Clay Davis
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thank you. that sounds and looks very reasonable. fears assuaged.
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Halo 4 - Media blow out
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thank you. that sounds and looks very reasonable. fears assuaged.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Wtf, that looks awful, and really invasive. I don't want to have to play through that/ or those kind of mini game scenarios on replays.
Doesn't even look exciting or fun for the first time.
Even if it only lasts 5 minutes, its going to be pretty tiresome playing some weird mini game on replays of that mission.
Vire
Member
Seems like a tiny bit of an overreaction no?
It's not like this kind of thing is interwoven into the actual gunplay. For instance, Resident Evil has those silly button prompts if a zombie latches onto you and you have to waggle the analog to break free. This is separate from the gunplay and it won't interfere with the actual shooting.
Secondly, it also gives the impression that Master Chief is a super soldier spartan and is capable of much more than simply shooting people. (Something previous games failed to capture). If spartans are supposed to be this genetically modified badass, well then show it.
I kinda like these small vignettes as long as they are kept to a minimum and don't result in weird prompts onscreen to perform an action.
So many things wrong with this post.
And I like how you kinda ignored the accidental flag pick up scenario.
Monocle
Member
It's the fact of limited interactivity that bothers me; how Halo's sandbox gameplay, with all the possibilities for progressing in new and interesting ways, is suspended. Unavoidably stalled. Whether or not these are more properly called on-rails sequences instead of QTEs, their result is identical: as a player I'm forced to complete a very restricted series of actions at fixed points in the game. The cruelest part is that they don't even tell the story better than ordinary cinematics. Master Chief's power could be conveyed equally well by scenes that look the same but can be instantly skipped.
Take a mental trip through Halo 1. Notice that even its most limited areas, the final Warthog run and the most structured level, The Library, leave you the player in full control. Sure, your objective is very specific, but you're free to do whatever you want within the confines of the playable space. This is where Halo fundamentally differs from other modern shooters, even its own sequels. To the extent that Halo 4 employs on-rails sequences or QTEs or anything else of the sort, it undermines the freedom that sets Halo apart from everything else.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
And thats the problem. Thats exactly the problem i stated before and i saw this coming without even playing the game.
Most people will get there and not touch the flag because of the fact that they wont wanna lose being able to use the main weapon they are carrying. So theyll be there and wait....wait some more....until someone gets there that actually does grab it.
This is about as useful to the gameplay as armor-lock was. All this will do is slow down the game because of a bunch of people who wont wanna grab it. Very stupid move that i fully expect to be fixed within the first patch. If not sooner.
Edit: In COD, an auto-flag pickup with no drops works cause you dont lose the ability to use your main guns. Thats the only reason it works there. Here, it wont work. No one wants to lose the ability to use a BR for example for a forced magnum that u cant change. No one.
I like the fact that a magnum appears when u grab the flag, Its cool, but let me automatically drop the flag on a weapon switch like that i can better defend myself. Its a very simple fix.
We already had this:
But now we'll have to watch him struggle to open doors like every other videogameman. Progress?
Vire
Member
We already had this:
But now we'll have to watch him struggle to open doors like every other videogameman. Progress?
Funny, I just replayed that the other day and I thought to myself how cool it would have been if there was a sequence similar to this from Dead Space 2.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Im not opposed to the "QTE like but not QTE sections" of the game as long as they play well and aren't death traps. Like other have said, if you can't fail them but can only perform them better then its all good. I like stuff like that when used appropriately.. it can really give you an immersive, badass feeling.
Ein Soph Aur
Member
Those are my thoughts as well.
If they can add to the experience rather than detract from it, I see nothing wrong with that.
Muffdraul
Member
If Halo 4 were a Bungie game, Joe Staten would've called them "Interactive Perspectives."
higherARC05
Banned
Ya just noticed how in every detail it's actual geometry. All the pipes on the ceiling and ground and walls are actual rendered pipes but the crazy thing is they're the most rounded pipes I've seen in a game. They got way more poly pushing power then previous games. So good.
I don't know if anything else can look better on this console.
les papillons sexuels
Banned
bungie makes a space dogfighting minigame, expanding the halo sandbox into space combat, 343 adds QTE's.
Vire
Member
Where are these QTE's you are talking about? Cause I don't see any.
Secondly, there is a Mech portion in the single player which I'm certain will scratch the same itch as the Sabre in Reach.
(I didn't like the Sabre on repeat playthroughs though). Long Night of Solace is still my favorite level.
LOL!!Ya just noticed how in every detail it's actual geometry. All the pipes on the ceiling and ground and walls are actual rendered pipes but the crazy thing is they're the most rounded pipes I've seen in a game. They got way more poly pushing power then previous games. So good.
I don't know if anything else can look better on this console.
higherARC05
Banned
LOL!!
Its so true. I get annoyed at how many games have sharp pointy pipes that stand out like sore thumbs.
The game looks amazing I may get an Xbox by then haven't played a Halo since 3.
killertofu
Member
Does anyone get Doom 3 vibes from the graphics?
dragonelite
Member
Same Art director.
Yes, save dem pipes ain't deformable at specific checkpoints, brah.
Like Elite said, same art director. Somethings are bound to bleed.
higherARC05
Banned
Doom 3 + Metroid + Halo ?
Boner erouse
Demoncarnotaur
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NullPointer
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Poimandres
Member
Doom 3 art director? Hell yeah, that's awesome.
They assembled one heck of a dream team for 343i. It's almost a shame that they will be stuck forever making Halo games, because I'd love to see this team tackle their own IP.
They assembled one heck of a dream team for 343i. It's almost a shame that they will be stuck forever making Halo games, because I'd love to see this team tackle their own IP.
dragonelite
Member
Damn.
TUROK
Member
Doesn't seem that way to me. Reach was no slouch in that department.
The hyperbole is getting ridiculous.
soulassssns
Banned
dragonelite
Member
Also awesome concept artist like sparth.
Me as a artistic cavemen even find his work awesome.
For the most part the Art work and models are of a higher quality then bungies work on reach. And probably because 80% of the engine was done so artist could start working on art iterations from the start probably 343 has a lot of experienced people so they already know a thing or two. Im not saying this is out of reach for bungie given the extra 2 years of time they could reach this level also people underestimate bungies know how. And Destiny should be something to look out for a technical person. Bungie has presented a lot of papers on their tech.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
I agree that the character modeling and guns, etc look on par with what was in Reach (Humans aside, and even then Rech still looked good) but overall the game is looking a lot better with more details and better art direction in all the right places.
NullPointer
Member
Look at the rocks and jagged mountainy bits in Halo 4 campaign videos. Remind me of the smooth glistening environments in Hades.
Monocle
Member
Well what else do you expect them to wear when they're on vacation? It's not every day you get a sabbatical during a galactic war.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Did you actually click that link?
That's like saying "+ the collision detection of God of War 3".
Ya just noticed how in every detail it's actual geometry. All the pipes on the ceiling and ground and walls are actual rendered pipes but the crazy thing is they're the most rounded pipes I've seen in a game. They got way more poly pushing power then previous games. So good.
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I don't know if anything else can look better on this console.[/QUOTE]
Man, Doom 3 would blow your freakin' mind. It had SO MANY PIPES! Big pipes! Small pipes! Bent pipes! Fleshy pipes! It had pipes for days!
Mr. Scott really likes his pipes. There's a reason everyone calls him Piper. [spoiler]No one calls him Piper[/spoiler]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZYxno.jpg
Yeah, but he must have learned a thing or two during production of that game. That knowlage being brought into Halo 4 would not be too suprising.
Sure, but using his resume to explain some accidental visual similarity is a bit silly.
Ya just noticed how in every detail it's actual geometry. All the pipes on the ceiling and ground and walls are actual rendered pipes but the crazy thing is they're the most rounded pipes I've seen in a game. They got way more poly pushing power then previous games. So good.
I don't know if anything else can look better on this console.
Looks like circumference is about 20 polys... Still not perfect
higherARC05
Banned
Yeah Reach was impressive in that department but nothing looked as good as the environments shown poly wise.
TUROK
Member
Oh shit, man. You're right. Halo 4 grafficks da bess.