You would turn down working with a studio that helped give you international recognition, especially if they wanted to make another game with you? This allows From to have a larger library of Souls games. This is a win/win scenario.
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RUMOR: Project Beast (From Software/Sony Japan Studio, PS4) [Port begging = ban]
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You would turn down working with a studio that helped give you international recognition, especially if they wanted to make another game with you? This allows From to have a larger library of Souls games. This is a win/win scenario.
I would imagine it runs on a new engine and development costs for next-gen are higher. So it isn't too surprising that they would team up with sony at the start.
Bigger budget, more resources, better marketing, and a smoother transition into current-gen development.
While costs for next-gen development are obviously higher, From seems to be one of those studio who still makes games on the cheap and doesn't seem concerned in the extravaganza of big-budget AAA games. Publisher funding means giving up both profits and the IP.
Plus Demon's Souls was both Sony and From together.
Let's be honest. People would hate it for being too hard.Maybe they're incorporating their other property with Shadow Tower and Demon's Souls, and this will be called:
Shadow of the Beast.
SteamyPunk
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A lot of these game companies are fighting for their lives right now. From probably looked at the deal as 3 years worth of financial stability as they make the transition to the next gen. From probably has a financial strategy with 3 tiers of games.
High Risk, High Reward-Games like Armored Core that they develop completely on their own. Everything is on From for these games so they likely mitigate the risk by not investing too much money into these games.
Medium Risk, Medium Reward-Dark Souls games, Namco helps with development costs for a piece of the profits.
Low Risk, Low Reward-Licensed games that another publisher pays them to make. Gundam games, etc. They get either no part of the profits or a small portion but only if the game recoups its costs. Only thing lost here is the time they could have spent making a game with higher rewards.
I'm guessing that Sony sweetened the pot and is giving From a portion of the profits for Project Beast as well as letting them test new gen game development for free.
High Risk, High Reward-Games like Armored Core that they develop completely on their own. Everything is on From for these games so they likely mitigate the risk by not investing too much money into these games.
Medium Risk, Medium Reward-Dark Souls games, Namco helps with development costs for a piece of the profits.
Low Risk, Low Reward-Licensed games that another publisher pays them to make. Gundam games, etc. They get either no part of the profits or a small portion but only if the game recoups its costs. Only thing lost here is the time they could have spent making a game with higher rewards.
I'm guessing that Sony sweetened the pot and is giving From a portion of the profits for Project Beast as well as letting them test new gen game development for free.
Portugeezer
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They could have made a Demons Souls game without From or previous director, but they took the best route for the game.
Obviously this means it's exclusive but I don't mind as I own a PS4.
Sony's IP and Japan Studio is involved.
licktheenvelope
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Split teams. Only part of From was working on Dark Souls 2. The director of Dark Souls 1 and Demons Souls Hidetaka Miyazaki didn't even work on Dark Souls 2, but was working on a separate project which everyone believes is this Project Beast.
Lets just say it is Project Beast.... I wanna believe!
licktheenvelope
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There are a multitude of teams down at SCEJ so it wouldn't hurt them if Miyazaki went multi-plat.
You could say that about every second party multi-game contract Sony's ever signed.
SniperHunter
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Sony would certainly want that -- let's see if From went for it.
Would be exciting to see this new IP and Dark Souls evolve side by side -- hopefully in pretty different directions but with the same fantastic design philosophy behind them.
Pound_lb003
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I think Dark Souls worked for From when it first kicked off.
They were getting recognition and better sales for games they felt pretty confident making.
I think this project is happening, because Namco couldn't afford to fund a cross-gen or next-gen Dark Souls, and by the third iteration of the Souls series, presumably the creative minds behind it are happy to expand on their creative resume. Both going next-gen and having some more creative free reign/opportunity to take risk, must appeal to everyone at From.
So it's probably the right contract at the right time. As long as there's incentive for From to partner with Sony, I am sure they will continue to do so. But it's never smart for either company to commit more than one project to one another.
Alebrije
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Ended , if the leak is true Sony's E3 will be like going to a concert of you favorite band , you know you will hear great music and the live performance will be a plus.
If Sony delivers these games on e3 is a win for all , that RPG from Guerrilla sounds interesting.
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So I haven't really been keeping up with this thread.
But it seems like everyone has come to the conclusion that this is actually legit. Everyone is confident this is real deal?
But it seems like everyone has come to the conclusion that this is actually legit. Everyone is confident this is real deal?
I don't really agree with that, long term big budget contracts create security, and they add value to the company in the event of a sale.
They're also good for the publisher, if they're confident they will be strong enough games to be able to sell well with the correct marketing.
From get security, Sony get the new hotness. Could have been attractive to both parties, but it's very difficult to know.
I'd guess having Sony foot the bill for a game they've been developing for awhile and having the PS4 ending up as being a runaway success, they're not losing a whole lot by focusing on that one platform IMO.
yukianderson
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Great post. People take away from Sony because MS made so many mistakes, but fail to see just how good of a strategy Sony had. Everyone underestimated Sony this gen.
AuthenticM
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Who's Team ICE ?
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
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Nothing about those screens looks like they were lifted from any other title I ever saw. Looks very real and if not, among the greatest fakes of all time. Plus insiders were hinting at a From/Sony joint project last year using the word "beast." Also we know Hidetaka Miyazaki has been working on something all this time.
All thoroughly convincing. And the desire to believe is so strong too.
I suppose the one stickling point from this is what we can't verify:
That it is indeed a collaboration with Sony. Perhaps the leaker added his own little twist to the story after stumbling upon this trailer without really knowing the full story behind it. But at this point it's hard to see how these screens could possibly be fake.
That it is indeed a collaboration with Sony. Perhaps the leaker added his own little twist to the story after stumbling upon this trailer without really knowing the full story behind it. But at this point it's hard to see how these screens could possibly be fake.
Nope! More like SCEJ's J.S.E.D.D.
AuthenticM
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Oh, that's right. I forgot about them.
Thinking the same thing.
Has he seen this thread?
wot
-MD-
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Yes and it makes it even more funny.
Edit: Some bonus unrelated lulz, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.
Yes and it makes it even more funny.
Edit: Some bonus unrelated lulz, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.
I can't tell if he's serious or possibly one of the better trolls out there.
-MD-
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Nah he's dead serious.
Wow HAHAHA. Guess I might be the last post. LETS START IT ALL OVER AGAIN!
Last post? Are the mods going to close this thread soon or something?
Yes and it makes it even more funny.
Edit: Some bonus unrelated lulz, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.
I don't even know who that is, or supposed to be.
-MD-
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Dunno what he meant by that, maybe 150 pages is the limit or something?
What? It's just a guy on my friends list.
My bad, I thought max was 150.... What is the max on pages by the way?
Gotcha. I thought it was supposed to be someone familiar to us gamers.
Naw, it's closer to 400 pages IIRC.
There is no max but mods lock threads at around 20,000 posts.
Didn't think there was one. The only topics I know get closed are the Official Topics for a game.
Regginator3
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Hoping the logo shares the Demon's Souls look, something like this:
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