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[Nirolak]

1. I just mentioned the patissier and the astrologer classes in responde to one user talking about accuracy - they're clearly not related to cultural exploitation.

2. the fact that there are many Christians - and that religion is chosen by the individual itself (which is a quite limited statement in my opinion, given how in many societies religion blended into a cultural trait) should not be used as arguments to justify the inaccurate and probably offensive representation of one of the most prominents consecrated members of the Christian clergy. Cultural (and religious, as in this case) appropriation should be per se - otherwise who are you to draw lines between who can be exploited and who cannot? I'm atheist and such, btw.

If, instead, the issue is about how sexualized the outfit is, then it's a quite unrelated topic - the bishop class is still misrepresented and female bishops don't even wear a skirt.

Well, I mean, they're always drawing lines in terms of deciding who they will and won't offend. It's a fantasy game with demons in it, so they're going to offend any Christian who - for example - finds Halloween or Harry Potter to be evil and horrible.

In order to answer your question, I tried to make educated guesses as to why they chose these lines for this release, and I would say it's because they don't want to offend a group of people who are a marginalized minority, but have a widespread national effort in the US to get them better representation.

As they went through the costumes, they presumably decided they wanted this to still be a sexy outfit, went about looking at what would have to change to make it less offensive, and decided to just toss the idea of having it be a Native American outfit.

I can see the problem with those scenarios but I still do not see the problem with "looking like a stripper". Nothing wrong with being half naked imo. No matter what walk of life you are taking. If you haven't noticed I do not like it when people try to use stripper in a negative connotation.

Sure. And I mean, they left her in the general outfit. They just updated the hat and removed the war paint because they decided blending the look was not one that'd go over well culturally.

They could even go about adding in a specific stripper class if they wanted, but most Japanese games aren't going to do that given they're rated for teens and they're likely going to have huge issues with their target audience and having male stripper in Japan.

 

[Warxard]

Damn, being a baker looks pretty rad.

 

[Alucrid]

For me, I'm more inclined to believe that PixyJunket's voice carries a little more weight because he or show at least embodies the lived experience of Indigenous peoples. Which is not to say that Boo Boo'n doesn't (I don't know either way), but, to me, the way Boo Boo'n responded to PixyJunket felt a lot like an attempt at silencing an Indigenous voice.

i'm 100% south korean, and it's good to know that my voice carries a little more weight because i embody the lived experience of south koreans and i ain't ever even been there

 

[dimb]

You're right, that's clearly the only difference:

Transplanting a white cast into an artistic depiction of a specific minority culture seems worse than anything going on in Bravely Second to me, much more when it's literally a case of oppressors and the race responsible for mass genocide being used as a replacement to create something more marketable/palatable.

This is kind of where "cultural appropriation" steps in. Thematically, Bravely Second's Tomahawk class fits with the other job outfits in the game from a visual perspective. Watching a video of the character the outfit is received from it doesn't really seem like offensive stereotyping, but I can't really say without understanding all the dialogue. Unlike sports organizations the concept of tribalism and spirituality isn't being turned into a mascot for use by other races, but is instead exhibited by a character who brings this theme into the game's over the top style. Really it's about as close to representation as you're going to get in a fantastical game like Bravely Second.

I'm not entirely sure that this localization change was worked in to avoid offensive content. Instead the Tomahawk class doesn't really fit with the perception of Native Americans by modern North Americans. For these modern Americans the image of Native Americans often comes with a position of being technologically primitive, an inescapable stereotype that comes in another form. If Bravely Second portrayed this class as a bow and arrow based spiritual warrior would the same problem exist? Instead this seems like an opportunity to make the gun-toting class into something more in line with American expectations.

 

[Pennywise83]

Well, I mean, they're always drawing lines in terms of deciding who they will and won't offend. It's a fantasy game with demons in it, so they're going to offend any Christian who - for example - finds Halloween or Harry Potter to be evil and horrible.

In order to answer your question, I tried to make educated guesses as to why they chose these lines for this release, and I would say it's because they don't want to offend a group of people who are a marginalized minority, but have a widespread national effort in the US to get them better representation.

As they went through the costumes, they presumably decided they wanted this to still be a sexy outfit, went about looking at what would have to change to make it less offensive, and decided to just toss the idea of having it be a Native American outfit.

That's not... The same thing. The representation of demons is not against any Christian dogma or belief (those who are offended by Harry Potter should read the Bible one more time at least) - the misrepresentation of one of the most prominent members of the Christian clergy might be totally seen as offensive since it's a cultural exploitation of a figure towards whom people show respect.

This is how Tiz looks like, by the way (quoted for the new page):

This is the original artwork of the character who owns the Tomahawk asterisk:

 

[Blood Diamonds]

The character job in question was about as embarrassing and poorly-thought-out an example of cultural appropriation as you can get these days. It doesn't even have the excuse of being called something like "Warrior" and just using a Native style; it's literally named something intended to convey this idea of a magical Indian warrior to an audience that doesn't know anything about indigenous American people beyond offensive 50s-era movie stereotypes. It is, to be blunt, hot garbage.

Now when Nintendo sits down to bring over this game to the US -- the country where the people being stereotyped here actually live, and a country where awareness of how shit these stereotypes are and how widely misused they are has grown dramatically in the last couple decades -- they're stuck looking at the fact that while the rest of the content in the game might be just fine, this costume is going to be offensive (and just disruptive to the experience) for a big part of their audience. And not for any particular reason -- this isn't a major storyline point that might be offensive to some but nonetheless is central to the narrative, or a callback to some external reference that people are expecting to see, it's just the video game equivalent of the Sexy Indian Squaw costumes shitty people wear to Halloween parties.

Given all that, making this choice is a slam dunk. If you keep it, you give actual, real offense to people who are a part of your audience, just to preserve something minor and unimportant in the game; if you get rid of it, the only people you offend are the ones working themselves up into an artificial froth over how any and every localization change is "censorship." The former is a real concern for an actual; business reliant on long term customer dedication for success; the latter is an audience you're better off actively pissing off early on in the hopes that you don't have to hear about it from them every time you do your job.

Also, these statements from the article quoted in the OP are outlandishly foolish:





The former reads like something someone who doesn't actually understand what people are complaining about in these situations trying to imagine how being offended works, and the second one is a bullshit excuse given disingenuously by people who never wanted to include minority characters in the first place.

yaaassss. Amazing post.

 

[chrisPjelly]

Make them Native American Cowboys... there, PROBLEM ARE SOLVE

 

[Nanashrew]

But, games are art. It's a perfectly valid defense.

And art has been censored before for centuries. Doesn't make those any less art.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

This is how Tiz looks like, by the way (quoted for the new page):

Well at least his pants look like they could stay on. xD

 

[Nirolak]

That's not... The same thing. The representation of demons is not against any Christian dogma or belief (those who are offended by Harry Potter should read the Bible one more time at least) - the misrepresentation of one of the most prominent members of the Christian clergy might be totally seen as offensive since it's a cultural exploitation of a figure towards whom people show respect.

This is how Tiz looks like, by the way (quoted for the new page):

This is the original artwork of the character who owns the Tomahawk asterisk:

Sure, I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of people who might find it offensive.

They're presumably picking and choosing what they decide to edit based on what they think the average response will be from their target audience.

Obviously they didn't find this costume to be problematic in Japan, so they left it alone.

However, they looked at the controversy around the Washington Redskins and went "This is a bad idea." and changed it.

They probably figured that the Catholic representation, while it would likely get you burned to death 500 years ago, would not be a problem in the modern West given that in Assassin's Creed 2 - a game that sold 10+ million copies - (ending spoilers)

Spoiler

you murder the Pope, who is an evil, villainous man who had been mass murdering for decades, including killing your entire family. The game even goes and states that FDR and Churchill were working in cahoots with Adolf Hitler to start World War 2 to forward their plans for the New World Order.

These are obviously topics a lot of people would be offended about, but the game still sold very well and didn't start much - if any - controversy, so presumably they were culturally acceptable.

For Square Enix, the three topics they seem to find problematic for Bravely Default when localizing are 1.) outfits that look too sexual for child porn concerns because of the Chibi artstyle, 2.) they try to make the protagonist dialog (spoilers for Bravely Default 1)

Spoiler

less rape joke heavy like the original version of the Bravo Bikini scene despite the fact the game has multiple other scenes with heavily implied rapists

, and 3.) this cultural problems surrounding this specific costume.

 

[Johndoey]

Transplanting a white cast into an artistic depiction of a specific minority culture seems worse than anything going on in Bravely Second to me, much more when it's literally a case of oppressors and the race responsible for mass genocide being used as a replacement to create something more marketable/palatable.

This is kind of where "cultural appropriation" steps in. Thematically, Bravely Second's Tomahawk class fits with the other job outfits in the game from a visual perspective. Watching a video of the character the outfit is received from it doesn't really seem like offensive stereotyping, but I can't really say without understanding all the dialogue. Unlike sports organizations the concept of tribalism and spirituality isn't being turned into a mascot for use by other races, but is instead exhibited by a character who brings this theme into the game's over the top style. Really it's about as close to representation as you're going to get in a fantastical game like Bravely Second.

I'm not entirely sure that this localization change was worked in to avoid offensive content. Instead the Tomahawk class doesn't really fit with the perception of Native Americans by modern North Americans. For these modern Americans the image of Native Americans often comes with a position of being technologically primitive, an inescapable stereotype that comes in another form. If Bravely Second portrayed this class as a bow and arrow based spiritual warrior would the same problem exist? Instead this seems like an opportunity to make the gun-toting class into something more in line with American expectations.

What are you talking about? Were all hunter-gathers Native American now or something? Do you even know what your trying to say here.

Sure, I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of people who might find it offensive.

They're presumably picking and choosing what they decide to edit based on what they think the average response will be from their target audience.

Obviously they didn't find this costume to be problematic in Japan, so they left it alone.

However, they looked at the controversy around the Washington Redskins and went "This is a bad idea." and changed it.

They probably figured that the Catholic representation, while it would likely get you burned to death 500 years ago, would not be a problem in the modern West given that in Assassin's Creed 2 - a game that sold 10+ million copies - (ending spoilers)

Spoiler

you murder the Pope, who is an evil, villainous man who had been mass murdering for decades, including killing your entire family. The game even goes and states that FDR and Churchill were working in cahoots with Adolf Hitler to start World War 2 to forward their plans for the New World Order.

These are obviously topics a lot of people would be offended about.

For Square Enix, the three topics they seem to find problematic for Bravely Default when localizing are 1.) outfits that look too sexual for child porn concerns because of the Chibi artstyle, 2.) they try to make the protagonist dialog (spoilers for Bravely Default 1)

Spoiler

less rape joke heavy like the original version of the Bravo Bikini scene despite the fact the game have multiple other scenes with heavily implied rapists

, and 3.) this cultural problems surrounding this specific costume.

Spoiler

You don't kill the Pope in Assassins Creed 2

 

[The Technomancer]

Uh yeah screw this

 

[Nirolak]

What are you talking about? Were all hunter-gathers Native American now or something? Do you even know what your trying to say here.

Spoiler

You don't kill the Pope in Assassins Creed 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI

Spoiler

Unless you're saying he survives that encounter, but he looked pretty dead. I should note I didn't play Brotherhood or Revelations. You at minimum beat the absolute shit out of him, seemingly with intent of killing him.

 

[royox]

There's only a hat added on the new pic and it could be an aesthetic extra object like the extra dresses you could use on the 1st game. Calm your tits everybody!

 

[Johndoey]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI

Spoiler

Unless you're saying he survives that encounter, but he looked pretty dead. You at minimum beat the absolute shit out of him.

Spoiler

He survives

 

[The Technomancer]

The Horizon costume is interesting because her outfit specifically doesn't, to my knowledge, pull too heavily on any actual native american design motifs (of course step in and correct me if I'm wrong). Some of the other characters in that game seem to, as has been pointed out, but her design mostly just looks like what you would get if you had some colorful highlights added to skins and furs, but like, none of the patterns or color choice are specifically evocative (in the way something like, say, this would be http://st.depositphotos.com/1746419...-textile-pattern-in-native-american-style.jpg).
Whereas in the image directly above this post you have both the headdress motif and the heavy use of the...tassles (is that the right word there?) both of which are very strongly associated with traditional garb.

 

[Regulus Tera]

did I travel back in time to the fucking 90s

 

[Kinsei]

did I travel back in time to the fucking 90s

Nah, the nineties wouldn't have had a problem with the costume.

 

[JasoNsider]

The character job in question was about as embarrassing and poorly-thought-out an example of cultural appropriation as you can get these days. It doesn't even have the excuse of being called something like "Warrior" and just using a Native style; it's literally named something intended to convey this idea of a magical Indian warrior to an audience that doesn't know anything about indigenous American people beyond offensive 50s-era movie stereotypes. It is, to be blunt, hot garbage.

Now when Nintendo sits down to bring over this game to the US -- the country where the people being stereotyped here actually live, and a country where awareness of how shit these stereotypes are and how widely misused they are has grown dramatically in the last couple decades -- they're stuck looking at the fact that while the rest of the content in the game might be just fine, this costume is going to be offensive (and just disruptive to the experience) for a big part of their audience. And not for any particular reason -- this isn't a major storyline point that might be offensive to some but nonetheless is central to the narrative, or a callback to some external reference that people are expecting to see, it's just the video game equivalent of the Sexy Indian Squaw costumes shitty people wear to Halloween parties.

Given all that, making this choice is a slam dunk. If you keep it, you give actual, real offense to people who are a part of your audience, just to preserve something minor and unimportant in the game; if you get rid of it, the only people you offend are the ones working themselves up into an artificial froth over how any and every localization change is "censorship." The former is a real concern for an actual; business reliant on long term customer dedication for success; the latter is an audience you're better off actively pissing off early on in the hopes that you don't have to hear about it from them every time you do your job.

Also, these statements from the article quoted in the OP are outlandishly foolish:

The former reads like something someone who doesn't actually understand what people are complaining about in these situations trying to imagine how being offended works, and the second one is a bullshit excuse given disingenuously by people who never wanted to include minority characters in the first place.

Just wanted to say this post reflects everything I feel about this subject. It's bad when it happens on Halloween and just as bad if it happens in a video game. Well said.

 

[Professor Beef]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI

Spoiler

Unless you're saying he survives that encounter, but he looked pretty dead. I should note I didn't play Brotherhood or Revelations. You at minimum beat the absolute shit out of him, seemingly with intent of killing him.

Spoiler

He dies in the following game for sure, not at your hands IIRC.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Nah, the nineties wouldn't have had a problem with the costume.

One of these days an RPG is gonna make a cool Ranchero job class with Mexican sombreros and stuff and they are gonna remove it for the Western release and I'm gonna be very very sad.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

Include a stereotypical Native American class in your game? THAT'S RACIST

Remove stereotypical Native American class from your game? THAT'S RACIST

Hilarious at it is, some people really think such costumes represent the native americans.

 

[Johndoey]

The Horizon costume is interesting because her outfit specifically doesn't, to my knowledge, pull too heavily on any actual native american design motifs (of course step in and correct me if I'm wrong). Some of the other characters in that game seem to, as has been pointed out, but her design mostly just looks like what you would get if you had some colorful highlights added to skins and furs, but like, none of the patterns or color choice are specifically evocative (in the way something like, say, this would be http://st.depositphotos.com/1746419...-textile-pattern-in-native-american-style.jpg).
Whereas in the image directly above this post you have both the headdress motif and the heavy use of the...tassles (is that the right word there?) both of which are very strongly associated with traditional garb.

Exactly the Horizon outfit is closer to generic "advanced" caveman/ hunter-gather stuff it of course has inspiration from Native American attire but yeah it doesn't invoke it like the Bravely Second costume.

 

[- J - D -]

Uh yeah screw this

They even gave her the anime girl fang! They just can't help themselves.

 

[EvoTech]

This kinda sucks, I think the Native class looks much better than the cowboy one.

 

[BeesEight]

The Horizon costume is interesting because her outfit specifically doesn't, to my knowledge, pull too heavily on any actual native american design motifs (of course step in and correct me if I'm wrong). Some of the other characters in that game seem to, as has been pointed out, but her design mostly just looks like what you would get if you had some colorful highlights added to skins and furs, but like, none of the patterns or color choice are specifically evocative (in the way something like, say, this would be http://st.depositphotos.com/1746419...-textile-pattern-in-native-american-style.jpg).
Whereas in the image directly above this post you have both the headdress motif and the heavy use of the...tassles (is that the right word there?) both of which are very strongly associated with traditional garb.

The fringe on buckskin is a functional addition so the clothing sheds rain. It's found on frontier clothing in general that uses deer hide.

 

[Nanashrew]

Issue in this thread of some feeling that native americans are off-limits is off base. They're not, they would like representation, but much of media tends to often go the stereotypes routes and be culturally offensive.

 

[Faustek]

Well, I mean, they're always drawing lines in terms of deciding who they will and won't offend. It's a fantasy game with demons in it, so they're going to offend any Christian who - for example - finds Halloween or Harry Potter to be evil and horrible.

In order to answer your question, I tried to make educated guesses as to why they chose these lines for this release, and I would say it's because they don't want to offend a group of people who are a marginalized minority, but have a widespread national effort in the US to get them better representation.

As they went through the costumes, they presumably decided they wanted this to still be a sexy outfit, went about looking at what would have to change to make it less offensive, and decided to just toss the idea of having it be a Native American outfit.


Sure. And I mean, they left her in the general outfit. They just updated the hat and removed the war paint because they decided blending the look was not one that'd go over well culturally.

They could even go about adding in a specific stripper class if they wanted, but most Japanese games aren't going to do that given they're rated for teens and they're likely going to have huge issues with their target audience and having male stripper in Japan.

Not trying to be obtuse but I kinda feel like I'm coming of that way I see the problems you are painting and I do agree to certain extent. I just latched on to the sentence "looking like a stripper".

And off topic: Hell yes to that idea. Male strippers in a game. I want it to be based on Murata-sans and Nobita-sans(not doraemon) art. Set in the Universe where Dazzler is all kinds of rad and the men all range from Magic Mike Tatum to Chubby Tatum.

Ps. Seeing how much host clubs can make it's to bad they can't get that market to buy games in respectable quantities. Perhaps they haven't tried to capture the female dating game scene hard enough? ^^

Horizon has both face paints and headdresses insipired by Native American culture:

It's not like it could be from Africa either, nor Australia nor any other place prior to the European expansion

Oh and about Horizon, I see as much Viking, African as Native American in there as well. It's like a hotpot of good visual design.

Others with different experiences will probably see something else.

 

[Fantastapotamus]

I guess this is mildly annoying for some people? Don't really see the point of it, but whatever.

 

[meltingparappa]

One of these days an RPG is gonna make a cool Ranchero job class with Mexican sombreros and stuff and they are gonna remove it for the Western release and I'm gonna be very very sad.

It makes me wonder what a colorful RPG Akihiko Yoshida take on this would look like.

 

[Some Nobody]

I don't understand the problem. Take it out before people start whining. Good that they're being pre-emptive about it. Who's actually going to miss this class? Nobody, that's who.

 

[Faustek]

I guess this is mildly annoying for some people? Don't really see the point of it, but whatever.

If you have time try reading the link <was it Nirolak?> charlequin posted.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Is it really so hard to understand why Horizon works and this doesn't?

Horizon, in context, is about a world that has reverted back to tribe lifestyle.
The Tomahawk class, in context, is just a class. It's basically saying "this is the Native American class". Cowboy was a profession.

Seriously, guys, we're really going to start using "I don't see why a game where you play as a native american is different from a native american stereotype class?" as justification?

 

[PdotMichael]

I don't understand the problem. Take it out before people start whining. Good that they're being pre-emptive about it. Who's actually going to miss this class? Nobody, that's who.

I think not just you would miss the class.

 

[The Technomancer]

I don't understand the problem. Take it out before people start whining. Good that they're being pre-emptive about it. Who's actually going to miss this class? Nobody, that's who.

If they were removing the class entirely even I'd protest. The class is still in, its just being reimagined visually

 

[RM8]

One of these days an RPG is gonna make a cool Ranchero job class with Mexican sombreros and stuff and they are gonna remove it for the Western release and I'm gonna be very very sad.

Sombreros don't have any particular meaning, though.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

They really do need to come up with something more imaginative than "cowboy" though, there's nothing cowboy about the job.

 

[Nirolak]

Not trying to be obtuse but I kinda feel like I'm coming of that way I see the problems you are painting and I do agree to certain extent. I just latched on to the sentence "looking like a stripper".

And off topic: Hell yes to that idea. Male strippers in a game. I want it to be based on Murata-sans and Nobita-sans(not doraemon) art. Set in the Universe where Dazzler is all kinds of rad and the men all range from Magic Mike Tatum to Chubby Tatum.

Ps. Seeing how much host clubs can make it's to bad they can't get that market to buy games in respectable quantities. Perhaps they haven't tried to capture the female dating game scene hard enough? ^^

Games starring guys in outfits meant to appeal to women are actually quite successful these days, but specifically on mobile phones.

These two make a lot of money:

Generally given how these games work, outfits where they wear decidedly less clothing are likely to also be in the game, but just not on the front page of the iOS store.

 

[EXIE]

Dear Not-Native Americans,

Supporting the censorship of an outfit's design in a Japanese videogame isn't going to make up for the wiping out of an indigenous people.

But whatever makes you feel better about yourselves. Just know that your hand wringing and self flagellation puts up the feeblest pretense of progressive thought.

Get over yourselves you bunch of self-righteous twats.

P.S. The responses to PixyJunket here are disgraceful. Where do you get off dismissing someone's opinion just because you disagree with them? Who made you the fucking authority on this matter? If anyone should be the authority here it's the person who ACTUALLY HAS Native American blood.

Stop taking offense on behalf of minorities. We don't want your second-hand pity, it's fucking embarrassing.

This is the hill that I choose to die on, Neogaf. Now politely go fuck yourselves.

 

[Faustek]

Games starring guys in outfits like this are actually quite successful these days, but specifically on mobile phones.

Mobile phones...gee like I don't have enough trouble breaking, not really copyright but what-vpning-and-paying-for-shit-outside-my-region-is-called, already not to mention I can barely make through 2 pages of shounen schlock before I get a headache from all the flipping through a lexicon Plus, mobile. If I could only have been born a millennial and not had this irrational disdain against mobile :/

EDIT: ahh yeah, kinda like Sword Guys, KanColle for women....More Fantastic Boyfriend less otome please ^^

 

[Regulus Tera]

Sombreros don't have any particular meaning, though.

Sombreros are fucking cool wey.

 

[PdotMichael]

Is it really so hard to understand why Horizon works and this doesn't?

Horizon, in context, is about a world that has reverted back to tribe lifestyle.
The Tomahawk class, in context, is just a class. It's basically saying "this is the Native American class". Cowboy was a profession.

Seriously, guys, we're really going to start using "I don't see why a game where you play as a native american is different from a native american stereotype class?" as justification?

Well, the author of the original article basically thinks the opposite.

The name tomahawk and the designs are rather a homage to native Amercians. Going the route that the game itself is offensive in whatever way needs some extra interpretation of everything.

 

[dimb]

What are you talking about? Were all hunter-gathers Native American now or something? Do you even know what your trying to say here.

The use of color and the later era garb (where Native American culture found influence from outside cultures) pretty clearly stand as the closest relation to Horizon's visual style.

 

[JimboJones]

Looked kinda cool, shame. That said the cowboy costume looks pretty rad.

 

[AtomskEater]

P.S. The responses to PixyJunket here are disgraceful. Where do you get off dismissing someone's opinion just because you disagree with them? Who made you the fucking authority on this matter? If anyone should be the authority here it's the person who ACTUALLY HAS Native American blood.

My grandmother was half Native American, where do I stand on the authority platform?
One person is not the be-all end-all of discussion, no matter what. I feel like PixyJunket was using the equivalence of the "I have a black friend" to shut down opinions that did not agree with him.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Sorry, I'm still rolling at the phrase "cowboy pandering"

 

[RM8]

Sombreros are fucking cool wey.

Luchadores > rancheros, though.

 

[MHWilliams]

Dear Not-Native Americans,

Supporting the censorship of an outfit's design in a Japanese videogame isn't going to make up for the wiping out of an indigenous people.

But whatever makes you feel better about yourselves. Just know that your hand wringing and self flagellation puts up the feeblest pretense of progressive thought.

Get over yourselves you bunch of self-righteous twats.

P.S. The responses to PixyJunket here are disgraceful. Where do you get off dismissing someone's opinion just because you disagree with them? Who made you the fucking authority on this matter? If anyone should be the authority here it's the person who ACTUALLY HAS Native American blood.

Stop taking offense on behalf of minorities. We don't want your second-hand pity, it's fucking embarrassing.

This is the hill that I choose to die on, Neogaf. Now politely go fuck yourselves.

Wow. You feel really strongly about that Bravely Default 2 costume.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Dear Not-Native Americans,

Supporting the censorship of an outfit's design in a Japanese videogame isn't going to make up for the wiping out of an indigenous people.

But whatever makes you feel better about yourselves. Just know that your hand wringing and self flagellation puts up the feeblest pretense of progressive thought.

Get over yourselves you bunch of self-righteous twats.

P.S. The responses to PixyJunket here are disgraceful. Where do you get off dismissing someone's opinion just because you disagree with them? Who made you the fucking authority on this matter? If anyone should be the authority here it's the person who ACTUALLY HAS Native American blood.

Stop taking offense on behalf of minorities. We don't want your second-hand pity, it's fucking embarrassing.

This is the hill that I choose to die on, Neogaf. Now politely go fuck yourselves.

So your opinion supersedes everybody else, right?

 

[EvoTech]

Well at least his pants look like they could stay on. xD

Tiz looks pretty badass like that.

And seriously you're complaining about realism of the outfits? Are you new to gaming?