It has not been 'well documented to give you cancer'. At normal doses it has no impact. It is perfectly healthy. It may mess up your relationship with sweet tastes, and the acidity of diet soda will destroy your teeth, but those are different.
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I've been drinking 1 liter of diet cream soda per day
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It has not been 'well documented to give you cancer'. At normal doses it has no impact. It is perfectly healthy. It may mess up your relationship with sweet tastes, and the acidity of diet soda will destroy your teeth, but those are different.
What? No it hasn't. Almost the complete opposite.
But still, SMH at people who insist that drinking that much soda a day is fine because it's "99% water" or whatever.
Yes, your health depends on a lot of different lifestyle factors, and for some people it may be OK if they're active and eating healthy. But it seems to indicate a lack of self control and hence the OP's (and others') habits are called into question.
In use, correct. That's exactly my point. The money the soda industry has spent to convince the masses that soda is an essential product that should be consumed at all times has clearly had an effect. The fact that you don't see that those two products are more or less the same thing is proof of how effective they have been.
BriareosGAF
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Is it a liter a day of Virgil's Cream Soda? No? Then yes, it will irreparably harm your ability to reproduce because diet cream soda is hideously tacky.
But damn is Virgil's good.
But damn is Virgil's good.
poppabk
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Diet soda is flavored carbonated water. People drink every day and multiple times a day. People do not eat cake multiple times a day every day of their lives. Trying to equate soda with cake is ridiculous.
Dreadnought
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Oh my god are there seriously people trying to argue that regular and diet soda is healthy. Jesus people just stick to water.
ShooterMcGavin
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Receipts are needed for this one.
ZackieChan
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Hey, here's two more. Source please? Why is it unhealthy? No one seems to show that beyond "it just is" or "it's soda!"
Low ph absolutely shreds your teeth over time
i mean, i know the whole point of this is to have people discuss, but why not ask someone who you personally know in the profession? Like a family doctor or a nutritionist. All the information is out there, go read actual medical journals or trace every step back from what each ingredient in that dosage would do to your body every step of the way. It basically seems like you're trying to find an excuse to keep drinking it and don't really want to hear that it's bad for you or good for you.
So does orange juice. Is orange juice now "unhealthy" and "bad"?
BronsonLee
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So are we really going hard on debating the health benefits of soda here
I just want to make sure we are before I go dunk my head in a volcano
BrassMonkey1010
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Well, actually it is. It's basically just sugar water.
Orange juice, pretty much any juice, isn't good for you.
How do people not know this?
Everything in moderation is the key. A litre of soft drink or juice in a day is not moderation
Yes. It is extremely high in sugar and not all that amazing nutritionally. A tiny glass once a week? Sure. A big glass daily? Terrible for you.
CrocMother
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"I drink two liters of soda a day and I'm fine so there's nothing wrong with it" is similar to "I've smoked a pack a day for 30 years and I'm fine so there's nothing wrong with it"
The precautionary principle applies here. The onus is on the other side to prove that it isn't harmful.
The precautionary principle applies here. The onus is on the other side to prove that it isn't harmful.
Razorback
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GreatestHits
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Simply amazed at the diet soda defense force. Also amazed that people believe in the competency of our scientific research enough to ingest chemicals like aspartame. Don't forget, we used to say cigarettes totally doesn't cause cancer not too long ago
Blueboys1306
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Hi all. Just new here and really enjoy it!
Anyway, I was fairly recently diagnosed type 2 diabetic. I was about 30 kgs overweight. I was told to drink water and change my diet. Long story short, in the 3 years since my diagnosis I've kept my weight down by keeping a healthy eating diet and I've totally cut out soft drinks. They're just full of sugar and they can ruin your internals. They're a definite no-no when it comes to a healthier and longer life.
Anyway, I was fairly recently diagnosed type 2 diabetic. I was about 30 kgs overweight. I was told to drink water and change my diet. Long story short, in the 3 years since my diagnosis I've kept my weight down by keeping a healthy eating diet and I've totally cut out soft drinks. They're just full of sugar and they can ruin your internals. They're a definite no-no when it comes to a healthier and longer life.
Razorback
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So we can't trust the consensus of the scientific community?
Who can we trust then? Wait... Oh no.
OP seems a touch much, maybe try 3/4 a liter a day for a week.
Fake sugar fucks with my head/stomach and it's awful.
Fake sugar fucks with my head/stomach and it's awful.
Fuck juice.
CrocMother
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What studies show it isn't harmful?
30 seconds on Google scholar pointed to articles showing clear correlation with diet soda and health issues
Razorback
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Read the rest of the thread. We've been through this already.
It really isn't and thinking otherwise is part of the reason obesity has become an epidemic.
CrocMother
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Although these observational data cannot establish causality, consumption of diet soda at least daily was associated with significantly greater risks of select incident metabolic syndrome components and type 2 diabetes.
These findings suggest that there are alterations in reward processing of sweet taste in individuals who regularly consume diet soda, and this is associated with the degree of consumption.
I drink Coke Zero because it would be way harder to lose weight if I didn't. If something is delicious, filling, and has very few calories, I'm going to drink it. I don't like the fact that I'm drinking too much soda, but it's better then being fat.
The amount of research on aspartame has been pretty thorough. At normal doses it doesn't cause cancer. Why are you so focused on aspartame and not on one of the other thousands of relatively unstudied chemicals that may or may not cause cancer?
I'm not saying that diet soda is healthy, but this aspartame thing reminds me of the anti-vaxxer movement.
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It's no wonder considering it contains just as much if not more sugar.
Might as well just stick with the soda if that makes you happier.
Anti-vaxxers can be dangerous to society, whereas a bit of sweetener fearmongering isn't going to do much of anything, so I don't think that's a very fair comparison.
Razorback
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CrocMother
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I directly source peer-reviewed journals and you post this garbage?
None of this is reliable.
Razorback
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BronsonLee
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Why did you immediately dismiss his studies? You guys are essentially accusing each other of the same thing.
Everyone should just use my opinion, it's the best compromise possible.
Yoohoo is the healthiest drink out there.
CrocMother
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I'm fairly certain that Examine.com site you posted is a propaganda site for Food Industry.
GreatestHits
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Its funny you say that because I was going to research them on possibly being exactly that but decided I'm not really going to waste any more time in this thread.
Gaf is pretty "anti-conspiracy", but usually if you're Googling for research that has anything to do with an industry that has a lot of money behind it, you probably aren't getting reliable data. Flame away
Scarecrow
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Exactly. People should drink soda about as often as they eat cake.
I switched to water some years ago and haven't regretted it at all. I drink maybe one can of coke zero a month.
Razorback
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And the other links, what's wrong with them?
CrocMother
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A blog, a podcast and a youtube video. These aren't reputable sources.
You claimed that studies show that diet soda isn't bad for you. At best you've shown that just because research overwhelmingly finds a correlation doesn't mean that there is certainly a causation. That's a far reach from your original claim.
BronsonLee
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Isn't the guy who runs Skeptoid in jail for fraud or some shit, I remember reading about that
Razorback
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The blog, the podcast, and the youtube video all cite their sources. Are you suggesting they are lying?
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.long
There's a high correlation between watching QVC and being a middle aged housewife, but that doesn't mean I'll suddenly gain kids and become a stay at home spouse if I start watching it
There's a high correlation between buying those placebo weight loss pills at GMC and being overweight, that doesn't mean taking the pills will make me obese
There's a high correlation between marriage counseling and divorcing shortly after, that doesn't mean going to counseling will ruin a perfectly fine marriage
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There's a high correlation between watching QVC and being a middle aged housewife, but that doesn't mean I'll suddenly gain kids and become a stay at home spouse if I start watching it
There's a high correlation between buying those placebo weight loss pills at GMC and being overweight, that doesn't mean taking the pills will make me obese
There's a high correlation between marriage counseling and divorcing shortly after, that doesn't mean going to counseling will ruin a perfectly fine marriage
BronsonLee
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Yeah, that's how studies work
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