It doesn't matter if it's a red state or a blue state. Shit's fucked up all over.
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Seeming surge of hate crimes, assaults, intimidation in wake of Trump victory
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It doesn't matter if it's a red state or a blue state. Shit's fucked up all over.
My girlfriend said the same thing, but I think it might be better to drill down a bit and look at it by county. There are parts of blue states that even minorities wouldn't wanna go (anywhere in illinois outside of chicago lmao)!~
Karsticles
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It's funny how people post macho quotes about liberty being refreshed by the blood of patriots, but when we are in a position where that might need to happen, they are cheering for the wrong side.
moltonasty
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I've been trying to stay positive these last two days, but this whole thread hurts me so much. Those tweets are too painful. How can this be 2016? I swear I never knew there was this much hate in people's hearts, at least on such a widespread scale. Fear is never the answer, but fuck is it hard to keep it cool right now...
It's not about red and blue states, but about rural and cities. If you're driving in a rural area, you're driving in Trumpland, and it doesn't really matter which state you're in. The same goes for being in a city. The division in America isn't between north and south, but city and urban. A quick look at the county based voting will show you this.
For example, bluest of blue, New York:
Having lived in the red part of New York, it isn't even that Trump's policies would have affected them more - a lot of the jobs up there are directly from NAFTA, which means that Trump's actually going to fuck those people over. Poverty isn't even the biggest factor, a lot of people there live fairly comfortably even with low wages because the cost of living is low. (I rented an apartment for $325 during my college years a few years back)
The problem is a lack of education and possibly the population density. People are so rural that they never get to talk or meet anyone different than themselves and the culture stays stagnant.
I live in Allentown. Jesus Christ.
How do you 'discipline' a teenager yelling nazi and racist slogans?
A punch in the face. The bleeding hearts may not like that but perhaps they should be careful what they wish for.
evilromero
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Exactly.
Best advice anyone can give in this thread.
GhostWriter24
Member
So glad I live/work in CA and my family lives in NJ -- two overwhelmingly blue states.
We will be fine, but can't say the same about middle/southern states. Scary shit.
We will be fine, but can't say the same about middle/southern states. Scary shit.
paolo11
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Are you in LA? Heard reports about racial discrimination in Simi Valley.
Parents of these kids must be proud. No, really...
If they live in a state that allows it, that is.
gamerMan
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For years, we have listen to so many people tell us that America has changed. That we are over racism and inequality in this country. That the color of your skin, your sex, and sexuality don't matter. How much has it really changed? Nothing has changed. The election shows that a huge chunk of people are the same and the other portion of the population is willing to accept racism and sexism in an attempt to bring back manufacturing and factories back to the United States.
What does it say about people who are willing to turn a blind eye to racism and sexism because they are angry, fearful, want to vote along party lines, or want to shake things up? Have they changed? To me it is insulting to see Paul Ryan stand in front of America and gloat that the Republican party won. Shouldn't he and the rest of America take the high road and say they will not support this man until he makes an apology to all the people he has offended.
The only thing that has changed are the laws that allow anybody to get a fair shake in this country. As sad as it maybe, Donald Trump needed to be elected to show people how little we have actually changed and far we have to go. It's going to open the door to the real America that now sits in their home whispering to each other "they" are taking our jobs, putting women in power, and destroying marriage. This is going to be ugly, but it is something that America needs to go through to take a hard look at itself.
This man put fear into people. I have always said that the day America gives into fear, into the terrorists, is the day that America is not great. We have given in. Hopefully, we come out stronger for the sake of our children.
wild wild rice
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Deplorables for Trump!
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
jesus, this is horrible :/
RPGCrazied
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Yeah. its getting scary. Much as I hate guns, or weapons. I'm going to have to get something to protect myself from these lunatics. Knife? Stun gun?
It's crazy there's nothing that can be done about this. Of course Dump himself isn't telling anyone to do these things, but it's clear his rhetoric and actions throughout his campaign has caused the net result.
In a perfect world his presidency would be null and void for inciting mass violence and even potential prosecution.
In a perfect world his presidency would be null and void for inciting mass violence and even potential prosecution.
This is not the Kentucky Part of PA. Lehigh County went for Hillary and this is a relatively affluent school.
This is really fucked up.
God I am so ashamed to be an American.
The NRA actually preferred Clinton. Crazy people don't buy as many guns when a Republican wins.
Don't be silly Hollande, the brexit scenario cannot happen in the US. They were warned.
To everyone (mostly WHITE people) reading this...
Don't stand for this.
This is most important time in decades to stand up boldly in the face of bigotry and intolerance, both online and offline.
And you bet it's going to hurt to do so. It's going to be scary.
But we owe it to others - not based on religion or race or gender or orientation - but as human beings, to stand up for others for BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS.
So reach out to someone. Don't tell me you can't find someone, because this ignorance and hatred is so wide-spread that you could hit it if you spit. You don't have to look far.
Be calm. Be smart. Be angry. Be understanding.
This hatred comes from a dark, miserable place in these people's lives - a frustration of their own life choices and their own misconceptions and their own misguided sense of superiority because that makes them feel good when nothing else will. That doesn't justify any of it, but it's important to remember the root of the problem and not just the actions and damage the problem causes.
But please remember, whoever you are, whoever reads this, that you are valuable and worth it. You are worth my time, my attention, and my action to stand alongside you in the face of hatred and intolerance.
And we can only show others lost in that hatred and bigotry that there is another way, another path. To call it when it happens, and to do everything in our power to offset it with our own good works.
Know that every good thing you do makes the world a significantly better place than any act of racist, ignorant, misogynist hatred ever will, and thank you for that.
Don't stand for this.
This is most important time in decades to stand up boldly in the face of bigotry and intolerance, both online and offline.
And you bet it's going to hurt to do so. It's going to be scary.
But we owe it to others - not based on religion or race or gender or orientation - but as human beings, to stand up for others for BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS.
So reach out to someone. Don't tell me you can't find someone, because this ignorance and hatred is so wide-spread that you could hit it if you spit. You don't have to look far.
Be calm. Be smart. Be angry. Be understanding.
This hatred comes from a dark, miserable place in these people's lives - a frustration of their own life choices and their own misconceptions and their own misguided sense of superiority because that makes them feel good when nothing else will. That doesn't justify any of it, but it's important to remember the root of the problem and not just the actions and damage the problem causes.
But please remember, whoever you are, whoever reads this, that you are valuable and worth it. You are worth my time, my attention, and my action to stand alongside you in the face of hatred and intolerance.
And we can only show others lost in that hatred and bigotry that there is another way, another path. To call it when it happens, and to do everything in our power to offset it with our own good works.
Know that every good thing you do makes the world a significantly better place than any act of racist, ignorant, misogynist hatred ever will, and thank you for that.
I don't recommend a knife. It can be a traumatizing thing to look back on if you ever did use it. I recommend a stun gun for home and pepper spray for anywhere else.
Empyrean Heaven
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This letter does absolutely nothing.
1. Most of these scumbags are learning this FROM their parents, and will probably be praised for it.
2. Sensitivity training makes absolutely no sense. Having these children work in groups is just going to lead to more problems.
This school needs to grow a pair and send these kids to detention.
RPGCrazied
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Okay. I mean, I don't have it worse than some. I feel for them. I'm white, and act pretty butch, you wouldn't know I was gay unless I told you. I should blend in.
But everyone else.
Be careful GAF.If they could not even cast a lever against Trump you think they will raise a finger or do anything?
ronaldthump
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Just fucking awful.
Seriously. America just went back to the dark ages.
Seriously. America just went back to the dark ages.
Yes.
Yes, I do believe that.
Because they'll have to. Because reality is here and its inescapable now.
And because there's never a time like the present to start a movement for change. Be upset, be angry, be sad... but the hard work is just beginning.
And I'm sure as hell going to do my part and ask everyone in earshot to do theirs.
Fuck man. Why can't we all just get along? Fuck the people doing this and fuck each and every one of you who enabled them.
And then members constantly spout nazi rhetoric, strongly imply immigrants should be shot, etc. Luckily we have a great award winning group who keeps constant tabs on the hate they spew. We also have hate speech laws.
Something I feel the US needs hardcore. Not all free speech should be free.
I'd like Swedish people to do so as well. We have our local brand of "Totally Not Neo-Nazi We Just Support Traditional Values" party.
And then members constantly spout nazi rhetoric, strongly imply immigrants should be shot, etc. Luckily we have a great award winning group who keeps constant tabs on the hate they spew. We also have hate speech laws.
Something I feel the US needs hardcore. Not all free speech should be free.
Too little.
Too late.
Ya'll had ample time to reject this, and the gop for decades. This didn't happen overnight.
CopperPuppy
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Yeah, the Trump supporter apologists were swift and preposterous, even on GAF.
"B-b-b-but liberals should have been more inclusive! They caused this by calling Trump supporters bigots!"
My head has been spinning into fucking orbit reading this type of nonsense.
-BLITZ-
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Oh wow. I didn't expect to see such things showing up in America and see how Americans who supported Trump thought this is what is all about with the new Presidency and America way of life. They got the message all wrong however Trump speeches made to send his messages in such manner. Such pure hate everywhere nowadays.
Now I wonder, after 70 years does WW2 loss of Hitler was actually a loss or a Victory prepared special on a particular future, era, time-line ?
Oh and yes, looking at SFI Marvel films, the thing with Hydra inside America hidden it does show a thin line between that and our own reality.
Now I wonder, after 70 years does WW2 loss of Hitler was actually a loss or a Victory prepared special on a particular future, era, time-line ?
Oh and yes, looking at SFI Marvel films, the thing with Hydra inside America hidden it does show a thin line between that and our own reality.
Host Samurai
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OMG. Disgusting. We need to fight back in anyway shape or form. This needs to get out there in a major way.
Empyrean Heaven
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You have my sword.
BrightLightLava
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On election night a guy guy from Canada had a beer bottle smashed on his head...in Santa Monica.
You still have to be on the lookout, even if you live in a blue state.
SamuelSupreme
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Wow..i knew those would happen.
ronaldthump
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Red Liquorice
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This is just like Brexit. You put a turd like Trump in the big chair and the dickless scum at the bottom think they've been given the greenlight to take out all their fears on everyone else.
Ziltoidia 9
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I haven't ever seen this discord in person before but if I do I for one will stand up for the oppressed.
Morrigan Stark
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Ok, this is quite crazy. I knew even "blue states" were red in rural areas, but this is on a level I actually didn't expect. Even Long Island and Staten Island are deep, deep red. Damn.It's not about red and blue states, but about rural and cities. If you're driving in a rural area, you're driving in Trumpland, and it doesn't really matter which state you're in. The same goes for being in a city. The division in America isn't between north and south, but city and urban. A quick look at the county based voting will show you this.
For example, bluest of blue, New York:
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