CrocMother
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If it's impossible to show causality I guess there's no problem then! Phew what a load off the mind.
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I've been drinking 1 liter of diet cream soda per day
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If it's impossible to show causality I guess there's no problem then! Phew what a load off the mind.
It is entirely possible to show causality. That requires a double blind experiment on a large enough sample of the population.
GameAddict411
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Just cut off soda altogether and find something else to drink. That's what I did and I have been really happy. I lost over 25 pounds in less than three months by cutting on calories and taking an hour long walk everyday.
Yeah maybe Fox News was right and those violent video games found in the mass murderer's room was the catalyst behind the event, fuck causation and Jack Thompson was right all along
Careful with your margarine intake if you're a Maine Newlywed
BronsonLee
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I feel like I'm being very aggressively astroturfed by Pepsi right now
The Gravitational Pull of Pepsi is just too strong
The Gravitational Pull of Pepsi is just too strong
99% of all murderer eat bread regularly. Bread makes you evil confirmed.
gutter_trash
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artificial sweetners mess with your brain because you think you ate sugar but you didn't, then your brain gets mad "you fooled me!!!! I want SUGAR!!!!""" then it pushes you to crave sweets
Didn't read the thread, but heavy diet soda drinker here. The only confirmed major negative impact is a slight increase in kidney failure when you get older. I gave up soda for a month after reading that, but then went back to it. I figure the chances they'll have a fix for kidney failure by the time I reach 60 are much greater than then increased risk diet soda carries. When you factor in quality of life diet soda wins hands down for me.
I remain open to further studies on gut bacteria. We'll see where that research goes.
Decreased Tooth enamel and kidney stones are other potential negative impacts, but both vary based on genetics and can be mitigated.
I remain open to further studies on gut bacteria. We'll see where that research goes.
Decreased Tooth enamel and kidney stones are other potential negative impacts, but both vary based on genetics and can be mitigated.
ZackieChan
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That's not what the "diet soda is unhealthy" people are claiming is the problem, though. In fact, they're just claiming a blanket "it's bad for you," which isn't very helpful at all.
Just because there aren't "benefits" doesn't mean they're necessarily bad. But others have pointed that out already.
And for the correlation studies above, I'm going to guess that most likely, those who have switched to diet soda are doing it to offset other unhealthy behaviors or irresistible cravings, thus the correlation with bad health, but not necessarily caused by diet soda.
Extra Sauce
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Drink some goddamn water once in awhile.
Some people are allergic to water.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
That mechanism hasn't been proven in humans.
way more
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He was trolling. At least I think. I hope this makes it clear how hard my job is.
Hey, thanks for not reading my post before picking it out! I reading comprehension good!
Beer Monkey
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I'm almost fifty and have been drinking several cans of soda a day since I was about five (diet for the last 25 years).
Never had a kidney stone. Just had my bloodwork done (I get a physical annually) and as always my glucose levels were in the healthy range.
SMH at this thread. Coffee is a known carcinogen and people are freaking out about Aspartame despite decades of studies trying to show it as carcinogenic and failing.
Oh, check out A&W 10. Delicious creamy root beer with 10 calories a can. Fuck yes.
EDIT: My teeth are good. Yes, after drinking diet soda several times a day for 25 years.
Never had a kidney stone. Just had my bloodwork done (I get a physical annually) and as always my glucose levels were in the healthy range.
SMH at this thread. Coffee is a known carcinogen and people are freaking out about Aspartame despite decades of studies trying to show it as carcinogenic and failing.
Oh, check out A&W 10. Delicious creamy root beer with 10 calories a can. Fuck yes.
EDIT: My teeth are good. Yes, after drinking diet soda several times a day for 25 years.
way more
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98.5% of people who regularly drink water have died.
Aspartame has been researched and tested to death, mainly because of the claim that it gives you cancer and whatever. It's been pretty much shown to be safe through all of that.
Would I consume a large amount of it? No. I don't know how harmless it is in the quantities the OP and some others take it in.
Some people are quite adamant about the safety or dangers of consuming any foods. I'm just here to suggest that the OP's other lifestyle habits should be taken into consideration when giving any such advice, and that it's always a good idea to consume less processed foods and more real foods.
rokkerkory
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Long term yes it will
ZackieChan
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You made an assertion in there with nothing to back it up. If the non-water portions of diet soda are unhealthy as you claim...why?
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Because as I said in the following paragraph, it's likely the OP also has bad lifestyle habits all round and drinking rivers of diet soda is part of a bigger problem. OP very likely lacks self control when it comes to diet.
You can argue all you want about correlation and causation but what it does show is that people who are addicted to soda are more likely to lead unhealthy lifestyles. Tackling the self control aspect can help them become healthier.
And as I said, it's always better to eat less processed foods. All you seem to be interested in is the whole "diet soda is completely safe, drink it by the gallon and fuck the haters" aspect. It's like you guys see the world in binary extremes and you gotta pick a side, with no room for moderation somewhere in the middle.
Your body is constantly replacing its cells. It uses the food you take in to do so. Do you really want the building blocks of your entire body to be junk food and artificial sweeteners? You keep this up and one day it will be too late. Drink water ffs. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if junk food makes you age faster too.
Aspartame causing prion diseases? This is a new one to me.
You do understand that you are using a sample size of one, right? The way to see if it makes a difference is to study lots of people at once, not just get a quote from one guy. There are also heavy smokers who have never had any perceived issues and they sound very similar to the post above.
I'm saying this as someone who understands that diet soda isn't that bad for you (teeth aside, and possibly giving you a stronger sweet tooth), but I base that belief on the mountain of evidence, not my personal experience.
GhostWriter24
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It wont kill you, but your gas will be fucking gross. Seriously, aspartame wreaks havok on your stomach with all that sugar alcohol...
ZackieChan
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All I'm asking for is a reason why it is bad, which you've failed to give.
I'm sure that the drinking of diet soda is due to the existing unhealthy habits, not the other way around. Those bad habits should be fixed, but diet soda isn't the culprit. It is literally the avoidance of another bad habit, drinking regular soda.
Ingueferroque
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It's like switching to e-cigarettes from regular cigarettes, if you ask me. Both are not good for you.
Langdon Alger
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But that study was done on saccharine, which is almost never used anymore. This Slate article points out the many flaws in these sweetness/reward processing studies.
http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...id_america_get_fat_by_drinking_diet_soda.html
CrocMother
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Honestly the reason I'm so upset by this is that my mom was a diet soda addict for many years. She had weight problems chronically. We finally got her to kick the habit and the weight just fell off her without any other changes in her diet.
I refuse to believe that shit isn't bad for you.
ZackieChan
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Round and round we go
BronsonLee
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It's almost like this is a stupid argument in the first place. This shit should've been deaaaaad ages ago
ZackieChan
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He literally quoted a post where I asked why it was bad, and said essentially "because it's bad for you."
JetBlackPanda
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Sorry if it's been mentioned but what brand of cream soda?
my son was diagnosed with autism a few months after his vaccinations
we didn't vaccinate our next child and he's autism free
I refuse to believe that shit isnt bad for you
Beer Monkey
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Welcome to confirmation bias.
Beer Monkey
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I completely understand that. I'm all about metastudies, the furthest evidence from anecdote.
But several people in the thread have told OP that he WILL have long term problems with stuff like kidney stones and diabetes in the long term. And those absolutes are bunk and not backed by meta-analysis of peer reviewed studies. So those "facts", are not. If these so-called facts are true, I would have these problems.
Presumably you and your wife were vaccinated and did not get autism, yes?
that's beside the point, what I see with my own two eyes>fancypants paid scientists and their 'data' 'proving' autism isn't related to vaccinations
92% of children here in Finland get all the vaccines and I don't think I've ever met an autistic person in my life. If what you say is true, you'd expect to see an autism epidemic. What I see with my own eyes > Your confirmation bias.
Before this derails the thread, this argument was made in bad faith to point out another poster's argument about diet soda and his aunt losing weight after dropping it
-is what I WOULD say if I didn't know in my HEART and SEEN with my own two eyes that Vaccines gave my child autism
Study it out if you don't believe me, it's not my job to educate you
It's not your job to educate me, but it is expected in normal discussion that you back up your arguments with reason and evidence. What you "know in your heart" isn't worth shit, especially when you're spreading a idea that kills children through preventable illnesses.
Barack Lesnar
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I would just like to say my final decision. I've read the thread and done thinking on this. I knew when i made the thread that the first page would be filled with mostly dismissive one liners with no thought or backing behind them....basically shit posts ala "It's bad for you." "No." "Diet soda is terrible for you, stop" and so forth. I'd like to thank the posters that provided real info and discussion, the people who use critical thinking and think outside the box. You're the ones who make Gaf a good forum. It got just a tad more heated than i anticipated making what i anticipated to be a fail thread but it turned out to be a good conversation.
I'm gonna stick with my diet cream soda which btw DOES NOT have caffeine in it so no worries about kidney stones. The only bad thing about it is tooth enamel but im careful drinking it now because i use a straw and always rinse my mouth with water right after. I'll continue to drink about a liter or 3/4 a liter per day for the rest of my life as long as i can find it. To the guy who asked, it's a store brand from a grocery chain.
While you haters are stuck drinking plain old boring tasteless water every day ill be drinking nectar from the gods without any downside at all. So fuck yeah, diet cream soda all day every day. Suck it!
I'm gonna stick with my diet cream soda which btw DOES NOT have caffeine in it so no worries about kidney stones. The only bad thing about it is tooth enamel but im careful drinking it now because i use a straw and always rinse my mouth with water right after. I'll continue to drink about a liter or 3/4 a liter per day for the rest of my life as long as i can find it. To the guy who asked, it's a store brand from a grocery chain.
While you haters are stuck drinking plain old boring tasteless water every day ill be drinking nectar from the gods without any downside at all. So fuck yeah, diet cream soda all day every day. Suck it!
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