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Oculus Rift will have the ability to "stream Xbox One games" in "virtual cinema"
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benicillin
Banned
I was under the impression that the X1 doesn't have nearly the specs required to run the Rift in any meaningful way.
illmatic22
Banned
oh, um, ok?
Wouldn't the hardcore just shell out money for larger screens to display their games instead going for a virtual option?
Zeouterlimits
Member
It's neat, but pretty much a feature users had made already (the cinema viewing experience). Not at all what I expected reading a title like "Xbox One games are coming to the Oculus Rift."
gamechanger87
Member
Exactly. I don't understand why people would think what we saw is the entire collaboration. Makes zero sense. They get no positive PR from what they showed. They showed that the three can work hand in hand, OR will be on W10, XBO will be W10 am I the only one who can connect the dots that there is something more than what we have seen.
MS isn't going all in on OR, but they can ride the coattails of a product that has mindshare on PC and the backing of Facebook. If they can get anything out of it, its a smart move and they didn't have to fund the R&D like Morpheus.
Unless Sony releases Morpheus on PC, they are kinda locked into the PS4 ecosystem.
Do you even understand the difference. The scale of the thing completely changes to what ever you want it to be. Have a 300ft screen on the moon if you want - the feeling of being there with that sort of scale is cool. Sync with other people around the world if you want and be in the same space when hundreds of miles apart. It's just one small opportunity rather than the big selling point
Octavianus
Banned
Uhm, yes
I think it's more that stuff like this (if VR takes off and grows) is what enables you to stay immersed in whatever world/environment you are in and do different things.
Beerman462
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This shit is depressing, because you know there will be cases similar to this. I mean we already have shut ins, but you have to wonder if the immersion of VR will make it worse and really disconnect people from reality.
Why just a big TV? Why not a movie theater, a beach, a mountain top, the bridge of the USS Enterprise. Imagine playing Alien Isolation onboard the Nostromo with ambient sounds and the Alien occasionally coming into the room. People need to use their imagination with this. I suppose they could have demoed it better.
InaudibleWhispa
Member
The current headset resolutions are the biggest stumbling block so far for virtual cinemas. You can choose between watching/playing in full HD on your TV or Monitor or at a lower resolution on what looks like an Imax screen. No harm in offering that choice at all really, it's not taking anything away, if you don't want to sacrifice resolution for screen size then simply don't do it.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I'm guessing it's because of the Windows 10 integration. Streaming will already be an MS thing for Windows 10 so it's probably easy to implement that into their (possibly preexisting?) virtual movie theater.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
So I guess I can simulate having an absolutely massive tv?
Reallink
Member
Why in the world would they need to Stream or Remote play PS4 games to a PS4?
More accurately you can simulate having an absolutely massive Sub-HD screen. 1080x1200 with say 50% of that real estate being the "game screen" is ~650k pixels (720p is ~920k pixels). The way the optics work in these headsets, you don't even get anywhere close to the full 1080x1200 resolution being usable, so the reality is far lower than even 650k pixels.
Among other things, surely. As a person who loves old movies but has never had the opportunity to see many of them on a huge ass screen as intended, I certainly am looking forward to virtual theatres.
i think we all completely understand
this could be done in many different ways....
Metalingus5150
Member
There is a group within the hardcore who think this is the future of everything. You can see in this thread.
MisterR
Member
From everything we've seen the Xbox One won't be able to run OR stuff. The PC specs were pretty steep.
The Inventor
Member
You get to play on a...70"+++ virtual tv?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Don't get excited lol
Even Xzibit thinks that's ridiculous
Or playing in space, or some weird ass location on a 100 foot screen. The cinema app is pretty much just a video player and they are just adding the Xbox One to Windows 10 streaming to that app.
RowdyReverb
Member
Or playing on this screen
Playing games or watching movies on any weird screen would be fun. Why play in a bland VR living room when you can be sitting on a couch in space with a projector aimed at the moon?
Video to see how stupid this is - http://uk.ign.com/videos/2015/06/11/this-is-what-forza-looks-like-on-oculus
a secret-boss
Banned
if it's themed room sure
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Bam Bam Baklava
Member
What if I wanna watch myself in the virtual living room playing the game while playing the game? Can I get a third person version?
Neuromancer
Member
Ah good point, I forgot about that.
gamechanger87
Member
I have a feeling the OR will require W10 in the end. Do I think XBO can run games anywhere near the top of the line OR specs? No. Do I think there is other stuff that will be developed (not just games ) that is not as taxing? Yes.
PS4 isn't so massively powerful compared to the XBO that they can't do some VR stuff.
I think they'd need a second hdmi port on the headset to allow that. Otherwise you're going to need some kind of more explicit, non-standard communication with the host theatre app (and whatever device that is running on).
Chobel
Member
For streaming games or movies, yes it will be fine.
For rendering games though? That's gonna be very hard. OR specs are:
Resolution = 2160 x 1200
Fps = 90HZ
That's would need a lot of processing power even for very simple games.
The Elite
BOSS
But do you have the space for a projector? The throw distance for a 120 inch screen?
Captain Tuttle
Member
Ha-ha exactly how I feel, I wouldn't be surprised to read this on April 1
Oculus could already do this. I figure you can play anything that you can pipe video into your PC. Would be more interesting if it didn't need a PC as a middle man. Still something that I have been hoping for a while that Morpheus can also do for non VR games on PS4. Cool, just nothing new. I was expecting something native.
The rift was not designed around the Xbone hardware. To make good VR experiences for the Xbone there needs to be a Xbone version that does suit the hardware. If MS expects to just dump the Rift on Xbone and everything works out fine they don't care about the VR experience for their Xbone consumer base.
If there's going to be space around the virtual TV, is there really much of a difference? If you want a bigger screen without the audiovisual interference, couldn't you just turn the lights out and sit closer to your current TV?
I guess ill just play traditional games on my tv and use the rift for vr games.
I dont need no chumps playing volleyball on the beach while im trying to play the witcher.
gamechanger87
Member
Completely agree. I just think the first part is the first big step in VR anyway. If there wasn't more here, why even bother collaborating? The me too thought process from some in here doesn't make sense, unless they had other ideas for it.
hydrophilic attack
Member
The age of Sony is done
It makes sense for the PC side of Microsoft.
Netherscourge
Banned
So, it's basically XB1 remote play - with a big headset instead of a Vita-equivalent.
So, you can pair your $350 XB1 with a $1,500 Oculus VR headset and play your XB1 games anywhere - with a big VR headset over your face, not giving you any peripheral view of the outside world, thus potentially making it dangerous to use in a mobile sense, which would defeat a major point of the "remote play" idea.
metareferential
Member
You can't be serious.
Why don't we all use but smartphones at two inches from our faces, then.
So MS can say that it has VR support in 1080p, I'm guessing.
My honest guess, is like I've been espousing, you soon won't need the xb1 for this to work. Just the PC, the PC that MS is using as it's new gaming platform.
I'm sorry but it still sounds ridiculous. The Oculus Rift only has a 1080p screen anyway, so any simulated screen will have a smaller resolution.
Pretending to watch a movie on the moon while you're sitting on your couch just has no appeal whatsoever, and making the screen massive enough where you need to move your head around sounds like sitting in the front row of a movie theatre. Especially since you'll be sitting there alone, closed off from the real world and any real people you live with.
Beerman462
Member
Playing an XB1 game on a virtual beach when suddenly a volleyball lands between you and the screen. Someone comes in to pick it up blocking your view so you have to sit up and try to look around them.
The thought of this makes me laugh.