Darryl M R
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Make the right own it.
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Reddit troll apologizes for trump CNN gif/all those racist remarks
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Make the right own it.
Has anyone seen this yet?
What do you even do at this point.
I thought they were supposed to be ISIS.
Fix your messaging, loons.
His post history and behavior on reddit is newsworthy because it helps contextualize the source of Trumps tweet. Exposing his identity adds nothing to the story no matter how many memes Trump sources from him.If he continues posting hateful images he continues the behavior that makes him a newsworthy individual now that he's an involuntary public figure, so yeah. It's not holding it hostage, it's saying "this information isn't worth publishing if you want to move on from the whole thing but if you continue putting yourself in the news we may write about it."
dynamitejim
Member
And you think it's appropriate for them to hold his information hostage on the contingency that he ceases hateful memeing?
"If you post more images doxxing our Jewish employees we will have to do a story on it in which we release your name."
How is that hostage taking? They are absolutely within their right to do so.
Jawbreaker
Member
And you think it's appropriate for them to hold his information hostage on the contingency that he ceases hateful memeing?
They should have just released it and shown zero remorse for that human bag of filth. As if that apology was sincere. Give me a break. People need to feel the consequences and social repercussions of their hateful actions. Who knows what sort of position this man holds where his extreme biases could be hurting others.
EdibleKnife
Member
Name and shame the newsworthy racist fucking garbage piles and don't let them get out of it by apologizing in the first place.
This. Stop letting heinous shit off with a warning. Start making sure that people who participate or support those who make it their crusade to harm minorities physically or emotionally no longer have the opportunity to just give the bare minimum for forgiveness.
His post history and behavior on reddit is newsworthy because it helps contextualize the source of Trumps tweet. Exposing his identity adds nothing to the story no matter how many memes Trump sources from him.
What do you think would be an appropriate consequence for his hateful comments and behavior?
benicillin
Banned
His post history and behavior on reddit is newsworthy because it helps contextualize the source of Trumps tweet. Exposing his identity adds nothing to the story no matter how many memes Trump sources from him.
You're wrong though. Newspapers and journalists have been publicly naming people they find during investigations for decades, especially people who have a relationship to the President.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
And you think it's appropriate for them to hold his information hostage on the contingency that he ceases hateful memeing?
It's less inappropriate than the behavior of the person in question is doing.
So why are you worried about the former when the latter is ridiculously more disgusting and... "inappropriate"?
His post history and behavior on reddit is newsworthy because it helps contextualize the source of Trumps tweet. Exposing his identity adds nothing to the story no matter how many memes Trump sources from him.
It seems CNN came to the same conclusion, even if they left their options open.
Because one is supposed to be a reputable news org.....It's less inappropriate than the behavior of the person in question is doing.
So why are you worried about the former when the latter is ridiculously more disgusting and... "inappropriate"?
Has anyone seen this yet?
What do you even do at this point.
Why would they sully such an important icon to their cause by associating it with FAKE NEWS!11!!1 like that? At least put the pride flag or a peace sign or Hillary's head up there! /s
When I first read this thread (at least the first couple pages) I leaned a little more toward the 'sounds a little blackmail-y' side of the fence, but reading the circumstances that led CNN to withhold his name and the disgusting content that got exposure once the redditor in question chose to publicly claim credit for the meme image, I say that they should have just released his name from the beginning and let him face the consequences of his actions. If anything, it might make some of the (non-Russian) t_d posters think twice before shitposting their bigotry all over the place.
Also, it's rather sad that there are people out there in their thirties (or even older) who feel that spewing violent racist rhetoric is somehow OK.
His post history and behavior on reddit is newsworthy because it helps contextualize the source of Trumps tweet. Exposing his identity adds nothing to the story no matter how many memes Trump sources from him.
Actually yeah, his identity is actually important to show that he's a part of real life community (or not).
His identity and the contrast to his online activity is actually interest and shed a better light on the story.
That he has 3 cats or not is not of interest, that he's or not some 15yo troll IS of interest.
benicillin
Banned
It's incredible how that "he was only 15-years old" statement spread.
There was literally no evidence for it and yet it has managed to be repeated everywhere.
If you think of it like those iodine pills you take before a scan to trace your internals or w/e, you can see the evolution of fake right-wing news in realtime. It starts on 4chan, spreads to Reddit where they repeat it ad nauseam, it gets picked up by influencers on Twitter and eventually ends up at the White House.
Jawbreaker
Member
It's incredible how that "he was only 15-years old" statement spread.
There was literally no evidence for it and yet it has managed to be repeated everywhere.
Trump's personal retinue of internet shitlords mobilizes quickly.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
What do you think would be an appropriate consequence for his hateful comments and behavior?
Donate to the guys totally not a scam legal fund.
"If you post more images doxxing our Jewish employees we will have to do a story on it in which we release your name."
How is that hostage taking? They are absolutely within their right to do so.
"The right deeply regrets normalizing _______ in discourse, please don't reciprocate our actions" is becoming quite the trend.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
Because one is supposed to be a reputable news org.....
Continuing the tradition of reporting in events with factual evidence.
Yet you call that "inappropriate".
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
"If you post more images doxxing our Jewish employees we will have to do a story on it in which we release your name."
How is that hostage taking?
I imagine the right wing hate sphere feels the squeeze and feel like they're being taken hostage when they have to actually account for their behavior.
Continuing the tradition of reporting in events with factual evidence.
Yet you call that "inappropriate".
They didn't even report all of the facts because we don't know the guy's name.
And yet the anonymous dude has been positioned as the victim.
Because one is supposed to be a reputable news org.....
And they did what reputable news organisations have for decades. They followed up on a story, did research and made a call on it after talking to the Redditor.
You are wrong. If a journalist reveals names its because the revelation contains information of value that is in vital public interest. They dont just decide anyone is free game as long as they are involved. And to say this guy and the president have a relationship is quite the blatant stretch.You're wrong though. Newspapers and journalists have been publicly naming people they find during investigations for decades, especially people who have a relationship to the President.
TheCochese
Banned
Because one is supposed to be a reputable news org.....
Here lies remist, on this dumb hill.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Amusing how actually doxxing transgender people is very important free speech that should not be deplatformed, but saying that you could - but didn't - reveal the name of that guy who wants to kill all the Muslims is the line that's been drawn.
It'd be interesting to go back and see if the same people defending the guy's right to anonymity here were also defending trans people's right to anonymity when they were being outed on stage by that cunt Milo.
It's incredible how that "he was only 15-years old" statement spread.
There was literally no evidence for it and yet it has managed to be repeated everywhere.
Well they know their current argument is weak so they needed another angle. Sad it was fake news. Poor Donny Jr. but fake news only counts as fake it if comes from the Left.
You are wrong. If a journalist reveals names its because the revelation contains information of value that is in vital public interest. They dont just decide anyone is free game as long as they are involved. And to say this guy and the president have a relationship is quite the blatant stretch.
You could make this argument if they did reveal his name but obviously they didn't but of course lets argue about the hypothetical black mail and doxxing and what not.
His post history and behavior on reddit is newsworthy because it helps contextualize the source of Trumps tweet. Exposing his identity adds nothing to the story no matter how many memes Trump sources from him.
What do you think would be an appropriate consequence for his hateful comments and behavior?
What do you think would be an appropriate consequence for his hateful comments and behavior?
Someone needs to replace Sarah Sanders after she finally drops out of Donny's good side.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
You are wrong. If a journalist reveals names its because the revelation contains information of value that is in vital public interest. They dont just decide anyone is free game as long as they are involved. And to say this guy and the president have a relationship is quite the blatant stretch.
Knowing who is a vile arch racist is valuable information, especially when his particular brand of bullshit is making its way to the President.
benicillin
Banned
You are wrong. If a journalist reveals names its because the revelation contains information of value that is in vital public interest. They dont just decide anyone is free game as long as they are involved. And to say this guy and the president have a relationship is quite the blatant stretch.
I'm not wrong, though. "Where does the President source his propaganda" is a legitimate question, and investigating to find the actual person behind it and get a quote from him is legitimate journalism. They interviewed him, he freaked out, they agreed not to release his name because he said he wanted out of the meme game. If he continues they reserve the right to release that information because who the President gets information and propaganda from is a serious question that you're not placing the right amount of value on.
dynamitejim
Member
You are wrong. If a journalist reveals names its because the revelation contains information of value that is in vital public interest. They dont just decide anyone is free game as long as they are involved. And to say this guy and the president have a relationship is quite the blatant stretch.
1. White Supremacist posts image doxxing Jewish CNN employees
2. White Supremacist makes meme of Trump beating up CNN
3. Trump retweets meme
4. White Supremacist gladly takes credit for meme and shows support for Trump "MAGA"
This guy embroiled himself in this. He has no right to anonymity.
I'm not wrong, though. "Where does the President source his propaganda" is a legitimate question, and investigating to find the actual person behind it and get a quote from him is legitimate journalism. They interviewed him, he freaked out, they agreed not to release his name because he said he wanted out of the meme game. If he continues they reserve the right to release that information because who the President gets information and propaganda from is a serious question that you're not placing the right amount of value on.
It's not serious now? If it's serious, release his name. Him continuing his racist behavior doesn't make it any more serious. Conditioning the release of his name is where CNN screwed up.
1. White Supremacist posts image doxxing Jewish CNN employees
2. White Supremacist makes meme of Trump beating up CNN
3. Trump retweets meme
4. White Supremacist gladly takes credit for meme and shows support for Trump "MAGA"
This guy embroiled himself in this. He has no right to anonymity.
But he's a white man who was just playing about that whole nigger thing. Surely that is enough to protect him from the evils of CNN out to ruin his and his family's lives.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
So is CNN expected to report on crimes by just detailing what happened and not the perps name because it isn't 100% material to the crime committed?
"Area man arrested for murder. No other information will be provided."
"Area man arrested for murder. No other information will be provided."
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
It blows my mind that CNN could have avoided this whole shitstorm by being less nice, and not issuing a follow-up altogether. Wow.
Oh don't worry, H3H3 and Phillip DeFranco will most definitely stoke the flames today (Phillip has a weird obsession with shitting on CNN on his show). Gotta keep this non-story going!Well they know their current argument is weak so they needed another angle. Sad it was fake news. Poor Donny Jr. but fake news only counts as fake it if comes from the Left.
You are wrong. If a journalist reveals names its because the revelation contains information of value that is in vital public interest. They dont just decide anyone is free game as long as they are involved. And to say this guy and the president have a relationship is quite the blatant stretch.
Do you live in the US because that isn't true? Unless you're underage or a victim of a crime, which even then sometimes doesn't protect you, the media will put your name out and run you ragged. I don't see why this person should be given an exception and gets to keep his anonymity. It also wouldn't be doxxing. People need to bookmark urban dictionary.
I'm not wrong, though. "Where does the President source his propaganda" is a legitimate question, and investigating to find the actual person behind it and get a quote from him is legitimate journalism. They interviewed him, he freaked out, they agreed not to release his name because he said he wanted out of the meme game. If he continues they reserve the right to release that information because who the President gets information and propaganda from is a serious question that you're not placing the right amount of value on.
The President of the United States posts a meme clip circulating alt-right circles and as it turns out was created by a racist with fantasies of killing Muslims and not a peep about that (hey it was funny!). What they really care about is how CNN treated the poor soul. Sad times we live in folks.
Darryl M R
Member
It blows my mind that CNN could have avoided this whole shitstorm by being less nice, and not issuing a follow-up altogether. Wow.
Oh don't worry, H3H3 and Phillip DeFranco will most definitely stoke the flames today (Phillip has a weird obsession with shitting on CNN on his show). Gotta keep this non-story going!
Funny since CNN does exactly what Philip does constantly by playing devil's advocate with the people they bring on for their panels.
Yup H3H3 and Philip will be talking about this. Hmm I wonder if Ethan is still facing that lawsuit and if his ad revenue ever returned. Any updates on his situation?
So is CNN expected to report on crimes by just detailing what happened and not the perps name because it isn't 100% material to the crime committed?
"Area man arrested for murder. No other information will be provided."
I have no problem with the release of information. My problem is with:
"Area man arrested for murder. Not releasing the info now, but we reserve the right to change our mind if he murders again"
We know who he sourced his propaganda from and it's pretty edifying. His real identity doesnt add anything besides sate a lust for mob justice.I'm not wrong, though. "Where does the President source his propaganda" is a legitimate question, and investigating to find the actual person behind it and get a quote from him is legitimate journalism. They interviewed him, he freaked out, they agreed not to release his name because he said he wanted out of the meme game. If he continues they reserve the right to release that information because who the President gets information and propaganda from is a serious question that you're not placing the right amount of value on.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
Do you live in the US because that isn't true? Unless you're underage or a victim of a crime, which even then sometimes doesn't protect you, the media will put your name out and run you ragged. I don't see why this person should be given an exception and gets to keep his anonymity.
Wonder if Remist is familiar with people like Nancy Grace...
Well I never forgive any racist. Apologize all they want I dont give a shit.
People can be forgiven if they change and show sincere regret for what they did. In order for any of that to happen they need to face consequences for their actions in the first place though.
benicillin
Banned
We know who he sourced his propaganda from and it's pretty edifying. His real identity doesnt add anything besides sate a lust for mob justice.
I mean CNN mostly agreed with you, since they didn't release his name and cited his safety as a reason. But if he continues to get up in public (because the Internet is a public place) and shout about how CNN are a bunch of jews and how all Muslims should get killed, there's an argument to be made that his identity could be released because he isn't guaranteed privacy. I don't get what you aren't understanding about that. If you're made a public figure for shitting in a pool, and you tell the newspaper you aren't going to do it again so they leave your name out of the story, but then the next day you go and shit in the pool again, there's no reason *not* to tell everyone you're shitting in the pool.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Funny since CNN does exactly what Philip does constantly by playing devil's advocate with the people they bring on for their panels.
Yup H3H3 and Philip will be talking about this. Hmm I wonder if Ethan is still facing that lawsuit and if his ad revenue ever returned. Any updates on his situation?
Who the hell are these people?
EdibleKnife
Member
I have no problem with the release of information. My problem is with:
"Area man arrested for murder. Not releasing the info now, but we reserve the right to change our mind if he murders again"
If such a person were to escape and became more dangerous, why shouldn't the public be privy to his name? If they know who it is and his identity became relevant then I don't see the issue with such a statement
theCalamity
Member
No, we know an internet handle. We don't know who he is.We know who he sourced his propaganda from and it's pretty edifying. His real identity doesnt add anything besides sate a lust for mob justice.
We know who he sourced his propaganda from and it's pretty edifying. His real identity doesnt add anything besides sate a lust for mob justice.
It also lets people, mostly minorities, know that they may be being educated or otherwise serviced by a person who actually believes they should be dead, and that they should probably take their business to institutions that might not harbor such an individual.
Darryl M R
Member
Who the hell are these people?
Don't waste your time looking up these YouTubers. White moderate and off-white moderate.