AuthenticM
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I've never played VII in French. I know FFIV DS used the exponents. I forget what the XIII games used. Though I did play X in French for the first time with the HD release and it did use Brasier + and X. I don't like it, haha.
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Final Fantasy XV - German/French dubs announced, Lat.Am Spanish/BrazilPortuguese text
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I've never played VII in French. I know FFIV DS used the exponents. I forget what the XIII games used. Though I did play X in French for the first time with the HD release and it did use Brasier + and X. I don't like it, haha.
Would actually be cool if the same voice actor would provide the voice for the Japanese and the German Prompto. Too bad it probably won't happen.
maybe... but 'ive spoken to an spanish lady from madrid and i still could understand her perfectly too... i think the similarities make it harder to understand actually...
and nope i haven't watched chavo in spanish yet, luckly they still air it here(yep, they still do)
I've always wanted to ask something abut latin spanish dubs: how do they work? you have a lot of countries that speak the same language, but I don't think they do a version for each country, so where are your dubs usually made? Aren't there huge differences between...say.. mexican spanish and chilean spanish? In brazil we have a lot of different accents and regional differences but the dubs are always made in São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, and since i'm from São Paulo that doesn't bother me, but i was curious since it's not just a state change, but country changes too...
it is still early, I know, but nice efforts have been made, specially with Sony First and Second Party studios. Both God of War and The Last of Us include Latin American spanish dubs, and they were pretty great, not on the english level, but not that far behind either. I don't know if Uncharted has ever included those options
AcademicSaucer
Member
Because every country has its own words and phrases, they use the ones that are common to all of them, in the end they get a "neutral" spanish.
I stand corrected.
XIV has changed this.
Feu1 is Feu
Feu2 is Extra Feu
Feu3 is Méga Feu
Same for Cure / Cura / Curaga etc.
oh... i see, so it's a bit more democratic than what they do around here where two regions had dominated the dub market i guess xD
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Pretty impressive. Square really seem to be making a concentrated effort to have this game enjoyed by as many people as possible. I hope that we'll continue to see this for even more games in the future, because growing the audience is a good thing for everyone.
I'm happy for everyone who will get to play the games in their native tongue for the first time.
I'm happy for everyone who will get to play the games in their native tongue for the first time.
AuthenticM
Member
Lame.
I feel that the French localizers cannot come up with set terms to reuse in future games; it seems to change all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if XV also uses different names.
Alex_Mexico
Member
As others have responded yes, they aim for the most neutral words that are common in all regions.
In English it'd be like if they had to choose between the British word "bloke" or the American "dude" and they went for the neutral "person", or "man". Something similar works for Latin Spanish dubs. Also they try to keep the regional accent as neutral as possible. And yes most are done in Mexico but Chile, Colombia and Argentina do some from time to time. Venezuela used to make some but they have more important stuff to worry about now, sadly.
Spaniards practically don't know the meaning of the word neutral so their dubs are worth Jack and shit for any Spanish speaker outside of Spain so they get their own dubs that are never used over here.
I never expected a solo Final Fantasy game with French dubs... The last JRPG I remember having French dubs was Blue Dragon.
I was surprised to hear French dubs in FF14 too but I thought "Yeah it's a popular MMO after all...".
If they are good, OK I'll keep them on. Otherwise, back to English and/or Japanese.
It's nice to see S-E putting everything into this game.
But for fuck's sake S-E, don't use the Advent Children FR voice actors for FFVII Remake please. That dub was mediocre.
I was surprised to hear French dubs in FF14 too but I thought "Yeah it's a popular MMO after all...".
If they are good, OK I'll keep them on. Otherwise, back to English and/or Japanese.
It's nice to see S-E putting everything into this game.
But for fuck's sake S-E, don't use the Advent Children FR voice actors for FFVII Remake please. That dub was mediocre.
Dead Prince
Banned
the marketing push for this game will be huge isn't it. expecting noctis to become the new Lightning and get a 5 year contract with a modeling agency and cologne line and clothing too.
the only negative experience I had with german dubs was for Skyrim, were the whole game was likely voiced by 2 people (a man and a woman) xD
Pretty sure there was a cologne line even before it got rebranded.
hah... I figured spain would be like portugal in that regard... though i don't blame them, it's not worth making a version no one would be happy with(or even understand lol)
Luckly you can agree in a neutral spanish for latin america then... it'd be awful if you had to stick with a latin spanish version that excludes your country like the european versions do...
I believe Tabata mentioned italian text a some time ago(and episode duscae mentioned it too if i recall correctly...) is just that the headlines are the german and french voices, as well as the brazilian portuguese and latin america spanish versions are the unexpected news this time
I mean... If older FF games had italian text, there's no reason they won't have it now
What you call 'neutral' is Latin American to us, that's why we hate those dubs in Spain.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Woa now im even more hyped.
Makes me confident that Kingdom Hearts 3 will receive a german dub too.
Makes me confident that Kingdom Hearts 3 will receive a german dub too.
GhostTrick
Banned
That's what I believe as well. Now it could be just SE really trying to reach a broader audience.
Mendax
Member
i thought the english 3 men and 3 women was so bad it was super funny, amazing if german was even worse lol ^^
I always thought Phantasy Star 1 got a Portuguese translation back in the day, no?
TeddyShardik
Banned
As long as I can change it to English go ahead. German dubs are aweful. Like almost all of them.
I was so pissed when I got Wolfenstein only to find out there was only the German dub. Still didn't play much of the game because of it.
Oh, thank god! Did I mention I hate German dubs?
I was so pissed when I got Wolfenstein only to find out there was only the German dub. Still didn't play much of the game because of it.
Oh, thank god! Did I mention I hate German dubs?
QuiteWhittle
Member
Off topic but I don't know where to put it, we have a short look of what appears to be an in-game version of the inside of that palace in Altissia.
No spanish from spain?
The game will have two different localizations/translations: one to latin american spanish and another one to european spanish. Both of them will be dubbed in english/japanese.
AcademicSaucer
Member
We know you guys love your onda vital : )
stargateheaven
Member
wow... just how much budget are they gonna use on this game?
Localizing to local markets can be REALLY worth it in Europe, especially in countries like a very Anglophobic (as far as the language goes) France. We aren't just talking about a few more thousand copies sold, it can really drive sales to whole new levels vs. not doing it.
rayman1900
Member
As to what I read so far on Final fantasy blogs/Facebook from French medias in regards to this new, people seems fine with French localization, but will still play the game with jp audio regardless... It's how far they have faith in their dub actors !
Sure, for a lot of people it's enough if they just get texts/subtitles in French or whatever the nationality/language, but dubs make it even more accessible for an even larger audience, at least if it's done even half-decently.
Spiritwalker
Member
That's cool, they're clearly pushing this game hard. I'm glad my country doesn't do dubs though.
Only a very small fraction will probably play the game in japanese, I mean it's not like japanese is huge in France. So I assume only the most hardcore French ottakus will play the game on japanese and offcourse they will brag about it on every occasion they find (Forums like NeoGaf xD)
Alex_Mexico
Member
Oh God I remember people on GAF and Kotaku honest to goodness complaining because MGS4 wasn't going to include the Japanese dub whining how they can't stand the English dub. As if any of the previous Metal Gears have included the JP track at all. Unless you live in Japan there's little reason to believe you grew up with Snake speaking Japanese (and if you do live there getting a Japanese MGS4 wasn't going to be a problem) and still people found a way to complain about it.
I'll play the game in Japanese and know many others will. A lot of people who watch anime are FFXV fans and they know that the Japanese voice cast is off the charts, while others know Japanese and can understand nuances from the Japanese script that never would make it into the English localization because it's grammatically impossible. (like suffering passive)
As a Portuguese guy living in England I'll go with English dub and text. I almost always prefer the original version anyway and if I read stuff in Brazilian Portuguese in my head I start reading in a soap opera accent and it just grinds my mind and brings me out of immersion.
To be fair, even if there was a Luso-Portuguese version I would still go with the original one.
To be fair, even if there was a Luso-Portuguese version I would still go with the original one.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Éric Legrand as Noctis please
Rising_Hei
Member
I'm going to throw light with this Latin's Spanish and Spain's Spanish thingy..
Well, the problem isn't really with the whole "latin spanish", the closer a country that speak spanish is to EE.UU, the more friction there is between our dialects (i'm from Spain.)
Mexican's spanish, EE.UU.'s spanish (Florida and such), are hugely influenced by the english language, there are so many semantic calcs in that spanish; the structure they use, the words, the "rules" of their grammar... whereas here in Spain we aren't that influenced by other languages (unless you're a bad news writer) as they are with english, so our Spanish retains more of its specific traits and we have more set phrases of our own.
Examples: The use of articles and the gender of the words, since everything in english is "the", they are used to use the article "el" (spanish's equivalent) for every many words, even if it's feminine in spanish. English is neutral in this aspects, we're not. I think this happens with mostly neologisms, tho.
Examples
ENG -> Latin SP -> Spain SP
the car -> el carro -> el coche
the cell phone -> el celular -> el móvil
the computer -> el computador -> El ordenador
the PlayStation 4 -> el PS4 -> La ps4
The final result is that people who use "latin spanish" can't bear spain's spanish; and Spanish people can't bear that spanish.
I have to say that, the more further Latin Spanish users are from EE.UU, the less friction there is with our own.
English based languages don't have this problem because they are their own reference; they are who create most things, since english is the international language nowadays.
Well, the problem isn't really with the whole "latin spanish", the closer a country that speak spanish is to EE.UU, the more friction there is between our dialects (i'm from Spain.)
Mexican's spanish, EE.UU.'s spanish (Florida and such), are hugely influenced by the english language, there are so many semantic calcs in that spanish; the structure they use, the words, the "rules" of their grammar... whereas here in Spain we aren't that influenced by other languages (unless you're a bad news writer) as they are with english, so our Spanish retains more of its specific traits and we have more set phrases of our own.
Examples: The use of articles and the gender of the words, since everything in english is "the", they are used to use the article "el" (spanish's equivalent) for every many words, even if it's feminine in spanish. English is neutral in this aspects, we're not. I think this happens with mostly neologisms, tho.
Examples
ENG -> Latin SP -> Spain SP
the car -> el carro -> el coche
the cell phone -> el celular -> el móvil
the computer -> el computador -> El ordenador
the PlayStation 4 -> el PS4 -> La ps4
The final result is that people who use "latin spanish" can't bear spain's spanish; and Spanish people can't bear that spanish.
I have to say that, the more further Latin Spanish users are from EE.UU, the less friction there is with our own.
English based languages don't have this problem because they are their own reference; they are who create most things, since english is the international language nowadays.
Not really.
Alex_Mexico
Member
I understand the EE.UU. term but an American here not in the know might think you meant European Union.
Also we, at least in Mexico, never ever ever ever will refer to a PC by "el computador". Its always "la computadora".
You're 100% correct on consoles though. Everyone and their mom here say "el Playstation" or "el Nintendo". Its weird and ear shattering to hear "la Playstation". I know "la consola" is feminine but so many other synonyms that can apply to a videogame console are masculine like "el aparato", "el juego", or even the outdated "el juguete". And I agree that being near the USA does influence but you can't deny the differences have been there for ages long before the invention and influence the US had with their movies, tv and whatnot.
Also what's up with your brethren calling Spider-Man "speederman" (en español pronunciado "espiderman"), I find that very weird because thats neither english or spanish. Just go with "Hombre-Araña" instead
And don't even get me started with the "onda vital" term being used in Spain's dub for every move on DBZ. That wasn't US influence, that was just lazy dubbing XD
We really really really don't.
hans_castorp
Member
It may sounds more "neutral" to you because it is the spanish you grew up with. But for us in europe, understanding mexican can prove really difficult. You guys have your own words and expression. Also lots of loanwords from english.
I really hate "neutral" spanish. It is an artificial language nobody uses. Each country should have its own script.
Alex_Mexico
Member
What you might've heard was Mexican Spanish with all the lingo. As much as we love or hate neutral spanish the truth is anyone can understand it. No one actually speaks like that, but everyone will understand it because it uses neutral words. Less "gilipolla" and more "mierda". From Argentina to Mexico everyone will understand mierda but few will gilipolla. More "niño, hombre, muchacho" and less "chaval". There is nothing difficult to understand about neutral spanish, even if you don't like it.