Still not expecting Winter Soldier numbers. That movie actually did better than expected in international box offices.
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GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY Pre-Hype/News Thread
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Not in all, in some of them (Brazil comes to mind) did worst.
Father_Brain
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Well, better than Thor 1, Cap 1, and Hulk. IM1 grossed $585M worldwide.
BlackNMild2k1
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I'm pretty sure I predicted about the same many weeks ago when we were predicting.
and tracking lines it up with that as a likely minimum, so I'm happy for Gunn, Marvel and all involved, especially the sure expansion of Cosmic Marvel into phase 3.
The 17 minute preview was pretty awesome.... well the 2 scene 12 minute preview, extended trailer and intro from James Gunn was pretty awesome. It took a movie I was merely interested in because it was Marvel and made me quite hyped about it like it was the next Star Wars instead (because it is. The "Star Wars" of a new Generation).
BannedEpisode
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I really like the tech design. It looks super advanced while having that metal lattice grungy look out of Alien or Cowboy Bebop/Firefly.
I enjoy that look greatly.
sti4thewin
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I'm going to be in Vancouver, Canada during the opening of guardians. Anyone know any good theateres for midnight showing ups there? Are midnight showings even a thing in Canada lol
Or Space Dandy
There's the CN IMAX Theater.
Father_Brain
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Hey, let's not go overboard here.
BlackNMild2k1
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It has a very "Star Wars"ey feel to it.
Grand Adventure in Space, different planets visited, alien races, advanced tech, special powers/weapons, Group dynamic, taking on the big conqueror who has an even bigger bad behind him.
This would actually be like Star Wars and it's expanded Universe, making it even better.
So I don't think I'm going overboard, I think I'm just ON board.
HYPE Train has pulled into the station and I already got my seat.
Father_Brain
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Those are just superficial similarities and general space-opera genre trappings, though. You compare it to Star Wars, you're making a pretty sweeping prediction about the kind of cultural influence it'll have a decade or two from now, and I don't think anyone can reasonably predict that.
PhoncipleBone
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We got in a bit of GOTG merch at work today. Was really tempted to get the POP! figure for Rocket. It is both adorable and badass at the same time.
Tricky I Shadow
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Calling it now....this will make between 700 million and 1 billion worldwide.
The reviews are gonna be glowing and word of mouth will be really strong.
IncandescentPrecept
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Don 't do this to yourself.
Tricky I Shadow
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LOL, don't do what exactly to myself? I've got a really good feeling that this is gonna be a massive hit.
The movie is going to do well regardless, so I won't really care if it doesn't end up making that much....
IncandescentPrecept
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I think it will be profitable but not enough for Marvel to take another risk like that.
PhoncipleBone
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$500m is a respectable target. Anything higher should be seen as a blessing. If it somehow manages to get near Cap's worldwide take, that will be insane.
$500M-600M WW with good word of mouth should be enough to satisfy Disney. You don't think it will hit that? If it's already tracking north of $60M in the USA, I don't think it will have a problem hitting that half billion milestone.
Not to mention the merchandise a franchise like this can potentially sell and the fact that it's the only true sci-fi franchise of the current MCU.
Father_Brain
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I completely agree. I just hope Disney's expectations are reasonable and that they wouldn't see $500m as a disappointment, given the relative obscurity of the IP to non-comics readers and the film's seemingly tenuous (at least, to those who don't know how much it plays into Thanos and the Infinity Stones meta-arc) connections to the rest of the MCU. And that TMNT opens only a week later.
BlackNMild2k1
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You are right about superficial similarities, but I think the MCU as a whole is the new "Star Wars" of this generation. only bigger and better.
Marvel Studios is a Movie Mint right now, and I don't see any chance of that being in danger till after A2 drops and Ant-man is up to bat.
IncandescentPrecept
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Will 500M-600M be enough? With a production budget of 170M, it will need approximately $500 to break even. But you're right about the merchandise. But I don't think that 's enough for them to take risks like this again. My guess is that, especially with the dwindling boxoffice results, they'll concentrate on popular characters only after Avengers 2.
TDLink
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It's an August release for a reason. They're keeping their expectations in check. Hitting $500m would be more than enough for at least a sequel.
PhoncipleBone
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While I want this movie to be awesome and be a huge success, even if doesn't make Marvel a bunch of money we can be happy that they took a chance on it and gave us some obscure characters and built a huge movie around them.
Who woulda thunk that a decade ago we would be getting a movie with Rocket Raccoon in it?
Who woulda thunk that a decade ago we would be getting a movie with Rocket Raccoon in it?
Ant-Man.
Not to mention that after AoU's run the MCU will be the most successful franchise both worldwide and domestic(it's already #1 domestically).
The only way I see Marvel second guessing how they go forward is a debacle like Green Lantern.
Father_Brain
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They're not going to scrap Ant-Man and Dr. Strange just because GotG underperformed. The more likely direct consequence would be that there won't be another cosmic MCU film sans proven Earth-based characters anytime soon, but rumors suggest that that may be the plan anyway.
Aren't the rumors that Avengers Age of Ultron ends with
Hulk getting launched into space, setting up his meeting the Guardians in a future film?
Father_Brain
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That's what I was alluding to, yeah. That the plan is already for any Guardians sequel to more directly cross over with the rest of the MCU.
TDLink
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I hope that rumour is bunk, because I hate that plan. So many great Guardians stories and characters to explore...if they just get caught up in Earth shit like the rest of the MCU/those characters it would be a real missed opportunity.
The fact that Feige has said in the past he wants Cosmic to be its own franchise and GotG to be like a new "Iron Man" leaves me hopeful though that the rumour won't come to pass.
Really don't like the rumor about
There's so much room for a GotG 2 in regards to characters and setting that could be integrated in, and I wouldn't want that wasted on what would essentially be a
I'd rather see an adaptation of Annihilation: Conquest if Marvel really wants to strengthen ties between their separate films.
Hulk going into space at the end of AoU to meet up with the GotG.
Planet Hulk movie guest starring the GotG.
I'd rather see an adaptation of Annihilation: Conquest if Marvel really wants to strengthen ties between their separate films.
PhoncipleBone
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Yup. If we can't get Annihilation because of rights issues, Conquest is the next best bet. Just have Ultron's AI somehow meet superior alien tech then go crazy from there.
BlackNMild2k1
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According to BoxOfficeGAF, $170M Production budget only needs about $340M BO to break even. Let's pad it generously by saying $400M to break even, and then $500M BO is plenty of profit to build off of when looking at how IM, Thor & Cap have all increased from start to sequel (& sequel again in IM's case.)
If the scale continues on to the sequel with another Avengers Bump, then GotG 2 is all but guaranteed to hit north of $800M with a real chance at $1B.
....oh God I didn't even realize that. Of course they can do that story. I've been thinking that without Annihlius or Galactus those stories were kind of kaput.
PhoncipleBone
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No Annihilus. No Galactus. No Silver Surfer. No Super Skrull.
Conquest, on the other hand, would be pretty open. And still epic.
BlackNMild2k1
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PhoncipleBone
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jackissocool
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Not reading this spoiler is making my brain fucking explode. I neeeeeed to know. But I really shouldn't.
Its a bunch of rumors that might not even be true about Marvel Phase 3 and what it would mean for a GotG sequel. The reason I spoiled it is because the rumors state it ties into the plot of Avengers 2. Better safe than sorry with this stuff.
TDLink
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Yes you can. Make Nova the main protagonist like he already was. Have the Guardians play the roles they did, with expanded use for the ones who weren't there. Have Thanos using a weapon other than galactus. Have a galaxy threatening villain other than Annihilus that does the same thing. Remove the skrull and heralds part. It would be very modified but all of the mcu films adapting specific stories have anyways. It would still work. It's a perfect Nova origin story and could also function as a GotG sequel
Or, assuming GotG is a hit, make the Annihilation adaptation a separate Nova origin movie that brings Richard Rider into the MCU. Skip the teenage years & jump right into the good stuff.
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