Yes, but allowing faster than handheld regime with a fan is a simple Nintendo way of doing things.
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Nintendo NX rumored to use Nvidia's Pascal GPU architecture
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Yes, but allowing faster than handheld regime with a fan is a simple Nintendo way of doing things.
I guess as long as two sets of assets aren't required for different resolutions then I guess this would be fine.
Although, the SCD wouldn't really be needed for a performance boost would it? (Unless we're assuming it would be needed for games to look as good as on current gen consoles.)
GhostTrick
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I never argued SNES had better specs wtf. I argued GBA had snes quality visual and you were arguing GBA had PSX/Saturn quality visuals.
As for the rest, yes A15 was a best case scenario, which is basically Tegra K1 CPU btw. Wii U isn't the metric I use. In it's history, Nintendo always used cheaper tech especially in handheld. Look at Gameboy, Gameboy advance, NDS or even 3DS.
Nintendo merged their hardware division and Genyo Takeda isn't the manager of it, so can we be certain that things are just going to stay the same as the last 30 years?
What if scenario the NX dock is a basic dock with the controller that'd gonna be sold at a base price. Nvidia providing the x1 at slim to no margin but the doc will be what Nvidia makes money on in the form of GPU switch in and out for the enthusiast who want the better graphics. I'm starting to think the dock is like a barebone pc now since the seeing the patent.
Thanks, been following all these NX threads and first time hearing of this. Saw the SCD patent but I guess missed this part. Not sure how since it sounds pretty intreating.
Hard time beleiving Nintendo will actual use it though.
A15 obviously wasn't a best case scenario if we are getting something more powerful, you were letting your emotions dictate your speculations, and that means your reasoning is your own and can't really be argued against.
3DS has glasses-less 3D, NX is a hybrid if you are following the rumors that this thread is a part of, and that means that it is clearly not just a handheld device. In terms of consoles, we have heard from I think it was LCGeek that this reminded them of N64 and Gamecube Nintendo rather than the last 2, and both of those were high tech machines for their time.
The fun part is, if you evaluate the strategies of (a) looking at what is technically achievable and (b) "lol nintendo"ing your way to conclusions on the last 3 hardware platforms released by Nintendo, then (b) seems at least as successful, if not more so, than (a).
Neither are successful sadly, one is just being disappointed before the reveal and the other is being excited for the possibilities before the reveal and disappointed later.
mocolostrocolos
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Hey 10K, I'm still waiting for the nudes.
That doesn't make you any less of a killjoy.
Also, using anything newer than a Tegra K1 would already be going against their history with handhelds. You're also looking at it strictly as a handheld from a hardware design point of view, meaning that you believe Nintendo has decided to give all of their console fans the finger. I'm not gonna argue with you again, but you really have crossed the line between realism and pessimism, even if you don't realize it.Somebody gets it. This whole "low expectations to avoid being disappointed later" thing has always been complete and utter bullshit. You're just sad and you want other people to be sad with you if you think that way.
It doesn't matter if they're not targeting the same market, The media space is the same. First gets a lot of attention, the second needs to wait for the cool-down of the first to have a full impact. Of course you can do it also in parallel, but it wouldn't get the maximum coverage.
Plinko
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No, the article itself said to take this with a grain of salt. (Even though they claimed they had a source which is weird.)
They are claiming that the NX is using a stock X2 (I mean Parker) rather than a customised Pascal-based Tegra. Better to wait for Hot Chips at this point.
Edit: Reasons for thinking it is customised is how Thraktor compared the Denver cores to other A53/A72 and it wasn't as favourable.
I don't think they're reliable. I'm expecting that later today someone will make a thread and it will be locked.
Either way, we have 3 sources claiming Pascal and 2
if Digitimes even counts
I think that still means "based on Pascal Tegra, which is more powerful than X1", rather than "Nintendo is straight up using X2". The "source" could easily be natedrake's contact though, as in, they don't have any and just ran this story lol
Digitimes doesn't count. What's the other source claiming X1?
Eurogamer lol. I was actually originally going to type "1.25" with Digitimes being the ".25"
blu
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Does it really matter?
An article like that should be either about (a) new news, or (b) sound confirmation of old leaks. This article does none of that.
People are getting to caught up with raw specs versus real world needed performance for this device as a portable/hybrid. Just because there's a discussion going on about the NX running XbOne or PS4 level games on the go, doesn't mean they suddenly expect it to be on par hardware wise with those systems!
We completely understand that it's not feasible battery wise or form factor wise (probably for Nintendo) to expect this thing to pump out 600gflops-1tflop as in portable mode. But it won't need that level of power to match the current systems visuals on a much smaller screen.
We completely understand that it's not feasible battery wise or form factor wise (probably for Nintendo) to expect this thing to pump out 600gflops-1tflop as in portable mode. But it won't need that level of power to match the current systems visuals on a much smaller screen.
Eurogamer said "TX1 in current (at the time of the article) devkits, but that might change. Also the noisy fan".
castaction
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Im gonna say i will.lower my expectation on the nx i just hope is 2x the power of the wii u if its more great
Kinda makes you think, doesn't it?
That it was useless like every other random click-bait article about what would be in the NX but doesn't do a good job of it? Yes.
Dark Cloud
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Meh. Doesn't mean anything still. It's up to the companies to create the hype with what they show. They're still two different types of systems for different experiences.
KojiKnight
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And yet we have e3 every year... Well... less Nintendo recently
That's why I would have just wanted Nintendo to reveal the same day as PS4 NEO. Fun times to be had. Remember the Wii at E3 2006? lol
To be fair, Digitimes broke the story on NX being a hybrid device one month before Eurogamer did.
June 2nd, 2016
We might learn, that it's a chip used for games. We probably won't learn that it is going to be used for NX unless Nintendo has authorised it.
I just mean that all we keep talking about is Nvidia's GPU. No CPU, no ram, no storage. Just Nvidia.
Ofcourse not, but we might get a lot more info on performance, energy consumption, shader functions etc.. It's a quite technical showcase, not really focused on consumers.
lwilliams3
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I believe LCGeek said a few weeks ago that her sources was expecting something in early August.
I'm not sure what your getting at exactly, we've speculated those because we don't have much info from the leaks. We at least have insider info on how powerful the CPU is, just not its type.
In the WUST, no one knew the RAM but someone managed to guess 2GB of RAM correctly, but no one got the GPU right. I can't remember what was mentioned about the CPU other than being weak.
And yet we have e3 every year... Well... less Nintendo recently
What's the point in missing the E3 and making a separate announcement during something that would be like a E3 clone without all the benefits of E3 ( 3 days of hands-on from the biggest number of journalists being in the same place at once, including a good chunk mainstream media and the attention of the people who don't necessarily follow the gaming news so close during the rest of the year)?
btw
wonder if this patent is new, but the drawing look something different then what i've seen in the past
http://www.blog.dubaimazad.com/games/new-nintendo-nx-controller-patent
wonder if this patent is new, but the drawing look something different then what i've seen in the past
http://www.blog.dubaimazad.com/games/new-nintendo-nx-controller-patent
That seems like the same patent that was discussed a few years ago:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=811351
Maybe it's updated?
RavageDark
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As they use the exact same image is in the 2014 patent I think they just read about it somewhere and assumed it was something new.
Edit: apparently the status changed to "granted" yesterday, but no change in the actual content.
Graphics Horse
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Why should we think that? There are no links to anything in your story, just a 2 year old picture.
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Rösti
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Actually, that patent was granted yesterday on August 16, 2016.
Search application number 14/058882 here: http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair
I believe this image is a new one? not the same?
Or maybe i didn't see this one in the old patent
Graphics Horse
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Rösti;213944271 said:
Huh, cool, Looks like this story was picked up on quite a few places already now I search for it.
To be fair, hybrid speculation has been a thing for well over a year.
"Second"
I wouldn't be surprised it it were more like the fifth lol
Apparently that Bplus Games guy is teasing a new NX IP:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BJMFrIlBzwr/
Probably already out there, and may be full of it, but figured I'd share! I'm going back and checking old NX threads and seeing if any of those old developers claiming to be working on NX games have made any progress or anything like that!
I'm literally moving to a new state in three days but the hype is making it hard to focus!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BJMFrIlBzwr/
Probably already out there, and may be full of it, but figured I'd share! I'm going back and checking old NX threads and seeing if any of those old developers claiming to be working on NX games have made any progress or anything like that!
I'm literally moving to a new state in three days but the hype is making it hard to focus!
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