What exactly is pathetic about the fact someone noticed the guys gamertag?
You want pathetic? It's posting the main menu of an unreleased work in progress game for 5 minutes of Internet fame - because let's be real, that's all this is for.
What is wrong with u?The Gamertag of the leaker is Dutchy XxX when you stop at the right time. Just to let the right people know.
I daresay a number of users on here are part of companies that test these games, so this might be threatening their jobs.
Or tell them on closed channels. Why put it out in the open like this, what does it accomplish? Maybe they wanted some of that internet fame too, for catching a criminal in the act!
Sigh.
I daresay a number of users on here are part of companies that test these games, so this might be threatening their jobs.
This is almost a MEGATON in of itself imo.The leak itself is overshadowing it but I dont care - volume options in Halo, feels good man.
You must be new to how video game leaks work. But keep believing that. I'm sure it'll ring true in never.
One is fairly interesting.
One is fairly boring and some hardcore high horsing whilst we're at it. Nobody gives a shit, let the appropriate people find the GT. I'm sure MS don't need tattlers on gaming forums to do their job for them.
And also, do you guys think gaming companies are muppets or something? It's very difficult to keep NDA's airtight nowadays - very difficult. Shit happens, this is nothing negative, nobodies going to lose jobs or sleep over this, its a little blip. I'm half imaging an alarm going off at redmond as somebody realises oh shit somebody posted the halo 5 menu of gaf brrrp brrp brrp evacuate all stations.
Christ.
"What do you do for work?"Thinking about it, with these sorts of people running around tattling for free, the testing company can downsize to two people: one to check GAF and one to check Reddit.
Well done, Taker34, you've just cost, like, 50 people their jobs.
Nobody has implied that any jobs or sleep will be lost over this. I'm sure we're all aware that leaking the (non-final) menu of a game isn't a huge issue. Come on.
That's wrong, it doesn't matter what it was. It makes the entire program they are a part of more risky and less trustworthy for developers to utilize, and jeapordizes contracts with existing testers who follow the agreements they've signed.
You must have been looking at something else. This looks amazing.Ah, yes. Yet another incomprehensible menu layout.
When an outsourced testing company is dealing with Microsoft's biggest IP, I think it's fair to say that leaks are probably "Serious Business" for quite a few people.
Okay so now we're calling people in this thread corporate apologists?...at Microsoft. Not gaf. Then again with all the corporate apologists and people that love brands as if they were family here we shouldn't really be surprised.
If people leak stuff (assuming this is legit of course), it makes it less likely there will be private beta tests and so on in the future. Just frustrating all around even if the stuff leaked is not gameplay.
If people leak stuff (assuming this is legit of course), it makes it less likely there will be private beta tests and so on in the future. Just frustrating all around even if the stuff leaked is not gameplay.
Tell that to the responsible QA facility that now has to deal with Microsoft and could lose a very high-profile client because one of their testers wanted to have some 2 minute long e-fame. Stuff like this has very real consequences for very real people.
I don't know if that's what happened in this specific case but these "LOL Serious Buzinezz" -reactions to everything surounding video games are completely oblivious to all the people earning their money and spending most of their time every day in this industry.
alexbull_uk said:When an outsourced testing company is dealing with Microsoft's biggest IP, I think it's fair to say that leaks are probably "Serious Business" for quite a few people.
Than that outsourced company should care. The vast majority of neogaf doesn't have a vested interest in the game. Those that do should have proper channels to report leaks and not resort trying to shame them infront of a group of interest strangers. Just like your insurance company or police should care if you speed. People who buy and enjoy video games shouldn't care if someone leaks information.
I'd say the person trying to call our the leaker is more desperate for attention than the person actually leaking.
Actially its about ethics in Leaks and NDAs.
Shocking that so many here are completely missing the point. It doesn't matter that it was just a menu. It's the principle. Y'all would get mad when a friend swears to keep your secret and then starts divulging details. For MS, real money is involved. It's an innocuous leak now, sure, but one bad impression can be damaging, and for a company that got torn apart back in 2013 and are still struggling to recover their reputation, it's no small wonder they'll be extra vigilant now.
Also, the people leaking footage are jeopardising sources of income for others, namely the companies that are contracted (who aren't exactly rolling around in money) and the other testser. What these type leakers are doing is selfish and dumb.
You might want to at least try reading a couple of previous posts by people who know why I'm doing this. There's a very good reason for this and explaining that to you would be an NDA breach itself.
There you go: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=174781332
Than MS should care. It isn't other people's responsibility to protect Microsoft's stock price.
You think these testers are paid a living wage? The company uses them as cheap labor and pays them with early access to games part of the risk of that is people leaking information. If the company thinks that is a risk to their business they should hire a professional workforce.
Not sure what's considered a living wage, but testers for this company are paid minimum wage.
People aren't exactly defending the guy. They're just mentioning the guy pointing out the leaker's gamertag "to let the right people know".Stop defending people that break NDA, it hurts more than the individual
So not a living wage, then.
Good to know I'd be getting paid the same testing games as I would working at McDonald's.
...Actually that's pretty depressing.
EDIT: Elaborate on one thing. Federal minimum wage or the minimum wage of whatever state you're in?
Gotta love the irony huh?Funny to see the forum that sheltered Cboat and asked for infos from him and ntkrnl torn on the question to out a leaker
The only reason I play test is to play some games before they are released. Some of the play testing sessions are pretty broken and some are actually playable.
The money is just an extra bonus for me.
Oh definitely, I understand where you're coming from. Just feel like testers should still get paid a little bit more than minimum wage, but I suppose further discussion about wages and stuff is OT so I'll just let it go at that.
Than MS should care. It isn't other people's responsibility to protect Microsoft's stock price.
You think these testers are paid a living wage? The company uses them as cheap labor and pays them with early access to games part of the risk of that is people leaking information. If the company thinks that is a risk to their business they should hire a professional workforce.
Funny to see the forum that sheltered Cboat and asked for infos from him and ntkrnl torn on the question to out a leaker
The Gamertag of the leaker is Dutchy XxX when you stop at the right time. Just to let the right people know.
The only thing worse than the scumbags who break the rules are the scumbags who rat them out.
You're right. What was I thinking? Who knows how many people this deviant has harmed by showing a video game menu on the internet.Come join us in the real world why don't you?
You're missing the point; I meant to illustrate the importance of even a little thing like this leaking. MS obviously does care, and there will be consequences for the parties involved - consequences that will not necessarily be focused squarely on the people responsible.
Gaming testing doesn't pay a living wage, no, not unless you log dozens of sessions a week, but they may be valuable incomes to people for who every little bit can help. And if it isn't, you don't think it's a dick move to jeopardise other people's jobs for a little e-fame? We're not talking about outing a scandalous anti-consumer policy, we're talking about some dick that couldn't keep a simple promise he was being paid to keep and in the act of breaking it might ruin something other people enjoyed doing and/or depended on for income.