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[Toth]

It seems the Japanese fan base is going nuts as well at the rumor. Can anyone get a feel of how they are reacting?

Also, why are people talking about a NEO bundle? Is the still-unannounced system really expected to launch at the end of November?

 

[dragonzdogma]

Goodness gracious, the fandom knows his preferred brand of coffee now. This is getting out of hand.

It's actually ebony coffee, but no knows about german coffee I guess.

 

[Ran rp]

Patients does not exist.

Pretty sure some people here could be committed

 

[Despera]

I just want this game to be out of the way already so SE can focus on finishing up Dragon Quest XI.

 

[Ray Down]

I just want this game to be out of the way already so SE can focus on finishing up Dragon Quest XI.

I really doubt XV is affecting DQ at all.

 

[chozen]

We live in a instant gratification Era these days. Patients does not exist.

Half of my life patience. Oh I can wait a little more, I'm just saying it's pretty ridiculous. To the point my friends think I'm nuts for following something this long.

Hyping it up since grade school.

 

[artsi]

I just want this game to be out of the way already so SE can focus on finishing up Dragon Quest XI.

Tabata's team is not working on it, they're not really related at all.
SE is a massive company that can work on many projects concurrently.

 

[Smooth Operator]

FF8 is the best PS1 era final fantasy. None of that lame chibi look, best cinematics, best combat system.

You have my sword.

 

[Obliterator]

Also, why are people talking about a NEO bundle? Is the still-announced system really expected to launch at the end of November?

It's gonna be even earlier imo. October

 

[TheTux]

Comparing VIII with XIII? Madness

Indeed... VIII is trash compared to XIII. Sadly this is not a VIII vs XIII thread though.

Back to the topic... should we realistically expect an announced tomorrow or should we just wait for Gamescom (which seems more reasonable if they have some kind of plan and they're sticking to it).

 

[Ran rp]

Half of my life patience. Oh I can wait a little more, I'm just saying it's pretty ridiculous. To the point my friends think I'm nuts for following something this long.

Hyping it up since grade school.

Wow. I really have been waiting half of my life for this thing to come out.

 

[AstroNut325]

81 pages????

I'm personally ok with the delay. Take all the polish time you need SE.

 

[Lulubop]

Best combat lmao. I can't

 

[Mailbox]

Wow. I really have been waiting half of my life for this thing to come out.

Now that I think about it... it has been just under half my life...
I was at the end of elementary school when this thing was announced ._.
I'm in university now...

Jesus.

 

[artsi]

81 pages????

I'm personally ok with the delay. Take all the polish time you need SE.

The thirst is real.

 

[Despera]

Wow. I really have been waiting half of my life for this thing to come out.

My friend who's a bigger FF fan than I has an 8 year old kid now. He doesn't play games as much anymore naturally, but he plans to play this one in particular with his daughter.

Stuff like this put things into perspective.

 

[Arkeband]

Best combat lmao. I can't

The only good thing about FF8's combat was responsive critical hits.

Fishing for limit breaks by tabbing through party members and needing to be at low health, monsters leveling WITH you, and the immediate brokenness of the draw system keep it from being the best of pretty much anything.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Indeed... VIII is trash compared to XIII. Sadly this is not a VIII vs XIII thread though.

You need to go see a fucking doctor, friend. I'm concerned for your health.

 

[Voror]

If they end up doing a bundle now with that release, I'm curious if it will be a special version or just the regular one, though if the former I hope it's better looking than that Xbox One I remember seeing pictures of.

But yeah, 1080/solid 30 sounds good to me. Though now I'm really curious how much the Neo is going to be, though hopefully we'll have that answer at that event in a few weeks along with a release date.

 

[butman]

Square-Enix are one of Sony's closest and biggest supporters. I'm expecting much more than that.

Then you're asking for a PS5 remaster my friend.

You need to go see a fucking doctor, friend. I'm concerned for your health.

No doctor can heal this guy.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

What are your realistic expectations if we get to play FFXV on the NEO?

1080P 60 FPS?
4K 30FPS
1080P locked 30 FPS
900p 60 FPS
1080P / dynamic 900p 60 FPS.

Or unstable 30FPS better texture versions than regular PS4?

Same game, but with dramatically better IQ.

 

[kennyamr]

Same game, but with dramatically better IQ.

this pls, current IQ is... not great.
I don't mind the same fps formula, just give me better IQ.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

What are your realistic expectations if we get to play FFXV on the NEO?

1080P 60 FPS?
4K 30FPS
1080P locked 30 FPS
900p 60 FPS
1080P / dynamic 900p 60 FPS.

Or unstable 30FPS better texture versions than regular PS4?

1080p locked 30 fps

 

[brandonh83]

You need to go see a fucking doctor, friend. I'm concerned for your health.

This is one of those "opinions can be wrong" cases

 

[YankeeDonB]

Same here. Well I don't know if I'd say it all depends on that for me -- atmosphere and soundtrack are big too -- but the events and pacing are far and away the #1 thing with me for most games I play, especially stuff like Final Fantasy.

My biggest problem with XIII is one I don't see expressed very often. When you get right down to it, there really aren't all that many actual events. Plot twists and turns are sparse for long stretches, filling cutscenes with introspective character musing far more frequently. Some of that stuff is good in a game that's trying to sell players on its cast, sure, but XIII needed a lot more to actually happen, IMO.

I'm not overly confident that XV's pacing will be great; it's my main concern. I've yet to play an open world game that's delivered half as many great narrative beats to me as more linear entries within the same series. But if it can overcome that -- or indeed, if it can at least have somewhat more than XIII - I'll be really happy.

Yes, 100% agree. Words of truth. When I think Final Fantasy I think of both epic and personal moments occurring to characters I've grown to care about.

But that's honestly my biggest problem with XII too, though it's still far less blinkered than XIII.

Also, I may just be projecting my own desires, but I feel Tabata has said multiple things over the last few years that suggest he's at least interested in delivering an event-heavy, well paced journey (VI being his favorite, progression being story gated, the emphasis on character development...).

 

[Bsigg12]

What are your realistic expectations if we get to play FFXV on the NEO?

1080P 60 FPS?
4K 30FPS
1080P locked 30 FPS
900p 60 FPS
1080P / dynamic 900p 60 FPS.

Or unstable 30FPS better texture versions than regular PS4?

1080p locked 30fps with maybe some additional AA boosts. For the first wave of Neo ready games, things late September through December, I don't expect much beyond performance enhancements like locking games at 30/60 at 1080p depending on the game. I think February will be when we start seeing the devs that actually take advantage of it, especially with Horizon coming out.

 

[Shadow Broker]

Why are we talking about FF VIII and XIII on a rumor thread about possibly delayed FFXV?

 

[Ceravic]

Got it approved to delay my time off from work if the delay is true. Bring it on, Tabata. As long as we get a better game out of it, you do you, buddy.

 

[R3birthFl4me]

Yeah this game needs better IQ, the main characters don't look very smart, specially Prompto.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Why are we talking about FF VIII and XIII on a rumor thread about possibly delayed FFXV?

XV threads tend to turn into mini-community threads until the next thread comes out. Gets off topic within a day or two.

 

[Ray Down]

Why are we talking about FF VIII and XIII on a rumor thread about possibly delayed FFXV?

We need to do something in this thread till SE releases the news.

 

[Traxtech]

FFVIII on PS4 please


EDIT : and FFIX for good measure. Ty

 

[Asd202]

Same game, but with dramatically better IQ.

You're going to be disappointed there's no time for that.

 

[brandonh83]

Why are we talking about FF VIII and XIII on a rumor thread about possibly delayed FFXV?

It's called natural progression. This occurs to allow us to dick around until there's actual information.

Next is ranking the entire series.

 

[Asd202]

I hope SE will finally adress this tomorrow.

 

[JeffZero]

Yes, 100% agree. Words of truth. When I think Final Fantasy I think of both epic and personal moments occurring to characters I've grown to care about.

But that's honestly my biggest problem with XII too, though it's still far less blinkered than XIII.

Also, I may just be projecting my own desires, but I feel Tabata has said multiple things over the last few years that suggest he's at least interested in delivering an event-heavy, well paced journey (VI being his favorite, progression being story gated, the emphasis on character development...).

Aye, it's definitely my biggest issue with XII. If the ratio of story events to sprawling gameplay section from the first quarter of the game (and much of the last tenth or so, too, I guess?) held firm all throughout the adventure, it'd be one of my absolute favorites. The script and voice performance are so top-notch relative to X (big dub issues; some script issues) and XIII (dub is OK; script is... not).

You're right about Tabata -- I do have some degree of hope that FFXV has a good amount of this stuff. I'm worried in the sense that the development must be pretty difficult (not necessarily that it's in really rough shape, just, it's obviously a huge undertaking full of visionary shifts) so it might be another XII in which there are cutscene ideas that have to get axed left and right. But even then, I'd be content with a XII level of plot turns if we at least don't have another XIII on our hands, haha.

 

[KZXcellent]

Why are we talking about FF VIII and XIII on a rumor thread about possibly delayed FFXV?

Because XV threads ALWAYS go off the rails.

 

[HeelPower]

I dont understand why this is so controversial.

If SE launches this game in a broken state it will have no future.

No matter how good the game underdeath the technical mess could be,the game will get slaughtered by critics and fans alike if its broken.

Just look at AC unity and how it tanked a multi-billion franchise.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

You're going to be disappointed there's no time for that.

When i say IQ, i just mean full 1080p (which is mandatory for Neo ports) and utilizing AA on every frame, rather than every few frames.

I dont understand why this is so controversial.

If SE launches this game in a broken state it will have no future.

No matter how good the game underdeath the technical mess could be,the game will get slaughtered by critics and fans alike if its broken.

Just look at AC unity and how it tanked a multi-billion franchise.

Its pretty obvious from the DLC thread that some Final Fantasy fans do not treat this franchise like any other. They were angry that Square Enix had the audacity to try and sell DLC in a AAA video game in 2016.

 

[Obliterator]

You're going to be disappointed there's no time for that.

There's plenty of time to add a decent AA solution

 

[brandonh83]

I too hope there's a lot of good story here. I loved XII and while these points being made are valid, it had just enough story/cutscenes to satisfy me. It also helped that by FF standards they were well written and voice acted, which for me sorta alleviates some other issues.

 

[Squire]

I dont understand why this is so controversial.

If SE launches this game in a broken state it will have no future.

No matter how good the game underdeath the technical mess could be,the game will get slaughtered by critics and fans alike if its broken.

Just look at AC unity and how it tanked a multi-billion franchise.

Ehh, the only thing Unity tanked was itself. No need to pretend Syndicate didn't sell just fine the following year. Ubi had to learn that lesson though.

 

[JeffZero]

Ehh, the only thing Unity tanked was itself. No need to pretend Syndicate didn't sell just fine the following year. Ubi had to learn that lesson though.

Syndicate's sales were a colossal dropoff from Unity.

 

[KZXcellent]

I dont understand why this is so controversial.

If SE launches this game in a broken state it will have no future.

No matter how good the game underdeath the technical mess could be,the game will get slaughtered by critics and fans alike if its broken.

Just look at AC unity and how it tanked a multi-billion franchise.

People are extra critical with anything that happens with this game because it's been 10 years, this effectively ruins the big release date reveal from this years Uncovered event, and FF Fans are fucking nuts.

This delay is in no way a bad thing for sure.

 

[Deckard Chapel]

I just went to my local Gamestop and the manager told me that this delay is definite. They have the marketing for it already and they were at a meeting where the regional director told them about the situation.

Square Enix has to announce something soon regarding this delay.

 

[Ganon Dragmire]

Another one for the collection thanks to twitter:

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Ehh, the only thing Unity tanked was itself. No need to pretend Syndicate didn't sell just fine the following year. Ubi had to learn that lesson though.

Syndicate did tank compared to previous games. Unity was really boosted by bundled with Xbox One that holiday season. Ubisoft didn't take a year off just for creative reasons. The money stopped flowing in and they needed a change.

 

[Ray Down]

Ehh, the only thing Unity tanked was itself. No need to pretend Syndicate didn't sell just fine the following year. Ubi had to learn that lesson though.

Syndicate sales were disappointing, the President of Ubisoft outright said Unity hurt it's sales.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1135583&page=1

 

[StrongBlackVine]

I just went to my local Gamestop and the manager told me that this delay is definite. They have the marketing for it already and they were at a meeting where the regional director told them about the situation.

Square Enix has to announce something soon regarding this delay.

Good. Delay it to Spring 2017 if need be. I don't want this game dragged down by technical problems.

 

[Kwansu Dudes]

People are extra critical with anything that happens with this game because it's been 10 years, this effectively ruins the big release date reveal from this years Uncovered event, and FF Fans are fucking nuts.

This delay is in no way a bad thing for sure.

I'd say a negative is that it comes out after all the AAA juggernauts and after BF/Cyber Monday in the US. Just looking at it differently.