. Japan, as well as anybody who lives in a big city (who isn't rich) won't even have the option of fucking around with manditory kinect due to space limitations where they live (and no used games is a death knell in Japan as well). People w/o reasonably reliable internet connections are out too. That leaves what? suburban America?
Passive Assassin
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COD crowd takes more precedence in Microsoft's eyes.
This is true.
This song is underrated and makes for some of the best GIFs too.Just caught up with all the new Xbox info. Some pretty confusing stuff.
Japan got fucked HARD. Europe got FIFA though, but from the sound of it, it's like they only got a CE or special mode or something. Just mentioned this in another thread too, but the entire conference was full of imprecise language and poor explanations.
DryEyeRelief
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capcom
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
How many people in Japan have a 360?
How many people in America give a shit about FIFA?
Just in case you're curious what inspired that post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=58505213&postcount=174
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=58505213&postcount=174
Certain niche markets care about 360 in Japan (shmup fans, fighter fans), and the 360 still absolutely has retail presence at game/electronic stores to this day, even if it's significantly smaller than ps3. xbone will have 0%
toddhunter
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Yep almost for certain. It'll play Halo, it'll play COD, it'll do just fine. Despite all the drama of the day I can't see much if anything changing and I'd still expect it to be the console of choice for Americans.
Still about 1.6 million compared to around 10 million PS3s and just under a million WiiU. They sell about 500 a week there.
Karsticles
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Answers above, no favoritism shown. I shall unveil the answers to other questions upon your request, friend!
This strong possibility honestly terrifies me. I consider today to be an opportunity for gamers to have a major win, but will they take it?
I have some confidence it will just because all of the Xbots I know (and I use that term appropriately, these guys just buy whatever gets advertising dollars and regurgitate company PR speak) are moving to PC gaming and have invested a lot after all the big bad rumors surfaced. There's a chance people will actually avoid the system. I honestly consider this to be a war that needs to be won, just like SFxT was with Capcom. And just like Capcom, this isn't an anti-Microsoft thing. Companies just need to be put in their place.
Your gonna need to specify ALL the criteria or else your going to get bias no matter what.
My biased answer is Capcom because they nail a lot of the things I feel are important (character design, animation, fun combat system) despite lacking in other areas.
I'd honestly say Namco at the moment, with Arc 2nd.
If VF was bigger I'd throw Sega up there.
I agree with your answers aside from balance- isn't vf final showdown supposed to have fantastic balance? Arcsys fucks up a lot in the balance dept, even if they regularly do better than many.
toddhunter
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ASW to me are the best developer even though Capcom make by far my favourite games.
Who knows, but I think this gen, in America, was won simply because people played Halo and COD online, and subscribed to Live. Because they paid that fee, they also played other multiplayer games online and hence it became the defacto console of choice because that is what everybody's friends had (similar in Australia but in reverse due to Fifa and a few other titles and a huge PS3 giveaway program with bravia TVs).
Obviously with Halo that isn't going to change and I'm sure Microsoft will be wrapping up COD shit too. Unless some other game pops up as the "next big thing", and I see nothing to suggest it will given the continued strong sales of those franchises I'd expect history to repeat itself.
The great news is I don't think it matters one way or another. With the PC going amazingly well just with indie or free games, the PS4 looking strong, the Xbox one being there by default and the Wii U still doing its own thing (and we all know there will be some big Nintendo games around E3 that'll keep the fans happy) it is still a great time for gaming. Sure there will be a few fuck ups along the way, but I'm sure we will still have plenty of choices about what to play.
Now all we need is an amazing looking fighting game to get excited about. GG looks great, but that is a little too abstract at this stage for me until we see more. Hopefully in a few weeks we get a glimpse of something else, even if it is a long way off.
