Square Triangle
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Well of course that had to do with it but the conference was long after MS backpedaled and it helps getting a free system and 6 games. (The employees didn't know about their free One until the meeting itself)
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Report: Xbox owners are deserting Microsoft consoles for the PlayStation 4
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Well of course that had to do with it but the conference was long after MS backpedaled and it helps getting a free system and 6 games. (The employees didn't know about their free One until the meeting itself)
i wasn't picking exclusives or starting a list war or anything. i was just agreeing with the person i quoted about what he said lol.
and yeah i agree with both of you too
XD
Joke post?
I mean, comparing a B-tier developer like Insomniac to anything Sony has under their 1st party is just... lol
And then there's remedy... lol
PoloBlue28
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The average consumer only cares about price. Not which version runs at what frame-rate, not sure if they even know what that is.
Yup, former 360 owner who really did plan on an xbone until a friend talked sense into me. Glad I switched too. I'm agnostic and fickle but loyal 
Microsoft really should have came out with the xbone last gen or even just a few years sooner. Back then I had cable now I'm streaming online so what, 50-60% of the xbone features are meaningless to me. Kinect would be cool if it did anything besides voice garbage I will never use. I liked the first Kinect but I got a free one late in its life. Sony doesn't have much for its camera but Playroom is a neat distraction. So at the end of the day, features like HDMI passthrough, DVR, NFL, and Kinect voice are all a waste of my money. Sorry Microsoft but Sony is more in tune with my gaming needs. Oh and they reward me with games in return for my Plus money. Was a paying Live customer for over half a decade and got two free games that were old, thanks it shows you care.
Microsoft really should have came out with the xbone last gen or even just a few years sooner. Back then I had cable now I'm streaming online so what, 50-60% of the xbone features are meaningless to me. Kinect would be cool if it did anything besides voice garbage I will never use. I liked the first Kinect but I got a free one late in its life. Sony doesn't have much for its camera but Playroom is a neat distraction. So at the end of the day, features like HDMI passthrough, DVR, NFL, and Kinect voice are all a waste of my money. Sorry Microsoft but Sony is more in tune with my gaming needs. Oh and they reward me with games in return for my Plus money. Was a paying Live customer for over half a decade and got two free games that were old, thanks it shows you care.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Well price, and where they can play COD, FIFA and GTA.
MightyHedgehog
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Then they might prefer the X1 since it has a more diverse lineup than PS4 which is, in relative terms, filled to the brim with shooters.
Yeah, I don't think they understand any details, but many of them get a general idea.
What's wrong with owning a Virtual Boy? I'd love to own a Virtual Boy! It seems like an interesting conversation piece. Like taxidermy of a cow's butt.
Let's not say things we can't take back.
Disaster Nebraska
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I think the tarnished reputation - and not simply from the X1 reveal - plays a significant role here. It's not so much "Sony can do no wrong!" as it is "Ewwww, Xbox One? No thanks. I guess I'll get PS4 since I want muh Black Ops 3". And in the same way, it's not so much "Infamous Second Son?!??! OMG! Gotta buy right now!" as it is "Um, Forza? Another gritty shooter? Kinect? Zombies? Eh, this is what they've spoon-fed me for the last half-decade. Can't I have something new?"
When people buy a new console, they look back and say "how did this company treat me last time around?". That's part of why the Wii-U failed to gain any traction (people looked back and noticed that Nintendo completely abandoned the Wii Sports/Mario Kart crowd mid-2010.)
KungFucius
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I bought a PS4 first, but that is because it launched a week early. I would have done PS4 only if I wasn't such a moron who needed to own every console.
Amentallica
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So I guess he isn't joking with the things he says
I was 98% Xbox 360 last gen. Tons of retail and Live Arcade games. Now I'm all in on PS4 with no plans to buy an xb1 until they come out with something new. Titanfall being significantly better on PC really cemented that.
I can't imagine paying over $300 for an xb1. Outside of Dead Rising the exclusives don't really pull me in.
I can't imagine paying over $300 for an xb1. Outside of Dead Rising the exclusives don't really pull me in.
R3TRODYCE
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This was actually a well thought out post and I can actually see this happening.
Word spreads fast about what's the "console to get".
Even if specific technical details go over the heads of the non-techie customer, he probably has caught wind of the drama and negativity surrounding the Bone ever since it's first reveal.
And if his gaming friends, who do know, pick up PS4's, he's certainly not going to buck the trend and be the one sticking with the Xbox One.
Price is just one of the factors at play. The mindshare and surrounding negativity surrounding the Xbox One weigh in a lot heavier than you'd imagine.
sixamp
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I agree Microsoft screwed up their message to gamers but the console has some fun exclusives right now. Specs dont mean everything . If your main factor is to go where the games are then the xbox one is the place to go right now. I was a die hard 360 owner who had the ps3 for exclusives but this gen i purchased the ps4 to have it die on me 2 times. I didnt get the xbx1 mainly due to i was waiting for titan fall .which is changing this week. but in anycase my 4 yr old pc >ps4>xbx1
Nydius
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Sad but true.
I got hooked on my original Xbox thanks to Oddworld and Blinx before even putting Halo in the disk tray. One of the first games I had for 360 was Kameo. Project Gotham Racing was a great arcade racer that was killed off in favor of pushing Forza uber alles (edit: full disclosure, I had Metropolis Street Racer on DC, so my opinion of PGR may be skewed). All of these games went the way of the dodo as Microsoft decided to steer the marketing for the 360 in the "dudebro shooter" direction. Gears, Halo, Gears, Halo, Forza! COD & MADDEN LOOKS BETTER HERE! (Here's Fable if you're into that kind of thing, did you see Halo?)
Every time someone on GAF compares Resistance favorably to HL2, I lose big chunks of hair.
Pretty much. The only true barrier is the real one - income
And patience, my friend. Let them run down to get one and we shall walk down to get them all!
I think its far too early to draw any conclusions about either audience.
Where MS really "won" in US/UK is with casual/softcore audiences and I'd be surprised if those people have really made any decisions about which console, if any, they are going with this early in the generation.
Where MS really "won" in US/UK is with casual/softcore audiences and I'd be surprised if those people have really made any decisions about which console, if any, they are going with this early in the generation.
Always online DRM was fatal for me. Even after the reversal, it was too late.
Dee Dah Dave
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Microsoft really goofed with the specs and pricing of the Xbox One when compared to the PS4. How Microsoft could not foresee that is beyond me, they have basically given a certain amount of sales to Sony for free. It's not like Sony have done anything incredible with the new PlayStation, it's pretty run of the mill. It's just Microsoft have made it look like a great choice by getting their own competing product so wrong.
Still having said that, the XB1 is the only "next gen" console I own so far along with my trusty PC. The PS4 and Wii U just have nothing in the games department lined up as of yet. I'm the type of person who usually buys everything at some stage, though I can definitely see why many would chose to go PS4 only this gen.
Still having said that, the XB1 is the only "next gen" console I own so far along with my trusty PC. The PS4 and Wii U just have nothing in the games department lined up as of yet. I'm the type of person who usually buys everything at some stage, though I can definitely see why many would chose to go PS4 only this gen.
And that's where your whole story falls apart.
The PS4 has no gaems.
Nice try!
Yeah, i think "the masses" don't know every detail how which game runs better and what AF method works better but general statements like "multiplats on 360 are better than on PS3" are well known and spread easy.
Same will be with PS4 > XB1.
If you keep shouting that it doesn't make it right.
Crimson_Gold
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I understand that people love exclusives, but why are some people actively ignoring third party titles. Destiny, CoD , Battlefield, assassin's Creed and many other titles will likely both look and perform better on the PS4. That is hard for many to bypass when combined with exclusive content and a lower price point. Also, can we stop ignoring indie titles when wee lusty exclusives. Those are games too you know.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Hmm I think there is some truth to this. Not sure if so many were scheduled for 360 originally, but I am pretty sure MS has been focusing on Xbone, in terms of games, for the last couple of years whilst letting the 360 fall to the wayside.
In fact that is patently the case if you look at 360's barren exclusive line-up these last two years. Sony on the other hand has spread their development on both PS3 and PS4. A little too evenly, some would argue.
Point being, I am not being duped so easily into thinking MS all of a sudden has a greater exclusive output than Sony's first party. It's not even close when you consider all the dev teams tied up with PS3 games within the last year. We've had GT6, Beyond, TLOU, Rain/Puppeteer etc etc
There is no way you have played Resistance 3. A Crack in Time is also probably in top 5 PS3 exclusive games, and that's a list filled with some really good games.
That don't care about framerate or resolution specifically but the idea that the average consumer doesn't care or won't ask which one's games look better is kind of misguided.
Omnistalgic
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Good to see all the switching stories...Sony played there card right and fans of gaming IMO should support the company with the best chance of furthering the industry and backing developers. Forums were a tough place to go on talking about VF5, Motorstorm and resistance, but Sony just continually added value to there platform, just need to do the same with vita..
If ms keeps providing value, I will pick up an X1 down the line, but outside of project spark I have no interest in getting anything from ms...in fact most of the stuff I can get on PC. More likely to get a steambox at this point.
If ms keeps providing value, I will pick up an X1 down the line, but outside of project spark I have no interest in getting anything from ms...in fact most of the stuff I can get on PC. More likely to get a steambox at this point.
Microsoft shoehorning microtransactions into a bunch of their launch titles was actually the biggest turn off. It's not really an issue per-game, just more that it's so pervasive. If that's what their starting point is I'm dreading what payment models they come up with 2 or 3 years from now.
MMaRsu
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You bought 2 PS4's which broke? Seems like bad luck.
Yes you go where the games are, but the platform with the more advanced specs can bring more possibilities. If the Xbone cannot even sustain the current games with good performance, I don't want to know how a game like The Division needs to be downgraded on Xbone.
Xbox has more games? No. This is simply not true. There are a few more 'exclusives' like Dead Rising 3 or that Panzer Dragoon like game, but those are games that were changed from Xbox 360 games to Xbone games.
With inFAMOUS coming out next week, we'll see that the PS4 is up to snuff and is able to run games like that with a massive graphics bump compared to Xbone games. Then you have Killzone SF which looks so much better than most games released up until now.
Alcotholic
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What doesnt make sense to me is why they didn't make Titanfall an Xbone exclusive. Releasing it one the PC and 360 will kill their console sales since there really is no other exclusive that will drive the system.
And yet I have played it. Bizarre.
ACiT I haven't played, but considering I hate all the R&Cs I have played, I would be surprised if it changed my mind.
They're truly awful.
Brianimaniac
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My closest online friends are a group of around 20 people on a small comic book forum, and last gen it was 18 to 2 in favor of Xbox 360. This time it's 19 to 1 in favor of PS4.
The Xbone doesn't have more games right now.
You're doing it wrong man. That's an obvious lie. You need to say:
XB1 has more games right now* (asterisk and then you elaborate how your taste is the one that matters.)
Zoe
Member
Maybe people don't want those exclusives.
You are weird man, lol.
R3TRODYCE
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There's always one holdout lol
MightyHedgehog
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Why do you think I'm shouting anything? I'm right.
Crimson_Gold
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EA could only afford to kneecap the franchise so much on release. There was no way the title would not see a PC and 360 release. The cost would have been too much for even MS to consider reasonable
Not to mention how it would have limited the franchise
Now that could certainly be the case.
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