DeaconKnowledge
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So even you admit with a pricedrop the system is only going to do 45k more than it did this month? Seems like the definition of "varied increase" to me.Revelations said:
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Official July 2008 NPD Results Thread
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Those sons of the bitches. Damn them toJB1981 said:
a great fun-filled PS3 existence
Revelations
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Spiegel said:
Segata Sanshiro said:
Hence why I said seems to me. It is my own opinion it didn't reach expectations for Konami & Sony. And I stand by that. My reason? It nose dives in its 2nd month of re;lease to a very low number. And manages to push a subtle number of consoles in its 2nd month of availability.
BishopLamont
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People seem to think third party games are the only games on the Wii. They expect the best of the best third party games on the Wii to justify it's sales. :loljgwhiteus said:
Am I the only one who chuckled at "ROCK BAND SPECIAL ED" for Wii? Guess I'm just easily amused...
360 price drop/clearance didn't have such a huge boost, still outsold by 20k. Was just botched opportunity, done at a poor time (no major software releases), there was Shane Kim downplaying it and calling it "not a price cut", the news of the $299 60GB already out there, etc. Could have been handled much better.
Soul Calibur did fairly well for a weeks worth of sales, will be interesting to see what it does in August. MGS4 already completely dropping out of the top 10 in just the second month on sale though, that's surprising.
And like usual, Nintendo just makes everyone else look silly. Outselling the PS3 and 360 combined by a huge amount. It's like the iPod dominating while Sandisk and Zune fight over table scraps.
360 price drop/clearance didn't have such a huge boost, still outsold by 20k. Was just botched opportunity, done at a poor time (no major software releases), there was Shane Kim downplaying it and calling it "not a price cut", the news of the $299 60GB already out there, etc. Could have been handled much better.
Soul Calibur did fairly well for a weeks worth of sales, will be interesting to see what it does in August. MGS4 already completely dropping out of the top 10 in just the second month on sale though, that's surprising.
And like usual, Nintendo just makes everyone else look silly. Outselling the PS3 and 360 combined by a huge amount. It's like the iPod dominating while Sandisk and Zune fight over table scraps.
Revelations
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It's never a big bump in its first month of new MSRP. I never claimed an swesomely selling huge big number. It builds with a high point in December's holiday shopping period.Weisheit said:
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Revelations said:
I'm surprised you would really expect MGS4 to be a steady system seller on a large scale.
The previous three didn't do that AFAIK, so why would yet another sequel manage to pull that off? Besides, GTA4 would have been far more likely to have that position if previous sales are anything (at all) to go by. And GTA4 didn't work on a large scale either.
gaheris
Member
WOW I think that Little Big Planet for the PS3 will do great but I am concerned that it will be limited in its ability to move hardware because of the price of the PS3. It seems just a big price of entry for one game at a really bad economic time. It will do really well but man the PS3 needs to drop its price.
OH and Wii and DS are railroading the competition. I think this makes what Nintendo will do next even more interesting because they can carry this momentum into the next generation and also might be able to take further risks with some more disruption.
OH and Wii and DS are railroading the competition. I think this makes what Nintendo will do next even more interesting because they can carry this momentum into the next generation and also might be able to take further risks with some more disruption.
Revelations
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I doubt that was just me expecting that. Wasn't that a good number of peoples hopes & dreams on this forum?Zeitgeister said:
Somebody fire Shane Kim.
Too Human, MMOs, Shadowrun, that dude doesn't know shit. I want Peter Back, why is it that EA is becoming so cool now and MS is becoming more shit by the month?
People here were barking at how MGS4 had more hype than MGS2, don't worry, you're far from being alone.
Too Human, MMOs, Shadowrun, that dude doesn't know shit. I want Peter Back, why is it that EA is becoming so cool now and MS is becoming more shit by the month?
Revelations said:
People here were barking at how MGS4 had more hype than MGS2, don't worry, you're far from being alone.
Kestastrophe
Member
gaheris said:
I don't know man, everybody and their brother are willing to buy a Wii for Wii Sports or WiiFit it seems. I realize their pricing is different, but so is their value proposition.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
I really have to wonder if the 360 is filling out the rest of the top 100, because they're slowly but surely being taken out of the top 10 by Nintendo.
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Thats funny because Shane Kim was recently promoted. He no longer handle Xbox business specifically.WrikaWrek said:
gaheris
Member
Kestastrophe said:
I think it is about perception because you don't have to buy Wii Fit right away, and if you just get the system you can play it right away and add Wii Play then you can play it fully. It is that when you get it home you can open it and play it without having to go get anything else even though we all know there are other costs associated with it the perception and the price of the competition will continue to linger.
And you are right the value is different when gas and energy prices are rising buying a 400 dollar game system when you can get a cheaper and more popular alternative becomes a lot more attractive and if you really don't care about blue-ray then that makes it irrelevant to those people.
frankthurk
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Frillen said:
I think LBP will sell gangbusters compared to what some trolls believe it will.
Revelations
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I couldn't personally give a shit. Just seems to me it was one of the few titles people believed would help sell PS3 systems at a more rate than it did. Because if you cant say that about Metal Gear Solid what other game can you say it for, FFXIII is multi now...WrikaWrek said:
I'd say GOW3 but its a bit far off.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Revelations said:
True, but I do doubt many of them believe(d) that much to be realistic though.
I guess you could blame FF13 being announced multiplatform for some it, if you want.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
gaheris said:
I'm comfortable for setting a bar for LBP, here it goes:
NA sales of the game won't outpace MGS4 NA LTD.
Digital-Hero
Member
Sean said:
A little harsh heh.
Peter Moore and Shane were working at MS at the same time. Blame them both.
Revelations said:
I've seen this thrown around before. Heck even people at 1up were like "Omg if god of war 3 shows up at E3 then Sony has their conference, that's a mega huge duper game, it will sell billions" etc, exagerated for effect.
Since when is God of War this huge franchise? It sells great, i believe God of War 2 sold between 2 and 3 million, but it has nothing on MGS and other high profile IPs.
Sean said:
Shane Kim has always been the responsible one for first party development.
BishopLamont said:
Yes.
BishopLamont
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Biitter much??WrikaWrek said:
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Sure, some of the nutters believed that. I personally expected MGS4 to do terribly.Revelations said:
Wow at DS and Wii for keeping up, it's not like you can sell 4 Wii's to one family like the DS.
I hope we get numbers for Mega Man 9, I'll be interested which console sells the most. The Wii has the userbase, but the 360 and PS3 have a much more tech savy audience. Will Nintendo market Wiiware at all beyond the Nintendo Channel?
I hope we get numbers for Mega Man 9, I'll be interested which console sells the most. The Wii has the userbase, but the 360 and PS3 have a much more tech savy audience. Will Nintendo market Wiiware at all beyond the Nintendo Channel?
dreamer3kx
Member
ok so when will everyone in the world have a wii?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Been off on a tangent, but it looks like PS3 sales in Japan fell below 10k last week, and the 360 has overtaken it...
Freeza Under The Shower
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Frillen said:
That's really hard to predict at this point.
It is not a story heavy, hours involving blockbuster-type game, so it might do well under a more casual oriented part of the PS3 userbase (and new sales perhaps).
But I would agree that outside of being exclusive, most of the "hardcore" audience probably wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole.
And how the community support will work out is anyones guess. If it works, LBP will be (or rather: become) a steady seller, that much I'm willing to bet on.
