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Forza Motorsport 6 Announced for Xbox One
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You call me "condescending", "uninformed", and "obnoxious". Yet I have never once said that my opinion is better than anyone else, or even insulted anyone for thinking otherwise.
If any post in this thread is "Obnoxious", it's the one you just wrote :/
Forza Horizon 2 uses the same engine and had dynamic ToD and Weather, magic isn't it? The tech is already there, but they have to optimize it to work at 60 fps and model external and internal illumination on cars, which I think is the reason FH2 gets 6 cars per DLC pack and Forza 5 got 10.
When will this shit stop?
Seems we have another hate train building as it reminds me of Destiny but less intense (thus far).
Did anyone make that new thread for FM6 discussion?
When you say stuff like "this ugly shit" to describe a modern Lamborghini (which you forget it took decades of gradual design evolution to get here), it's obnoxious. One's man trash is another man's treasure, etc?
You make it seem like we went from Miura to Aventador.
Like all other brands, we got here over time. Decades.
Betta Lines
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This isn't true. There are legal, packaging, manufacturing requirements that are laid out by engineers, but there are still artists, and they still do it with pencil sketches, and clay modelling. Even on the most bland commuter boxes. There is plenty of back and forth through computer modelling and aero and stress testing, but the artistry has not gone away. If anything it has improved, as they have to work with stricter guidelines and are still able to create distinctive styles. The romance is just nostalgia talking (not that there is anything wrong with that).
Well, old supercars had an elegance to them. They were more romantic. Designed by artists.
Modern cars are designed by engineers on computers.
Now, before you flip out, I know that modern designs are more aerodynamic, go much faster, are safer, and appeal to some people.
But I would take this:
Over this ugly shit:
I'll take this Lambo body over both of those
TheHighFlyingBirds
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I like the old sleek designs too, such as the E and D Type Jags, the Aston DB5/6, and of course the gorgeous AC Cobra.
The new cars are quality pieces of engineering, but looks wise, they have definitely lost the styling for function.
Steverulez
Member
If that's the best you got then that's a terrible effort.
ResidentDante
Member
Q1 next year I think, just before Assassin's Motorsport arrives. Anything else useful you'd like to contribute with?
Well, blame all the people that didn't want to have a 50:50 chance of survival when they drove their cars lol.
Well, old supercars had an elegance to them. They were more romantic. Designed by artists.
Modern cars are designed by engineers on computers.
Now, before you flip out, I know that modern designs are more aerodynamic, go much faster, are safer, and appeal to some people.
But I would take this:
Over this ugly shit:
I find your taste in cars and design philosophy lacking. Much like the classic cars of the past, everything is designed with a rounded look that's already homogenized and overused. Just look at the Prius and the Civic. Lambos have sharp edges and a swept back look to say that this car goes fast, and makes sure everyone in the room knows it. Lamborghini > All. Even Ferrari.
:^)
Dude, no hate here.
I personally really like Assassin's Creed series and totally neutral to Forza's.
I respect that and I respect your opinion. But you could have gotten it across without the insults. Calling someone condescending and then saying that they are uninformed is pretty hypocritical.
Anyway, I have no problem with people liking the more practical designs of modern supercars. I just think they are not as beautiful as older ones
He's allowed to think that a Lamborghini is an ugly piece of shit, regardless of what other people think about it or how much effort went into it's design.
I think he's just pointing out how laughable it is you derided him personally as being condescending and obnoxious after he stated his opinion on an inanimate object. you're not the sole source of truth and beauty.
RoyalLaFlame
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My problem with Lambo design is that it feels like I'm looking at person that's constantly yelling "LOOK! I'M HERE! HEY I'M HERE!". They're not terrible but I think there's no class in its design. My opinion of course.
Still, great cars. And Ferrari > Lambo. In fact Ferrari > all
On the subject of old classics. It would be interesting if there was a Forza or GT game that was all about older cars (And tracks). Forza Classic or something.
I know it would be very niche and wouldn't sell nearly as much as a game with the latest supercar on the front. But it would be good fan service
Just imagine all the Group B rallying on the classic Pikes Peak.
I know it would be very niche and wouldn't sell nearly as much as a game with the latest supercar on the front. But it would be good fan service
Just imagine all the Group B rallying on the classic Pikes Peak.
Roberto Larcos
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Well, old supercars had an elegance to them. They were more romantic. Designed by artists.
Modern cars are designed by engineers on computers.
Now, before you flip out, I know that modern designs are more aerodynamic, go much faster, are safer, and appeal to some people.
But I would take this:
Over this ugly shit:
Well, you've compared an undeniable classic to a not great-looking car at an unflattering angle. But what of the Ferrari 458 Italia and the LaFerrari? Or the Mazda Furai? The Maserati Gran Turismo S? The Pagani Zonda and Huayra? The Bugatti Veyron? The Audi R8? The Aston Martin DBS? My personal favourite, the Alpha 8C? Or even more affordable cars. The new Mustang. The BMW M3? The new Jag XF?
In a similar vein, I could show a clip of Thierry Henry and Robert Pirès mucking up a penalty against Man City, and put it against a Peter Crouch highlight reel. It's misleading.
On the subject of old classics. It would be interesting if there was a Forza or GT game that was all about older cars (And tracks). Forza Classic or something.
I know it would be very niche and wouldn't sell nearly as much as a game with the latest supercar on the front. But it would be good fan service
Just imagine all the Group B rallying on the classic Pikes Peak.
GT Legends was the closest thing to that.
I don't know, I just love anything old. Perhaps because the drive is so engaging with a more mechanical rather than electrical feel to them...
Roberto Larcos
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On the subject of old classics. It would be interesting if there was a Forza or GT game that was all about older cars (And tracks). Forza Classic or something.
I know it would be very niche and wouldn't sell nearly as much as a game with the latest supercar on the front. But it would be good fan service
Just imagine all the Group B rallying on the classic Pikes Peak.
Isn't this what having 'leagues' in Forza is all about? Horizon has the 'Group B Monsters' league, Fords 5 has vintage leagues for Grand Touring Legends, Racing Icons, Classic Sport Compact, American Street Muscle and others.
Roberto Larcos
Member
Ferrari Enzo is the best
What about the Maserati MC12 though?
Roberto Larcos
Member
You can still get that feeling with newer cars. Look at the small British sports cars - Ariel, Caterham, Lotus (if you want something a little more 'refined'.
I agree, the Italia is a very nice car. Elegant, sleek, fast....... However. My heart belongs to another Ferrari
On the subject of old classics. It would be interesting if there was a Forza or GT game that was all about older cars (And tracks). Forza Classic or something.
I know it would be very niche and wouldn't sell nearly as much as a game with the latest supercar on the front. But it would be good fan service
Just imagine all the Group B rallying on the classic Pikes Peak.
If you look at DLC for FM4 and to a lesser extent for FM5 and FH2, you'll see they're doing a lot of the fan service you're talking about.
I mean, average joe probably doesn't care about an Auto Union Typ D, a Maserati Ghibli, a Chaparral 2E, a Mercedes 300SLR or even a Ferrari 500 Mondial...
Edit :
You're all wrong, THIS is the most beautiful Ferrari !
Roberto Larcos
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I agree, the Italia is a very nice car. Elegant, sleek, fast....... However. My heart belongs to another Ferrari
Not a fan of the front if I'm honest. And would you really not rather spend your time marvelling at a Alfa 33 Stradale?
Neue Regel
Banned
I'm sorry, but Aston Martin >>>> All others.
Not a fan of the garish colour of halfords ad ons, much prefer the elegant original
(I know it's a Vanquish but it pretty much looks like a DB9)
I do appreciate the classics that they put into the Forza games. I remember FM4 having a nice balance.
But I'd still love to see a FM cover with something like a Classic Alfa Spider on it or something
(I'm just pipe dreaming for fun at ths point, I don't actually expect anything like this to happen)Dzidza1978
Member
You guys have it all wrong
Yugo>>>>Ferrari's/Lambo's/Aston's
How da hell do you know about Yugo???
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
And we have a winner. Man, that's a good looking car...Edit :
You're all wrong, THIS is the most beautiful Ferrari !
Roberto Larcos
Member
You guys have it all wrong
Yugo>>>>Ferrari's/Lambo's/Aston's
Bro, do you even SsangYong Rodius?
Actually, it's his opinion as shown in his post that comes off obnoxious, condensing, and uninformed. I literally made that clear in the first sentence. I'm speaking up for all the engineers and designers who put in 36 hour days, working just as hard or harder than previous generations have to make the cars perform and behave as they do, while remaining relatively safe and adhering to numerous regulations that were non-existent 40-50 years ago. The uninformed part as I explained earlier, comes from the lack of design identity you displayed in that post. As if the 3 cars in-between the Miura and the Aventador didn't exist. If you don't like the wedge shape, and sharp angles and scoops of the Aventador, then you don't like anything post Miura. Because all these traits existed for decades on all Lamborghini's after it.
How da hell do you know about Yugo???
Zastava!
There's a guy here in the Fiat 128 car club who has what I think is the only one in Sydney.
That, and it was voted 39th worst car of all time by Time Magazine lol..
Lol, holy shit, what an abomination..Bro, do you even SsangYong Rodius?
Sparkedglory
Member
Well I'm glad there's a new forza, but I always feel like they're coming out all the time. I mean they've already caught up with gran turismo.
Every other year isn't too bad really (FM and FH are seperate games). It's just enough time to get the most out of a game before you start wanting for the next one.
It's more to do with PD being understaffed and ps3 being a bitch to develop for. I expect them to go for 3 year dev cycles on ps3, so gt7 in 2016, gt8 in 2019.
Pfffff....
LOL. It looks like they dropped a car on top of another car.
soundscream
Member
Pfffff....
i recognize this. its princess leia in disguise!
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